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Megumin.

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Never said if you have something to say don't say it. I was talking about the people that are complaining about missing features for a game that hasn't even been finished. If you don't like how the games going that's fine and all, but when you start bitching about the game not having something that the devs promised ESPECIALLY when the games not even out yet just because they don't share every single thing that's being worked on, then you're just complaining for the sake of complaining. Maybe don't take a single post out of context when it's a reply to a really bad comparison...

I'm not gonna defend the devs if they don't deliver on the promises they made and will probably join in on the annoyance, but the fact that people are already getting mad about them not delivering on promises before the game is even finished is just childish and not really constructive or helpful at all.

To add onto this in case that wasn't a good enough point (especially since I'm really bad at properly explaining my points.). People have been complaining about the ALPHA of the game being an example of the game already being bad before it's released due to poor optimization and glitches. You know a test version of the game made to help devs get feedback and optimize and fix glitches.
It's not THAT bad of a comparison. It's exaggerated, yes. But his point still stand that there's no point complaining once the deed is done. The deed is the game being out on steam. Are you purposely ignoring the fact that once the game is out that it's too late to complain? When these games are done they move to the next game. Do you really think they're not gonna jump on their next project ASCOT: demon's waltz immediately?

If the devs promise that this game will have more than just guro but keeps showing JUST the guro with every updates they've shown. Then you'd be within your rights to be worried. How hard is that to understand? It's not about complaining about *missing features*. It's about people being worried about being misled. A freaking translator on this game had to reassure us that this game isn't just torture porn because the devs couldn't do it themselves on their patreon.

Also your point about people complaining about the ALPHA version being a mess. Did you not play the first game? It runs like crap. So people aren't crazy for being kinda critical about the sequel's performance. Especially with how the previous game was handled.
 
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It's not THAT bad of a comparison. It's exaggerated, yes. But his point still stand that there's no point complaining once the deed is done. The deed is the game being out on steam. Are you purposely ignoring the fact that once the game is out that it's too late to complain? When these games are done they move to the next game. Do you really think they're not gonna jump on their next project ASCOT: demon's waltz immediately after everything that was said?

If the devs promise that this game will have more than just guro but keeps showing JUST the guro with every updates and nothing else. Then you'd be within your rights to be worried. How hard is that to understand? It's not about complaining about *missing features*. It's about people being worried about being misled. A freaking random translator on this game had to go on this forum to reassure us that this game isn't just torture porn because the devs can't do it themselves.

Also your point about people complaining about the ALPHA version being a mess? Did you not play the first game? It runs like crap. So people aren't crazy for being kinda critical about it. Especially with how the previous game was handled.
Well, I'll add one more thing I guess. While the first game certainly wasn't a technical marvel, (you could feel the crust on it while playing,) it did at least run well enough that it could be enjoyed without the experience being kneecapped. For small games like these, I think that's a decent benchmark. As Inept Monkey said, it's at least better than most other action games. (It's been a bit, so I don't remember it well enough to list a bunch of specific issues. Though I seem to recall the game occasionally suffering from some slowdown when a wave first loaded in.)

But the second one runs like total crap at the moment, yadda yadda yadda. Not an issue that fixes itself, and the first game doesn't exactly inspire great confidence that they'll be doing so. Could go either way, maybe they do, hopefully they do, yadda yadda yadda. Certainly doesn't hurt to bring it up. And now I'll leave it.
 
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R.D Carpet

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jez u lot still at it? just wait till the end of the month and we'll get the news about their progress or the game itself even

But the second one runs like total crap at the moment, yadda yadda yadda. Not an issue that fixes itself, and the first game doesn't exactly inspire great confidence that they'll be doing so. Could go either way, maybe they do, hopefully they do, yadda yadda yadda. Certainly doesn't hurt to bring it up. And now I'll leave it.

It's been 6 months since the last demo they ought to un-spaghetti the code and get the graphics right so it doesnt freeze or else they cripple their sales, its either high fps or no customers in the game market



Also point about guro.

I dont want it, most folks here dont want it and all we know there are going to be panic events with gore and saws mentioned somewhere, i dont remember devs saying there wont be panic event with >H< , so just wait till the end of the month and stop complaining all we've got is the IDEA of what they want the game to look like its not finished for all we know they might even scrap the base itself completely and replace it with a map screen and click the button for event or gift the girl etc ( not saying they will dont get it out of context ).
 
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On your first argument of them showing only the guro scenes. They are currently or at least at the time of most of the complaints were working on the death scenes, so of course they're going to show off those scenes. Honestly I don't care to keep up this conversation anymore though about it because we're both set in our ways on this and there's no point in arguing on it anymore so let's agree to disagree.

Onto the first game running like shit. The only issues I ever had with the first game were due to my laptop running unreal poorly in general. The second I got an actual PC I never once had an issue so it may be pc is having some weird issue with unreal like my laptop had. Hell I can run most games at max graphics on this PC (Fuck you Cyberpunk for ruining my streak.), but can't even load the sprites properly for some games that my laptop runs just fine.
 
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BraveOrakio

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But his point still stand that there's no point complaining once the deed is done. The deed is the game being out on steam. Are you purposely ignoring the fact that once the game is out that it's too late to complain? When these games are done they move to the next game.
What you don't know is that the japanese version on dlsite had several updates. The culmination of those is the steam version. Steam version still had a lot of jank in it admittedly but they did have support for SoD1 after its release none the less.

Would you happen to know if they have a planned release date soon? Or if you have an idea of the planned release date, that would be good too.
 

