cool.mint

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In your fisrt few plays. THERE ARE NATIONS YOU SHOULDN"T FUCK WITH EARLY. I would suggest you take them as follows. HARA
ASHIKAGA
AZAI-ASAKURA or MIKO
UESUGI ( for kenshin and AI)
TRY NOT TO TAKE TENSHISM to get SEIGAN
TOKUGAWA for SENHIME

By this point you should still have some gourds left. You can go for either mouri or houjou here to get some more commanders. But DO NOT engage Takeda until you have the manpower, and Do not go to war with either of the above unless they're your only enemy
Still haven't gotten passed the zombie army.

After multiple play throughs, here's what I'm currently doing. I build the prison on round 1, I buy another ashigaru and miku unit. I take one of Ashikaga's towns when they demand money. Then Hara declares war on me. I ignore both and only fight when they attack. That way I get the relationship points and prisoners without spending action points. I piss off the ninja's to the left and the Azai-asakura above me (now I have 4 enemies). I'm using 2 units for each fight. At the most I get attacked 3 times in 1 turn.

By turn 30 I have 25 prisoners, did not spend actions points on them.

What I don't understand is, what is the difference between character LVL and stats? From what I see, the LVL is only for beating the Oda zombie guy? And the stats are for actual battles?
 

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Still haven't gotten passed the zombie army.

After multiple play throughs, here's what I'm currently doing. I build the prison on round 1, I buy another ashigaru and miku unit. I take one of Ashikaga's towns when they demand money. Then Hara declares war on me. I ignore both and only fight when they attack. That way I get the relationship points and prisoners without spending action points. I piss off the ninja's to the left and the Azai-asakura above me (now I have 4 enemies). I'm using 2 units for each fight. At the most I get attacked 3 times in 1 turn.

By turn 30 I have 25 prisoners, did not spend actions points on them.

What I don't understand is, what is the difference between character LVL and stats? From what I see, the LVL is only for beating the Oda zombie guy? And the stats are for actual battles?
pay attention to the gourds. After about Turn 10 you should get the scene where nobunaga gets sick, meaning that the gourd for ODA is broken. Certain clans also have gourds so if you conquer them, or someone else conquers them, then those gourds will break as well. After 5 gourds break, Kou gets kidnapped and the story progresses to the demon army. If you wanna win you have to accept 3 facts.

1. You can't win in 60 turns yet and won't earn any points
2. You have to choose fights carefully.
3. You need commanders with high lvl (around 40) and good stats (atleast all 6s)

Character LVL is important for Duels. That would be when commanders fight individually. There are a few nations that require you to fight a duel to win, like tokugawa or mouri and a few story events where you have to. If you lose it's an automatic game over. There are also dungeons you'll need to explore and having good commanders helps. Stats typically refer to battles, with the only other variable being troop amount, but lvl plays a part sometimes too. Kenshin for example has commander charge, which does damage based on her lvl


You want to beat Takuga, Tokugawa, Uesugi, Mouri specifically. They all have good characters with decent stats and high lvl Especially if you cure Motonari and then recruit him

If you don't go to war with houjou in time, takeda will conquer them. If you don't go to war with akeshi in time, MOuri will conquer them. This only happens in the first playthrough to push the story along but if you let this happen then you're gonna be short 3 gourds by default and stuck with only 2 places to conquer. You have to stall the story by getting rid of the clans without gourds like Hara, Tokugawa, Tanegashima, Imagawa, Miko institute and Azai-asakura. At that point you need to go to war with uesugi to get Kenshin (She's goated) and Ai. I would also suggest you declare war on houjou and akeshi before they get conquered. That way you can fight them later to get their commanders. Do not declare war on the ninjas because it won't help much and it'll short you a gourd. You can conquer tenshiism if you want but if you hold out you can get seigan later.
 
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I've always heard of this game as one of the best, if not the best hentai-Game ever, with a good Combat system, nice story and great character. But after 6 hours i don't see al that greatness.
The mc is a cunt, the gameplay is ok but nothing great and the scene are to static with a loot of text. I think most off people who played this have nostalgia gogles.
Damn, I gave this game 6 hours, most of the time I don't spend that much time even on AAA games.
 
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cool.mint

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pay attention to the gourds. After about Turn 10 you should get the scene where nobunaga gets sick, meaning that the gourd for ODA is broken. Certain clans also have gourds so if you conquer them, or someone else conquers them, then those gourds will break as well. After 5 gourds break, Kou gets kidnapped and the story progresses to the demon army. If you wanna win you have to accept 3 facts.
Can you look at my army? I'm not sure I can actually beat the zombie brothers with this army. Idk if I should just reset the game and start over for what must be like the 7th time. I think I need more Ashigaru's to really survive. I think I might be able to hold on with this crew. But I don't think I would have anything left to attack after defending.

Never mind, it was actually really easy. I only needed to survive 1 round with 5 attacks and then they only attack 1 time each round. Piece of cake! :WeSmart:

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edit: My favorite character is Leila, I got her body armor that has -100 damage. With 9 defence, she is almost untouchable. When the enemy touches her they lose health instead of her :LOL:. And my favorite character name is the mage "Rizz-na".
 
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cool.mint

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guys help! it been 20 hours 4 hard reset now i still couldn't beat the game once i suck
I can't either. I think it's because there is a lot of stuff in the game that isn't explained. So you have to "find out the hard way". And if you don't "find out" you can't actually beat the game.
 
