VN Ren'Py Abandoned Savior [v0.16c] [Purple Fellas]

[MrBenny]

Damn it....I really hate it when I use a walk through mod, and then you can't continue with a new version of the game, because the past version of the WT mod breaks the saves. Now I have to wait till an updated WT mod is released, or replay the game again from a much older save (if I can find one that works). (sigh)

 

[Fiufia]

Yes well like I said, stated as is, it does not make sense. Changing "evil route" to "evil options" make it a clearer.
"If you are on the evil route you will get good and evil options. But if you decide to go with the evil route you will not get good route scenes..."
I 100% maintain that this is contradictory as written.

Anyway
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I wonder what will happen with this point distribution.

honest question how many scenes do you have with the good route?

 

[Montanabob75]

Damn it....I really hate it when I use a walk through mod, and then you can't continue with a new version of the game, because the past version of the WT mod breaks the saves. Now I have to wait till an updated WT mod is released, or replay the game again from a much older save (if I can find one that works). (sigh)

I use this a lot 0x52 for my mods because I don't like to wait for the WT mod to be released.

https://f95zone.to/threads/universal-renpy-mod-1-10-mod-any-renpy-game-yourself.48025/#post-3229359

I have a save with 0x52 and one with mods on each game I play.

 

[egy man]

I downloaded the full game without any mod, but I used the old save, but the game does not progress from 0.11b

 

[micmitja]

I downloaded the full game without any mod, but I used the old save, but the game does not progress from 0.11b

ofc it doesnt, you played beta and now is out beta, anything that was added to it was in between end of 010 and 11, so if you want to see anything that was added to it replay 011 content or wait for next update 0.12 for story to continue

 

[Raziel_8]

Yes well like I said, stated as is, it does not make sense. Changing "evil route" to "evil options" make it a clearer.
"If you are on the evil route you will get good and evil options. But if you decide to go with the evil route you will not get good route scenes..."
I 100% maintain that this is contradictory as written.

Yeah that statement didn't make much sense to me either.

Best i got from that is:
Beside good/evil route u can choose what kind of relationship u want with each of the LI's...or at least until a certain point ?
''Basically, after a certain point, your relationship status with each character will be certain.''

 

[Fazed]

honest question how many scenes do you have with the good route?

I think the only time I noticed I didn't get a scene on the good path is in the training sequence with haruka and allison. On the good path you just train with them and nothing extra happens. I think pretty much every other scenario has an alteration. Oh and I guess the maeva scene in the kitchen. Idk if there are any more, though I am pretty sure thats it.

 

[Dae311]

update ?

 

[Fazed]

Hi guys can someone tell me if the incest patch work well for your? Because at the start of the game, the patch look working well. But when you go to the seven sin with Amber... the MC say... he adopted me isead of "he was my father"
Also he say that all his sister ar adopted too... Just do not understand who the incest patch do...
Can someone help me?

Thank you

The just patch adds more familial references instead of "friend" or names. you will find out why there were adopted later. It's for story reasons. Won't spoil.

 

[Fiufia]

II think the only time I noticed I didn't get a scene on the good path is in the training sequence with haruka and allison. On the good path you just train with them and nothing extra happens. I think pretty much every other scenario has an alteration. Oh and I guess the maeva scene in the kitchen and infront of her brother. Idk if there is any more.

OK thank you. I asked because of people saying that evil path has more scenes and good path has nothing.
and thank you to Montanabob75 for mentioning 0x52 I didn't remember that.
so I went to get 0x52 and check the game. surprise surprise 0x52 find 74 good route scenes and 71 devil route.
now I won't be watching all the scenes but it's pretty clear that ppl is full of BS and man Porthas nice meme but when ppl is full of BS you respond like they deserve

and with that I'm out this pointless discussion has been too long

 

[egy man]

ofc it doesnt, you played beta and now is out beta, anything that was added to it was in between end of 010 and 11, so if you want to see anything that was added to it replay 011 content or wait for next update 0.12 for story to continue

I played the game from the beginning but I didn't find anything new

 

[Fazed]

OK thank you. I asked because of people saying that evil path has more scenes and good path has nothing.
and thank you to Montanabob75 for mentioning 0x52 I didn't remember that.
so I went to get 0x52 and check the game. surprise surprise 0x52 find 74 good route scenes and 71 devil route.
now I won't be watching all the scenes but it's pretty clear that ppl is full of BS and man Porthas nice meme but when ppl is full of BS you respond like they deserve

and with that I'm out this pointless discussion has been too long

Indeed. I am inclined to agree with you. Still an imbalance but I'll admit some blow it out of proportion. Though, within context for that update specifically it was 3 or 4 scenes for evil(2 in training, 2 after the jump) vs only 2 for good(only after the jump) depending on choice. one for Allison and Haruka each. However I think if you didnt forgive allison you dont get her option so it could look like the good route only got 1 scene. I guess people latched on to that, and then between misrepresentation and exaggeration it escalated.