BLego

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What you don't know is that the japanese version on dlsite had several updates. The culmination of those is the steam version. Steam version still had a lot of jank in it admittedly but they did have support for SoD1 after its release none the less.
So you just admitted that for English speakers, it's better to complain now since after a Steam release the number of updates will drop. Also what were the size of these updates pre Steam vs post Steam? I'm sure it will be kinda like Megumin said, a vast majority of the team will move on to the project. A team of bug fixers will not be able to add features that are straight up missing to the game.
 
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What you don't know is that the japanese version on dlsite had several updates. The culmination of those is the steam version. Steam version still had a lot of jank in it admittedly but they did have support for SoD1 after its release none the less.


Would you happen to know if they have a planned release date soon? Or if you have an idea of the planned release date, that would be good too.
Ah I couldnt tell ya man, there are only two things I know about the release:

1. They sent some sort of ROM-beta to Steam for review, so Steam has to test/examine it. Teamkrama stated that the earliest Steam will get back to them is like beginning of April.

2. The game has about 4000 lines, of those it looks like around 2500 are rough translated, and of those 300ish have been proofread by me and one other dude.

heh I hope they dont mind me discussing this stuff, but I can't imagine im revealing anything crazy.

Edit: Wow I completely misread something. I thought there was only a few thousand lines but it looks like there could be around 50,000 so yeah the translation and proofreading might take a minute...
 
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BraveOrakio

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Ah I couldnt tell ya man, there are only two things I know about the release:

1. They sent some sort of ROM-beta to Steam for review, so Steam has to test/examine it. Teamkrama stated that the earliest Steam will get back to them is like beginning of April.

2. The game has about 4000 lines, of those it looks like around 2500 are rough translated, and of those 300ish have been proofread by me and one other dude.

heh I hope they dont mind me discussing this stuff, but I can't imagine im revealing anything crazy.
Ah I see, thanks! I am really excited for this one.
 
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So you just admitted that for English speakers, it's better to complain now since after a Steam release the number of updates will drop. Also what were the size of these updates pre Steam vs post Steam. I'm sure it will be kinda like Megumin said, a vast majority of the team will move on to the project. A team of bug fixers will not be able add features that are straight up missing to the game.
I mean fair but you gotta understand that posting your complaints here will do nothing, teamKrama doesn't see the posts here. You are basically screaming into a void right now
 

BLego

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I mean fair but you gotta understand that posting your complaints here will do nothing, teamKrama doesn't see the posts here. You are basically screaming into a void right now
Ok, but as FruitSmoothie said when replying to Zellcind:

In other words: A closed mouth doesn't get fed. Sure, maybe the chance of them looking here is low, but the chance of them seeing what you want if you don't say anything is zero. Another one: "You miss 100% of the shots you don't take", lol. Big difference between asking/hoping for something and demanding it too.
So the chances aren't zero, since we have at least two people that work with devs on this board. Also by your logic you're saying that people shouldn't leave any feedback (positive or negative) here, since the devs will not see it and will have no impact on development. I guess people could try emailing their contact email from their website, but I have no idea how effective that would be.
 
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I doubt it would work, since the game is at its final stage. I can understand the why tho. A sequel usually must improve upon the original, and while the game seems to run a bit sluggish on lower end computers and the shooting part feels a bit wrong.

It cannot however detract the fact that this game has gotten far better than its predecessor. New monsters, better graphics if a little uncanny, and an actual story, with honest to god character interactions.
Is it unfocused, yes. But it fixes nearly all problems the last game had. Its why i think anymore criticism is pointless, until i get to play the game and see how it can be improved further its best to let the developer work in peace and bring this game to light.
 

simonart

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jez u lot still at it? just wait till the end of the month and we'll get the news about their progress or the game itself even




It's been 6 months since the last demo they ought to un-spaghetti the code and get the graphics right so it doesnt freeze or else they cripple their sales, its either high fps or no customers in the game market



Also point about guro.

I dont want it, most folks here dont want it and all we know there are going to be panic events with gore and saws mentioned somewhere, i dont remember devs saying there wont be panic event with >H< , so just wait till the end of the month and stop complaining all we've got is the IDEA of what they want the game to look like its not finished for all we know they might even scrap the base itself completely and replace it with a map screen and click the button for event or gift the girl etc ( not saying they will dont get it out of context ).
And who are you to say that most people here don't want guro? Have you made a poll? Care to show some reliable figures? If you don't like it, go play Hello Kitty or Pokémon perhaps?
 

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I don't like Guro too.
But tastes are different.

For me, Guro isn't Hentai anymore. I mean, why would you kill and splatter your own sextoy?
It's the same like, you just throw your Gameboy against the wall. :(

But it's only my opinion.
I never understood the appeal either, but here's the way I see it. People have kinky fetishes that for whatever reason excite them more than others (I've always been a sucker for when chicks dress up in cosplay), but some fetishes irl are dangerous, illegal, or both. But if people can get them satisfied in a game, or manga, or porno or whatever and lets them live a normal life rather than ending up a child molestor or becoming a rapist, then that is 1000% worth it. Even if it is a very tiny percentage of works published to satisfy that need do the job, or only one in tens of thousands of people that consume them would have taken it out irl without having that as an outlet, fucking worth it.
 

simonart

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I don't like Guro too.
But tastes are different.

For me, Guro isn't Hentai anymore. I mean, why would you kill and splatter your own sextoy?
It's the same like, you just throw your Gameboy against the wall. :(

But it's only my opinion.
It is the same reason horror movies exist. The thrill of gruesome end waiting around every corner. But combined with zombie rape it's even more mind-blowing. Some people don't like horrors, some do. It's a matter of one's liking.
 
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