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MrPerson28475

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Since this is going into steam early access, does this mean a single price and paid (DLC) updates as one would think, and if so do we know if a price has been set. I ask because it could impact his patrons if they are paying more for their tier than the game will be on steam. Unless of course there is a "premium" version for Patrons who pay more than the steam price.
 
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Since this is going into steam early access, does this mean a single price and paid (DLC) updates as one would think, and if so do we know if a price has been set. I ask because it could impact his patrons if they are paying more for their tier than the game will be on steam. Unless of course there is a "premium" version for Patrons who pay more than the steam price.
Well the thing about Patreon is that it is more of a lets burn 2-5 bucks each month not really expecting much in one side or lets burn some disposable income because I am a merciful god mentality on the other side. The people there value more the perceived involvement in the development process than an actual finished product. That's why some devs (not this one, this one is a good one) can milk their patreons with update blogs and wallpapers. Those two things are your premium content.

Steam is geared towards utilitarian minded individuals that want to pay for something finished or that is sure to get finished and don't give a shit about the extra wallpapers.

Most people at patreon won't feel they got played as long as they keep getting the update blogs and shiny wallpapers. The ones that feel crossed will either jump over to steam or abandon the project but those will be few.
 

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Since this is going into steam early access, does this mean a single price and paid (DLC) updates as one would think, and if so do we know if a price has been set. I ask because it could impact his patrons if they are paying more for their tier than the game will be on steam. Unless of course there is a "premium" version for Patrons who pay more than the steam price.
Well the thing about Patreon is that it is more of a lets burn 2-5 bucks each month not really expecting much in one side or lets burn some disposable income because I am a merciful god mentality on the other side. The people there value more the perceived involvement in the development process than an actual finished product. That's why some devs (not this one, this one is a good one) can milk their patreons with update blogs and wallpapers. Those two things are your premium content.

Steam is geared towards utilitarian minded individuals that want to pay for something finished or that is sure to get finished and don't give a shit about the extra wallpapers.

Most people at patreon won't feel they got played as long as they keep getting the update blogs and shiny wallpapers. The ones that feel crossed will either jump over to steam or abandon the project but those will be few.
This is the second game I'll be putting in Early Access, Picture Perfect being the first. A lot of my patrons had no problem leaving reviews for the first game when I asked because they are getting monthly updates while Steam pays once for the older version, which is .10. Steam does not get monthly updates and will get updated again a year from now when the game is done.

Patrons who want to support development and play the game in real time as it is developed can continue to support that way.
 

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Unless of course there is a "premium" version for Patrons who pay more than the steam price.
Devs who have Patreon and Steam releases all do it a little differently. Love of Magic, and Love & Sex Second Base, basically update Steam and Patreon at the same time with their beta branch. Being a DIK, updates every 4 episodes on Steam, and calls it a season. City of Broken Dreamers updates Steam every main chapter. But really Patrons are supporting the Dev and not just the game, so usually pay for the game many times over as that is how Patreon is set up. Steam and Patreon are just different animals, so you can't really compare prices between them. ;)
 

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This is the second game I'll be putting in Early Access, Picture Perfect being the first. A lot of my patrons had no problem leaving reviews for the first game when I asked because they are getting monthly updates while Steam pays once for the older version, which is .10. Steam does not get monthly updates and will get updated again a year from now when the game is done.

Patrons who want to support development and play the game in real time as it is developed can continue to support that way.
Devs who have Patreon and Steam releases all do it a little differently. Love of Magic, and Love & Sex Second Base, basically update Steam and Patreon at the same time with their beta branch. Being a DIK, updates every 4 episodes on Steam, and calls it a season. City of Broken Dreamers updates Steam every main chapter. But really Patrons are supporting the Dev and not just the game, so usually pay for the game many times over as that is how Patreon is set up. Steam and Patreon are just different animals, so you can't really compare prices between them. ;)
Thanks for the clarification, enjoying Secret Summer and thoroughly enjoyed Picture Perfect, Still considering Sun Breed.
 

