- Feb 25, 2020
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These aren't supposed to be definitive endings more like end season cliffhangers for tv shows these stories are not over yet.
Did you play my epilogue? That's basically what I did lol. All the storylines are in a new place one year later. You and Coral working for the IM devs, you have a child who Irene now, etc. The next installment would have these elements.
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- Oct 31, 2017
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Here's the thing about feedback that most likely many people don't realize, feedbacks aren't created equal, they come in all sizes and types, and people hardly realize that there are useful and useless feedbacks too.
"This game sucks" is a negative feedback, obviously useless feedbacks on its own, having negative impact on the principal like depression, frustration.
"The game is awesome" is a positive feedback, not so much useful feedback on its own, not completely useless feedback because at least it gives positive reinforcement to the principal for example boost morale, motivation.
Negative feedbacks either trigger no response or negative responses (like stfu, facepalm etc.), vice versa positive feedbacks either trigger no response or positive responses (like getting a like, heart, etc.).
The developer loves to and will benefit a lot by reading about those constructive feedbacks ergo useful feedbacks. Even those negative feedbacks if supported with relevant information like (but not limited to) "what do you hate about it?", "what don't work?", "what worked poorly/terribly?". "what's wrong?", "why x is like this or that?", "this should be like that" etc. will be highly appreciated.
Whereas, those positive feedbacks if supported with relevant information like (but not limited to) "what do you like about it?". "what work well?". "what can be improved further?", "what you want?", "what you want more?" etc. will be highly favorable and appreciated.
While feedback is good it is also a double edge sword, it is beneficial to the developer but not necessarily beneficial to the players because even if they have provided ample useful feedbacks, that does not mean or translate into them being implemented or acted upon by the developer, which kind of make them feel "what is the point of giving feedbacks in the first place?". I guess it is what it is, it has its upside and it has its downside. If everyone give their best effort, naturally there will be an equivalent best outcome.
Unfortunately, players will always be players, some are outstanding member of the community and some are deplorable, some feels they are entitled to everything, some assume everyone can read minds and understand what they meant by just a word, and so forth. Just can't expect the best possible useful feedbacks all time. Vice versa, the developer is also just a single guy with limited resources and constraints which will ultimately hinder him from reciprocating all those feedbacks. Hostilities on either sides brings nothing but discord (not the platform or app btw).
One thing that I still don't understand is when some people (in general) post a single/simple that they don't like something (or some game for example) and that's pretty much about it. I mean why? Why do we need to know if you don't like it? For example, if you don't like pop music or Justin Bieber, why do you need to tell that to everyone? Why should everyone knows about that? It's not like we are close friends or anything, we are strangers. What even weirder is why go and post that to the fans of what you don't like (for example to the fans of pop music or Justin Bieber)?. There are people that even post (to the fans) they don't like a non-incest game because the game doesn't contains incest, in the non-incest game thread, how absurd is that.
Personally, I would like the developer to stay away from engaging intense debacle on this thread and instead focus his time and energy towards productive work. However, since he is willing to take his time engaging with the fanbase, I hope he will have the strength and willpower not to be distracted by minor dissidences.
How about that, I apologize for the lengthy post for someone who had not followed any discussion on this thread at all. Also, the thing about feedback is not limited to just this game but it is more generalized and can be applied to other things as well. I just got here wanting to try this game and haven't found the answer to my enquiry yet. I guess I just have to try and find out, download the latest release & epilogue, and then play.
P/S: Is there a default name for the MC? Will there be funny dialogues if MC name is John or John Holmes?
"This game sucks" is a negative feedback, obviously useless feedbacks on its own, having negative impact on the principal like depression, frustration.
"The game is awesome" is a positive feedback, not so much useful feedback on its own, not completely useless feedback because at least it gives positive reinforcement to the principal for example boost morale, motivation.
Negative feedbacks either trigger no response or negative responses (like stfu, facepalm etc.), vice versa positive feedbacks either trigger no response or positive responses (like getting a like, heart, etc.).
The developer loves to and will benefit a lot by reading about those constructive feedbacks ergo useful feedbacks. Even those negative feedbacks if supported with relevant information like (but not limited to) "what do you hate about it?", "what don't work?", "what worked poorly/terribly?". "what's wrong?", "why x is like this or that?", "this should be like that" etc. will be highly appreciated.
Whereas, those positive feedbacks if supported with relevant information like (but not limited to) "what do you like about it?". "what work well?". "what can be improved further?", "what you want?", "what you want more?" etc. will be highly favorable and appreciated.
While feedback is good it is also a double edge sword, it is beneficial to the developer but not necessarily beneficial to the players because even if they have provided ample useful feedbacks, that does not mean or translate into them being implemented or acted upon by the developer, which kind of make them feel "what is the point of giving feedbacks in the first place?". I guess it is what it is, it has its upside and it has its downside. If everyone give their best effort, naturally there will be an equivalent best outcome.
Unfortunately, players will always be players, some are outstanding member of the community and some are deplorable, some feels they are entitled to everything, some assume everyone can read minds and understand what they meant by just a word, and so forth. Just can't expect the best possible useful feedbacks all time. Vice versa, the developer is also just a single guy with limited resources and constraints which will ultimately hinder him from reciprocating all those feedbacks. Hostilities on either sides brings nothing but discord (not the platform or app btw).
One thing that I still don't understand is when some people (in general) post a single/simple that they don't like something (or some game for example) and that's pretty much about it. I mean why? Why do we need to know if you don't like it? For example, if you don't like pop music or Justin Bieber, why do you need to tell that to everyone? Why should everyone knows about that? It's not like we are close friends or anything, we are strangers. What even weirder is why go and post that to the fans of what you don't like (for example to the fans of pop music or Justin Bieber)?. There are people that even post (to the fans) they don't like a non-incest game because the game doesn't contains incest, in the non-incest game thread, how absurd is that.
