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Hmm.. I was a little surprised, but Mica is also a good choice... And the girl is positive even in the present time...
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Thank you so much... This song is so good and fits the mood of the story perfectly...
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If you don't want to see what is under the spoiler, you could say what has just happened for you and I or someone else could let you know where you are.
I would download 0.7.1 and switch to it now. (The last scene of 0.6 is one of the girls being kidnapped). If that hasn't happened, you are good, if it has, then go back to a save before it and continue from there).
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- Jul 25, 2017
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Still replaying the game + the updates im behind on. I randomly decided to look at the chapter 6 sex scene of Anna again ( the one where it's in the MC"s cabin and not the tent) I saw there was a option to spank her and looks like the sex scene was her being more submissive in nature. But when I played it the first time without the replay I did not have that option at all
So I was wondering what choices do I need to make for this. My best guess either be more of an asshole or treat her like a fuck buddy and not a romance but not sure . Also I was wondering does Anna ( solo path) have 2 paths cause seeing how that lewd scene had to variations it seems like it.
So I was wondering what choices do I need to make for this. My best guess either be more of an asshole or treat her like a fuck buddy and not a romance but not sure . Also I was wondering does Anna ( solo path) have 2 paths cause seeing how that lewd scene had to variations it seems like it.
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awesome thanks was gonna speed run to find out how to get it later tonight or tomorrow was bugging me now I can play the final chapter and be all caught up and also time to make "submissive Anna" save
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I finished my main saves. I decided to ctrl skip through the ones that remain as I wanted to see which girls will get kidnapped on those saves. The only one I had I didn't get was Fleur was wondering if anyone knows the condition to get her kidnapped.
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thanks looks like I got to redo my Elena save then no biggie i'll just redo it last after I check the final few paths I need to check out
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Captain Crystallo no idea if you this bug has been reported to you or not already. While finishing up my last few paths I came across a bug on a Micaela + Katy save I got while exploring the dialogue options and consequences before reloading. ( I made Katy into fuck buddies over a romance). Also I dont use mods either. I'm also running on 7.1 and not 7.0 which I was playing on before it got updated. The save I was playing was before chapter 7 so should of been fine from what you said about the 7.1 update. and infact im 90% sure I remade my save from Ch 1 as I decided to redo all of them before I finished chapter 6 and 7 as I decided to take notes of certain decisions because of the branching in this game.
if I pick to end things with Micaela on this render
it continues like normal for a bit but right after the pool scene with Susan regardless if I spend time with Fleur and have a lewd scene or just hang out with Susan and Fleur the game just goes to the main menu right after going home for the day after this render
Just thought id let you know I had no issues finishing my save on that path just wanted to see the break up scene with Micaela before I reloaded and picked my real choice.
if I pick to end things with Micaela on this render
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it continues like normal for a bit but right after the pool scene with Susan regardless if I spend time with Fleur and have a lewd scene or just hang out with Susan and Fleur the game just goes to the main menu right after going home for the day after this render
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Just thought id let you know I had no issues finishing my save on that path just wanted to see the break up scene with Micaela before I reloaded and picked my real choice.
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Finally finished all my paths and saves would of been 13 saves but after playing Denise path I'm not even gonna bother with Clarissa as she is way to crazy for a side girl to make a save for. Any after replaying the game this is my new ranks of the girls.
Micaela
Anna
Denise - I really like her hope she gets a ending if tho she is more of a side girl that shows up 1/2 way through
Lara / Elena ( can't decide who I like more)
Fleur
Susan
Katy
Julia
Clarissa
Honestly this is one of those games I like everyone well expect for Clarissa and maybe present day Anna. Idk I need to see more present day to decide cause I'm finding her suspicious as hell in the present. Even some things about Anna in the past are giving me some red flag vibes. Like I don't think she is involved into the kidnapping exactly. yet something is really off with her I think with them. As she says she doesn't really talk / hangout with anyone she doesn't know and the MC and Seb is an exception because of El knowing the MC. Yet if you are not on her path she is hanging out with Paul ( who is one of the kidnapers). Then on top of that as far as I know she 1 of the few that can't get kidnapped. Also I believe the MC mentions in the present she is at the epicenter of everything that happened.
With that being said im glad I decided to wait a few updates to play this and replayed this game cause man it's alot better this time around. I still wish the girlfriend was just a good friend instead that way don't have to break up with her. Also I must say I really loved Anna's Sub scenes i'm not one that really plays these games for lewds but man they were really good for me. Rarely I come a across a LI with scenes that get me going like those scenes and it's not usually the kind of lewd scenes I go for to begin with. Ive seen submissive LI in other games and not many of them make me feel anything about the lewd scene or lewd scenes in general vanilla or otherwise , so I can't wait for more of those scenes as they are far my favorite.