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Played the remastered version from scratch. Smooth play. Oddly, I hadn't remembered how long it took the MC to get some serious action. But playing uninterrupted by waits between updates it wasn't a problem. Having John be a Yakuza really stretches suspension of disbelief well beyond the breaking point. Especially because of his coincidental appearance in Japan. Of course he provided the jet to the MC so maybe not a coincidence at all? It's becoming pretty clear that Irene, much as I love her, is rapidly becoming a problem. If she's truly pregnant without prior agreement with the MC, that's well over the line. Hell the line may as well not exist.

I like the MC's power play. Use whatever leverage you have to get as much as you can. He doesn't actually need much of the total pie to protect those for whom he cares, and John, assuming the MC's assessment is correct, has a lot more to lose.

I've said earlier that only Superwriter can assess the value of a complete remaster at this time. I liked both the original and this version, so I'll leave it up to his judgement, and wait with profound impatience for the next update.

Love this game!
 

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Played the remastered version from scratch. Smooth play. Oddly, I hadn't remembered how long it took the MC to get some serious action. But playing uninterrupted by waits between updates it wasn't a problem. Having John be a Yakuza really stretches suspension of disbelief well beyond the breaking point. Especially because of his coincidental appearance in Japan. Of course he provided the jet to the MC so maybe not a coincidence at all? It's becoming pretty clear that Irene, much as I love her, is rapidly becoming a problem. If she's truly pregnant without prior agreement with the MC, that's well over the line. Hell the line may as well not exist.

I like the MC's power play. Use whatever leverage you have to get as much as you can. He doesn't actually need much of the total pie to protect those for whom he cares, and John, assuming the MC's assessment is correct, has a lot more to lose.

I've said earlier that only Superwriter can assess the value of a complete remaster at this time. I liked both the original and this version, so I'll leave it up to his judgement, and wait with profound impatience for the next update.

Love this game!
Thank you for the feedback. Of course I think the remaster is better because I've learned a lot in the past year, and I'm applying those skills now. I would hope everyone sees an improvement quality of renders or that means I haven't gotten better in the last year I have been working hard to learn lol.

As for Irene, I don't quite understand why you are saying she might have crossed the line by getting pregnant. As far as she knew, she couldn't have children. She's been trying for a long time and doctors have told her it's impossible, which she tells the MC the first time you sleep with her without protection.

The pregnancy is as much as a shock to her as it is to MC, and we will see that conversation in the near future, so we get a bit more detail. Thanks again for the feedback
 

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As for Irene, I don't quite understand why you are saying she might have crossed the line by getting pregnant. As far as she knew, she couldn't have children. She's been trying for a long time and doctors have told her it's impossible, which she tells the MC the first time you sleep with her without protection.

The pregnancy is as much as a shock to her as it is to MC, and we will see that conversation in the near future, so we get a bit more detail. Thanks again for the feedback
Forgive my inherent mistrust. Since she gave me no choice but to cum inside her , I was allowing for her to have lied about her medical condition. Good to know that's not the case.
 
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Thank you for the feedback. Of course I think the remaster is better because I've learned a lot in the past year, and I'm applying those skills now. I would hope everyone sees an improvement quality of renders or that means I haven't gotten better in the last year I have been working hard to learn lol.

As for Irene, I don't quite understand why you are saying she might have crossed the line by getting pregnant. As far as she knew, she couldn't have children. She's been trying for a long time and doctors have told her it's impossible, which she tells the MC the first time you sleep with her without protection.

The pregnancy is as much as a shock to her as it is to MC, and we will see that conversation in the near future, so we get a bit more detail. Thanks again for the feedback
Irene never tricked anyone

and you can tell by the MC reaction he always wanted a baby with Irene

the only criticism I have is that we never got to see Irene face when she found out she was pregnant


I would have loved to see her reaction
in fact I wish the MC was there to

it's always a beautiful scene when couples find out together. They're having a baby

instead of in the middle of an argument in dat assholes office

well it's not criticism it's more of a tiny little nitpick
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