Personally, I would like the developer to stay away from engaging intense debacle on this thread and instead focus his time and energy towards productive work. However, since he is willing to take his time engaging with the fanbase, I hope he will have the strength and willpower not to be distracted by minor dissidences.
How about that, I apologize for the lengthy post for someone who had not followed any discussion on this thread at all. Also, the thing about feedback is not limited to just this game but it is more generalized and can be applied to other things as well. I just got here wanting to try this game and haven't found the answer to my enquiry yet. I guess I just have to try and find out, download the latest release & epilogue, and then play.
P/S: Is there a default name for the MC? Will there be funny dialogues if MC name is John or John Holmes?
- Feb 23, 2018
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I see what you're saying, and to an extent you do have a point.
However, if someone gives middling approval such as, "This is fine, it's pretty good, there's nothing wrong with it," etc. there's really not much to expand on. You can't really ask or expect anything more from that kind of mild praise. If someone came in and said something more like, "This game is absolutely perfect! It's the best AVN ever, and everyone should play it! It has no flaws!" then quite frankly, we should question that and ask them to expand on why they are giving it such high praise.
In the same way, is someone came in and said, "Meh, I didn't really like it, I didn't think it was anything great, I found it boring and disappointing," that's relatively mild criticism that doesn't really draw any further questions. When some says, "This game is utter trash," that's some intense hate that deserves to be explained.
It's not a perfect comparison, but I would also like to compare it to defamation. If someone publicly says, "John Smith is awesome, great, and wonderful. Woman want him and men want to be him," no one is going to take that speaker to court over it, because there's no harm done by praise. When someone says, "John Smith is a psychopath that eats babies, rapes koalas, and murdered JFK," then that speaker better have evidence to prove they have some reason to be saying that or their ass is gonna get sued, because publicly defaming people is considered bad form and is not generally accepted by society.
EDIT: Forgot a point. Part of the reason I feel this mentality should be upheld when discussing someone's work or art is that if everything is good, there's no need to change anything. If something is wrong, then there is something that needs (or at least could) be done about it. So, it's more important and useful for someone with a negative opinion to explain it than for someone with a positive opinion to explain it. It's kind of like how we learn more from failure than success, but that only works if we actually learn something from the experience.
Lol, no default name from what I can remember.
But I do think the Steam version default is AVERY. And you make a lot of good points here, definitely.
I do what to engage with you guys because the only way I can get better is by learning. And I'm definitely learning to be more clear about endings not actually being true endings, and how to treat them lol.
Honestly, I'm just thinking about calling this season 1, so I don't have to explain every time, Even though there is an ending message saying that there will be a sequel.
Anyway, thanks again for your comments.
- Aug 26, 2016
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SuperWriter First of all, congrats for completing this project ! Great f*cking Job !
A finished games are x1000 far superior than popular but unfinished or worse, abandoned games.
Now for the future, you're need to up your game in animation, Sensei.
Your writing proven, your scene by scene good, some ups and down, but overall is good.
Yet I've something to say in sex scene department, especially lacking animated sex scene.
Sex scene in porn games are the cream of the cake. If the cream tasted sour, the whole cake are fucked up.
That said, looking forward to your next project ... Sensei !
And more blonde hair and pink titties gals, please ? ... but not bimbo's , bimbo bad.
A finished games are x1000 far superior than popular but unfinished or worse, abandoned games.
Now for the future, you're need to up your game in animation, Sensei.
Your writing proven, your scene by scene good, some ups and down, but overall is good.
Yet I've something to say in sex scene department, especially lacking animated sex scene.
Sex scene in porn games are the cream of the cake. If the cream tasted sour, the whole cake are fucked up.
That said, looking forward to your next project ... Sensei !
And more blonde hair and pink titties gals, please ?
... but not bimbo's , bimbo bad.
- Oct 1, 2019
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So, finished the Epilogue, so caught up with the Dev.
Thank you so much for this game, it's been fun, and looking forward for more games.
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Thank you so much for this game, it's been fun, and looking forward for more games.
- Dec 12, 2021
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seriously.. 'your post has been edited, deleted etc' so much for free speech.. the truth must hurt when someone point out valid flaws in your work
- May 15, 2021
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I just downloaded this story game yesterday from the mega download site, and I get this when trying to run it
- Jul 10, 2017
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This is the usual false positive, called generic as it cannot be identified but just feels strange,
you get when you update your anti virus program more often than your games.
you get when you update your anti virus program more often than your games.
This is why I haven't used AV crap in 10+ years, too many false positives and other annoying shit. Have only had 1 actual virus during that whole time as well (just don't go dl'ing random porn from browsing google images/videos, duh). OS restore from a backup takes care of everything you can possibly catch, including ransomware.
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The Final Tag is for the Epilogue. The game itself is still being Developed.
- Jul 13, 2018
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So the game is finished before it finished?
- Nov 18, 2019
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Nice Work from SuperWriter here and Thank you 7767 for the upload, i play 2 out of the 4 games from this developer, and if I may say are very well written and showed, now is time to move to the other 2. Hope I can enjoy next to equally to those 2
- Feb 26, 2021
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I could be mistaken, but through the course of reading this thread, people complained about how you originally "abruptly" ended the game and then you added an epilogue to address the issue. So I was just reinforcing that idea, if I followed what's going on correctly.
I haven't played the game in a while, long before you made some edits and finished it. Hence the generic advice/feedback and nothing game-specific. I'll try it out in a bit. Have a good one.