Hell I can't wait for the next update as well and starting to look forward to present day content and not at the same time. The past has been really fun and enjoyable that I secretly don't want to go back to the present as I know alot of the LI are going to be changed I imagine and might change my opinion / perception of them for the worst ( but that is something that needs to happen for the story to go forward.
lol I actually made a spreadsheet to keep track of decisions I think are important for said paths cause the branching is starting to go somewhere from what I can tell.
Micaela
Anna
Denise - I really like her hope she gets a ending if tho she is more of a side girl that shows up 1/2 way through
Lara / Elena ( can't decide who I like more)
Fleur
Susan
Katy
Julia
Clarissa
Honestly this is one of those games I like everyone well expect for Clarissa and maybe present day Anna. Idk I need to see more present day to decide cause I'm finding her suspicious as hell in the present. Even some things about Anna in the past are giving me some red flag vibes. Like I don't think she is involved into the kidnapping exactly. yet something is really off with her I think with them. As she says she doesn't really talk / hangout with anyone she doesn't know and the MC and Seb is an exception because of El knowing the MC. Yet if you are not on her path she is hanging out with Paul ( who is one of the kidnapers). Then on top of that as far as I know she 1 of the few that can't get kidnapped. Also I believe the MC mentions in the present she is at the epicenter of everything that happened.
With that being said im glad I decided to wait a few updates to play this and replayed this game cause man it's alot better this time around. I still wish the girlfriend was just a good friend instead that way don't have to break up with her. Also I must say I really loved Anna's Sub scenes i'm not one that really plays these games for lewds but man they were really good for me. Rarely I come a across a LI with scenes that get me going like those scenes and it's not usually the kind of lewd scenes I go for to begin with. Ive seen submissive LI in other games and not many of them make me feel anything about the lewd scene or lewd scenes in general vanilla or otherwise , so I can't wait for more of those scenes as they are far my favorite.
Hell I can't wait for the next update as well and starting to look forward to present day content and not at the same time. The past has been really fun and enjoyable that I secretly don't want to go back to the present as I know alot of the LI are going to be changed I imagine and might change my opinion / perception of them for the worst ( but that is something that needs to happen for the story to go forward.
lol I actually made a spreadsheet to keep track of decisions I think are important for said paths cause the branching is starting to go somewhere from what I can tell.
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This hasn't been reported previously, so thank you for the detailed explanation of how to replicate it. Will fix it before the next release
Thanks for sharing your thoughts on the game so far and I'm very happy you like so much of it.
I'm also glad you enjoy Anna's latest lewd scenes, as this is probably the first time someone complimented one of the sex scenes I made (which is understandable, I still have plenty of room to grow in this department).
A part of me also doesn't want to move on to present-day content, since I've grown attached to the past version of most of the girls, but the story must go on.
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This post was initially only meant for my Patreon, but I might as well share it here too.
Welcome to my open development discussion!
As we’re approaching the end of Part 1, it’s time for me to decide how I’m going to tackle a lot of the issues that have been bugging me for the last couple of months. If I want to make any notable changes to the first half of the game, it has to be now since I don’t want to return to Part 1 once it’s out (outside of the necessary bug fixes, obviously).
Throughout Seeking Closure’s existence, the main three critiques I received were:
It’s fair to assume that if you’re reading this, you’re already invested enough to stick with the game even if I keep everything as it is, but I need to consider future players as well.
When I devised my visual novel initially, making Julia the mandatory girlfriend felt like the only “right” choice for the story I wanted to tell. However, after 18 months of development, I regret this decision, particularly since I want to place as big of an emphasis on “player choice” as I can.
In my original storyboard, I wanted to add one chapter in the Present for every two spent in the Past until it catches up to the “current day”. This would allow me to give all the necessary backstory while also developing the characters introduced in the Present. Since I didn’t have any experience creating a story like this, the concept looked fine on paper.
However, I quickly realized that I’d written myself into a corner since it’s not possible to spend a lot of time in the Present timeline without other characters (or the MC) referencing past events. Nevertheless, I couldn’t freely reference the Past since you as the player haven’t experienced it yet and didn’t make the choices that will shape it. This wouldn’t have been an issue in a kinetic novel, but that’s not what I’m doing here.
Chapter 4 was already a bit messy. Even though it didn’t force you to commit to anything, you can have Fleur/Susan/Micaela show renewed interest in you (based on your choices in previous chapters), but since it’s possible to be completely done with them by the end of Part 1, their behavior can make 0 sense in retrospect depending on your decisions.