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jjwolf272

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Can you look at my army? I'm not sure I can actually beat the zombie brothers with this army. Idk if I should just reset the game and start over for what must be like the 7th time. I think I need more Ashigaru's to really survive. I think I might be able to hold on with this crew. But I don't think I would have anything left to attack after defending.

Never mind, it was actually really easy. I only needed to survive 1 round with 5 attacks and then they only attack 1 time each round. Piece of cake! :WeSmart:

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edit: My favorite character is Leila, I got her body armor that has -100 damage. With 9 defence, she is almost untouchable. When the enemy touches her they lose health instead of her :LOL:. And my favorite character name is the mage "Rizz-na".
Army should be good enough to beat the first run after some trial and error. If kentarou's race has changed i'd recommend you drop his troops to one and use him in defense battles because he's immortal, also be sure to focus on conquering africa quickly to avoid game over
 
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Army should be good enough to beat the first run after some trial and error. If kentarou's race has changed i'd recommend you drop his troops to one and use him in defense battles because he's immortal, also be sure to focus on conquering africa quickly to avoid game over
I've actually been completely ignoring kentarou. So i think he's still just a regular dude. I got all my ignored units grouped at the bottom of the list. I thought they were too good to throw away, but I don't want to use them.

Also, where on the map is Africa?
 

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guys help! it been 20 hours 4 hard reset now i still couldn't beat the game once i suck
Hmmm, I'm at over 20 hours on my first playthrough. I think you may be trying to rush things a bit. You will not get any points on the first play, so maybe build your forces a bit before trying to push through the monster army.
 
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I've actually been completely ignoring kentarou. So i think he's still just a regular dude. I got all my ignored units grouped at the bottom of the list. I thought they were too good to throw away, but I don't want to use them.

Also, where on the map is Africa?
The far left. You want to take the one with the four territories i think its Morocco. If you can, try to take everything to the left to get rid of Madou as well. Has GIgai showed up yet?
 
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I've actually been completely ignoring kentarou. So i think he's still just a regular dude. I got all my ignored units grouped at the bottom of the list. I thought they were too good to throw away, but I don't want to use them.

Also, where on the map is Africa?
It's where the big bad invades from after you beat him the first time. He will also auto-conquer most of the unconquered territory you don't control, but after a while you will automatically conquer it back and force him into those few areas at the far west of the map, for the end-game. This is only in the first playthrough though. (y)
 
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Hmmm, I'm at over 20 hours on my first playthrough. I think you may be trying to rush things a bit. You will not get any points on the first play, so maybe build your forces a bit before trying to push through the monster army.
This isn't a bad idea but if you haven't taken the territory where tenma bridge is by a certain time then you're probably gonna lose
 
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This isn't a bad idea but if you haven't taken the territory where tenma bridge is by a certain time then you're probably gonna lose
There is a timer for that, and it's quite late in the game. Biggest bummer about first play is you miss out on well over half the available commanders as they all get eaten by the monster army. Though as long as you have Demon Kentarou and Kenshin, you should be OK, according to the wiki.
 
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cool.mint

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The far left. You want to take the one with the four territories i think its Morocco. If you can, try to take everything to the left to get rid of Madou as well. Has GIgai showed up yet?
No I have not seen a gigai. I have to fight mouri and takuga to be able to go left. They are still alive.
 

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No I have not seen a gigai. I have to fight mouri and takuga to be able to go left. They are still alive.
If it's your first play, they won't be for long. You can try and take them if you want, but they are quite hard, and they will get eaten by the monster army eventually. Then if you play good defense for a while, you will get those territories and push the monster army to the west. It's automatic as well.
Gigai will be a problem though if you don't have Demon Kentarou by then, as he will auto-kill any other commander you send against him. He will not usually show up until after the monster army has taken those territories though.
 
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Can you look at my army? I'm not sure I can actually beat the zombie brothers with this army. Idk if I should just reset the game and start over for what must be like the 7th time. I think I need more Ashigaru's to really survive. I think I might be able to hold on with this crew. But I don't think I would have anything left to attack after defending.

Never mind, it was actually really easy. I only needed to survive 1 round with 5 attacks and then they only attack 1 time each round. Piece of cake! :WeSmart:

View attachment 4474630

edit: My favorite character is Leila, I got her body armor that has -100 damage. With 9 defence, she is almost untouchable. When the enemy touches her they lose health instead of her :LOL:. And my favorite character name is the mage "Rizz-na".
If you want a really good commander that you can get relatively early, attack and conquer the miko institute. You get one of the best commanders in the entire game for beating them.
 
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cool.mint

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If you want a really good commander that you can get relatively early, attack and conquer the miko institute. You get one of the best commanders in the entire game for beating them.
Okay I will try this, thank you. How can I fight them. It only says "Prepare for next battle".
 

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Okay I will try this, thank you. How can I fight them. It only says "Prepare for next battle".
You have to wait until the prompt for "rumors" happens there. I think it's on turns that are a multiple of 3 but could be wrong. Anyway after that you have to visit twice and then declare war. As fpr the lemons, they're located in Mikan the 2 city territory of tenshiism
 

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If it's your first play, they won't be for long. You can try and take them if you want, but they are quite hard, and they will get eaten by the monster army eventually. Then if you play good defense for a while, you will get those territories and push the monster army to the west. It's automatic as well.
Gigai will be a problem though if you don't have Demon Kentarou by then, as he will auto-kill any other commander you send against him. He will not usually show up until after the monster army has taken those territories though.
What am I suppose to do with Kentarou? How does he turn into a demon?

edit: xD lmao I know im asking a lot of questions, bare with me.

Also.. what does the ashigaru training ground do? Is it actually useful?
 
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