 

[RidiculAwsome]

Yes well like I said, stated as is, it does not make sense. Changing "evil route" to "evil options" make it a clearer.
"If you are on the evil route you will get good and evil options. But if you decide to go with the evil route you will not get good route scenes..."
I 100% maintain that this is contradictory as written.

Anyway
View attachment 1975201

I wonder what will happen with this point distribution.

Outside of this point system, some options are meant to be certain evil or good path choices. Like making Olivia believe she is your fuckbudy or forcing Haruka to have sex with you. But for some cases using your mind control powers to make someone like Vanessa have sex with you, shouldn't have a permanent effect. We didn't get a chance to build our relationship with alternative world chacarters yet so even if you play as evil, I believe there is gonna be a chance to play good route with them. Going all evil on every character and then expecting some good options doesn't really make sense either. It's really hard to find a balance between both routes so after some point they don't have any choice but to make both routes permanent in order for the story to make sense.

 

[micmitja]

I played the game from the beginning but I didn't find anything new

well i guess they just added few animations in to existing scenes , not enough to notice , myself am still waiting on scrappy , now that is out of beta is only matter of time

 

[Dripping]

I'm pretty confused about this good path / evil path stuff. Starts to sound a bit like the first two Mass Effect games with their strict seperation between Paragon and Renegade, which was the only part of those games that I didn't like. A more balanced personality with something like a 50:50 or even a 30:70 ratio between the two extremes just wasn't viable to get any decent overall outcome, you HAD to either go all Paragon or all Renegade. And if this game now requires that too, then maybe I'm done with it.

 

[Fazed]

Outside of this point system, some options are meant to be certain evil or good path choices. Like making Olivia believe she is your fuckbudy or forcing Haruka to have sex with you. But for some cases using your mind control powers to make someone like Vanessa have sex with you, shouldn't have a permanent effect. We didn't get a chance to build our relationship with alternative world chacarters yet so even if you play as evil, I believe there is gonna be a chance to play good route with them. Going all evil on every character and then expecting some good options doesn't really make sense either. It's really hard to find a balance between both routes so after some point they don't have any choice but to make both routes permanent in order for the story to make sense.

Yes, that makes sense and I would expect as much. Up until the recent update the evil options were "mind control and forget" scenes so it didnt matter. It could have continued this way. However since the scenes are moving into more physical coercion then ofc that wouldnt work anymore. Because they would remember.
My issue is that the explanation itself is poorly worded.

 

[micmitja]

I'm pretty confused about this good path / evil path stuff. Starts to sound a bit like the first two Mass Effect games with their strict seperation between Paragon and Renegade, which was the only part of those games that I didn't like. A more balanced personality with something like a 50:50 or even a 30:70 ratio between the two extremes just wasn't viable to get any decent overall outcome, you HAD to either go all Paragon or all Renegade. And if this game now requires that too, then maybe I'm done with it.

here got explained about good/evil path
https://f95zone.to/threads/savior-v0-11c-purple-fellas.40217/post-8724262
basically when you reach 25+ points on which ever you are locked on that path, up to then is up to you

 

[MrBenny]

I use this a lot 0x52 for my mods because I don't like to wait for the WT mod to be released.

https://f95zone.to/threads/universal-renpy-mod-1-10-mod-any-renpy-game-yourself.48025/#post-3229359

I have a save with 0x52 and one with mods on each game I play.

Thanks, I usually use the same tool to see what's behind the choices.

 

[ArmoredCascade]

so why is there an Incest patch if it doesn't make them family members?

 

[Fazed]

I'm pretty confused about this good path / evil path stuff. Starts to sound a bit like the first two Mass Effect games with their strict seperation between Paragon and Renegade, which was the only part of those games that I didn't like. A more balanced personality with something like a 50:50 or even a 30:70 ratio between the two extremes just wasn't viable to get any decent overall outcome, you HAD to either go all Paragon or all Renegade. And if this game now requires that too, then maybe I'm done with it.

here got explained about good/evil path
https://f95zone.to/threads/savior-v0-11c-purple-fellas.40217/post-8724262
basically when you reach 25+ points on which ever you are locked on that path, up to then is up to you

It's funny you say that about mass effect because I remember finishing all the games with both sides of the personality spectrum maxed if not almost maxed out.
As for this game...that explanation is borked. Basically you can play how you want(good/evil) but at the end of this recent update the scene you get is based on which side is higher and the game sets those points to 25 and if the lower side is less than 10 it gets set to zero. If the lower side is at least 10 then it gets set to 10. Idk how much that will come into play later though but obv the path the game takes will be decided by which stat is at 25.