As such, I decided to stick to the Past timeline until it’s finished to avoid making that issue even bigger. This resulted in all the girls that are only included in the Present feeling forgotten and it will be an uphill battle to make the players care about them later, which is an issue since they have an important role to play in the story.
Another point of critique is the hairstyles of the girls from the past being very different in the present. Similar to most people, I prefer their past looks too, but at the same time, it would be weird if most of them kept the same hair for 5 years. On the other hand, is realism important in this case if the new hairstyle makes people like them less? I honestly don’t know and I might resolve this problem in a poll on a girl-by-girl basis.
With all of that being said, I’m currently considering several options while I gradually speed up development for Chapter 8.
As such, if you have any thoughts on the matter, or if you would like to suggest a completely different option, I’m open to hearing you out (even if it’s related to something relatively small like the hairstyle dilemma). That doesn’t mean I’m going to do what someone else tells me to, but it might help me make a decision, while I continue to work on Chapter 8 since most of it is set in stone regardless of anything discussed above.
A part of me didn’t want to write this post since I don’t want to disappoint and upset people who will provide solid arguments that I won’t listen to (since it’s impossible to satisfy everyone), but I still decided to publish it in hopes of gaining some unique insight that I’m lacking at the moment.
Welcome to my open development discussion!
As we’re approaching the end of Part 1, it’s time for me to decide how I’m going to tackle a lot of the issues that have been bugging me for the last couple of months. If I want to make any notable changes to the first half of the game, it has to be now since I don’t want to return to Part 1 once it’s out (outside of the necessary bug fixes, obviously).
Throughout Seeking Closure’s existence, the main three critiques I received were:
- I hate that Julia is the default girlfriend in the present timeline.
- Being in the present feels confusing since I, as the player, have no idea what happened in the past so I don’t know which decisions to make.
- I want to spend more time in the present to get the story going and have a reason to care about the characters introduced there.
It’s fair to assume that if you’re reading this, you’re already invested enough to stick with the game even if I keep everything as it is, but I need to consider future players as well.
When I devised my visual novel initially, making Julia the mandatory girlfriend felt like the only “right” choice for the story I wanted to tell. However, after 18 months of development, I regret this decision, particularly since I want to place as big of an emphasis on “player choice” as I can.
In my original storyboard, I wanted to add one chapter in the Present for every two spent in the Past until it catches up to the “current day”. This would allow me to give all the necessary backstory while also developing the characters introduced in the Present. Since I didn’t have any experience creating a story like this, the concept looked fine on paper.
However, I quickly realized that I’d written myself into a corner since it’s not possible to spend a lot of time in the Present timeline without other characters (or the MC) referencing past events. Nevertheless, I couldn’t freely reference the Past since you as the player haven’t experienced it yet and didn’t make the choices that will shape it. This wouldn’t have been an issue in a kinetic novel, but that’s not what I’m doing here.
Chapter 4 was already a bit messy. Even though it didn’t force you to commit to anything, you can have Fleur/Susan/Micaela show renewed interest in you (based on your choices in previous chapters), but since it’s possible to be completely done with them by the end of Part 1, their behavior can make 0 sense in retrospect depending on your decisions.
As such, I decided to stick to the Past timeline until it’s finished to avoid making that issue even bigger. This resulted in all the girls that are only included in the Present feeling forgotten and it will be an uphill battle to make the players care about them later, which is an issue since they have an important role to play in the story.
Another point of critique is the hairstyles of the girls from the past being very different in the present. Similar to most people, I prefer their past looks too, but at the same time, it would be weird if most of them kept the same hair for 5 years. On the other hand, is realism important in this case if the new hairstyle makes people like them less? I honestly don’t know and I might resolve this problem in a poll on a girl-by-girl basis.
With all of that being said, I’m currently considering several options while I gradually speed up development for Chapter 8.
- Keep everything as is. The laziest option, but one that a lot of existing fans and supporters will likely prefer since they’ve already played through all the problematic parts. However, I obviously would like to receive more supporters over time, so it’s not the optimal solution for me.
- Only make minor tweaks throughout Part 1, changing and expanding some of the dialogue to be less confusing and/or committal, while also adding more options to abandon paths that you’re no longer interested in.
- In addition to the above, rework the Julia-related content in Part 1 to make her an optional girlfriend and have a separate choice at the start of Part 2 (or in the end of Part 1) for players who will continue their old saves.
- Remove all the “Present day” scenes outside of arriving at the hotel and having the “flashback”, while keeping (and adding more) scenes of meeting Julia to build up her character without making her MC’s girlfriend by default. As such, at the start of Part 2, it’ll be up to you if Julia comes with you as your friend or love interest. Another benefit of this approach is that when you start talking to the present-day versions of all the girls, you’ll have full information on how your relationship developed and if you’re still interested in them. The downside is – it makes the story more linear, removing most of the “What happened? How did it come to this?” intrigue from the present timeline. However, since it isn’t delivered in a compelling manner already, maybe it’s not that big of a loss. If you’re a returning player, another drawback is that you’ll have to replay most of the scenes from Chapters 1 and 4 in Part 2, which will feel wonky and immersion-breaking if you continue your old save(s).
- Reframe the entire story and finish everything in the past, pretending the present timeline never existed, as the MC gets to ride into the sunset at the end of his vacation. This option completely abandons the premise of the story I wanted to tell, but I’m thinking about it for two reasons. Firstly, since there are no signs of the war ending anytime soon, I have no idea how long I’ll manage to avoid getting enlisted into the military against my will. As such, I can disappear any day without warning and you won’t get any closure for the game at all. Secondly, the current projections are that I’ll have electrical power for only about 6-8 hours out of 24 a day, starting from November, and if that happens, this will bring the development process to a near complete halt. I don’t want to choose this option, but if the consensus is “better an unplanned ending than no ending at all”, then maybe it’s the “right” thing to do.
As such, if you have any thoughts on the matter, or if you would like to suggest a completely different option, I’m open to hearing you out (even if it’s related to something relatively small like the hairstyle dilemma). That doesn’t mean I’m going to do what someone else tells me to, but it might help me make a decision, while I continue to work on Chapter 8 since most of it is set in stone regardless of anything discussed above.
A part of me didn’t want to write this post since I don’t want to disappoint and upset people who will provide solid arguments that I won’t listen to (since it’s impossible to satisfy everyone), but I still decided to publish it in hopes of gaining some unique insight that I’m lacking at the moment.
It really doesn't make sense that the player doesn't know from the start what happened in the past, as the MC certainly would unless he had amnesia or something. But, changing a game once this far in is a very bad thing.
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Honestly my 2 cents with the lack of updates in the present time I feel like the better option would be finish the story of the past and call it done and start a second game with that being entirely focused on present. For 2 reasons. 1. I think it would just make more sense at this point from narrative and game design point of view 2. Like you mentioned you are unsure if you be able to tell the story in full because of the war. But if Game 1 is the past and completed at least we get some closure knowing what happened even if the MC and girls don't get a ending. There is always the option to add endings as temporary non canon scenes just incase you never finish Game 2, so that way at least we do get some kind of closure / ending and you can go back and remove them when you do finish Game 2.
I'd still keep that one chapter with the present time just make changes like with Julia and trim the fat of what isn't essential. Because without that part of the game Anna would never seem suspicious as hell and us players would not be looking for clues in the past or red flags. Even Elena seems a tad suspicious to a lesser extent to me.
Just in the last 2 chapters I noticed at least 3 major red flags about Anna when it comes to the mystery because of the present timeline. Without that chapter I would of never noticed a thing and think everything is sunshine and rainbows for the most part. So I do think it is important for us to get a small idea / hints of something really bad is going to happen at the very least. The added hint it involves Anna gives me as a player something to look out for and try to solve what is going to happen and how she is involved before it is revealed. It also brings in a sense of doubt that she is involved , trying to make up excuses for her despite her red flags for the players that really really like her. So that little hint about Anna really does add a extra later to the story telling.
As far as hairstyle changes are concerned my personal opinion is the only ones I wish that would be changed is Micaela and Fleur. Those 2 just feel like to big of a change to how they used to act and look to me and hurts their character a bit for me even tho I loved them in the past.
Tho I do see one big negative with this idea and that would be figuring out a way to import our choices from game 1 to game 2. Probably best option would be at the start of game 2 just lay out all the choices that matter for the branching from game 1 and let the player choice when starting a new game on game 2.
Sorry if some of this is hard to understand im not the best at explanations.
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First of all - thank you far taking the time to write all of this down, very much appreciate it.
The current plan is to wrap everything happening during the MC's vacation in the past and show the immediate aftermath, setting up Part 2 (Season 2) in the process and that's more-or-less what will end up happening regardless of how much I mess around with Julia's involvement so far and other tweaks.
As for the hairstyles, I've already received several complaints about Katy's, Micaela's, Fleur's, and Susan's hair. So far, people only didn't mind Anna and Elena (who has very similar hair).
Hopefully, I'll figure out how to import player choices between multiple game entries since several VNs are doing that already.
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Honestly surprised Katy's hair had complaints in the present I thought it was an improvement overall haha