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im pretty sure people that get convicted for that arent allow to own devices with internet access?
I've watched atleast half an episode of a crime show so i can safely say that you can get anything in prison so long as you're either connected, or willing to get your orifices stretched for big Tyrone in cellblock D.

Maybe. Probably. Don't quote me on that though.
 

jameswitcher

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I've watched atleast half an episode of a crime show so i can safely say that you can get anything in prison so long as you're either connected, or willing to get your orifices stretched for big Tyrone in cellblock D.

Maybe. Probably. Don't quote me on that though.
he is a brit-bong

the prisons in the uk are different

shouts out to Stackos, slayer of may & jim in the Dissonance discord.
 
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BudgetPro

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arent allow to own devices with internet access
so they stand over someone's shoulder and tell them what buttons to press and pay them minimum wage.

or maybe they just sell the rights to continue production to someone else and the development changes hands.
 

yoonbalol

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What I said was straight forward. The characters in the first picture are about 3 foot tall and the game revolves around grooming them. You don't need to be a f*cking detective to not be surprised by how he turned out in real life. Look at what he created, and tell me with a straight face that you're ever so surprised by it.

And so I'm not going to be acting in shock horror when yet another 'Loli virgin incest vaginal sex' developer that makes content about f*cking underaged girls and behaves like a weirdo turns out to be a real life predator. It'll be happening sooner than you think.

I hope that cleared up any ambiguity that you were struggling with.
this pandering soap box dogshit is extra hilarious with your LiL sig

anyway, what was this guy arrested for exactly? watching illegal moving images?
 
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BudgetPro

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sentences on coercion are actually pretty short in the uk
and sentences on molestation are a lot shorter than rape.
so it really depends what the convictions are.

from the independent article it seems to suggest the two most serious counts he pleaded guilty to are for
" attempting to incite a child to engage in sexual activity "

thats more in the coercion category.

but 50 total guilty pleas, and 10000+ illegal images... thats pretty serious.

a quick google search suggests:
" possession of an indecent image of a child is a maximum of five years. While possession of a prohibited image of a child is a maximum of three years. However, offenders convicted of making or distributing child pornography can face up to 10 years in prison "
and also
" The average custodial sentence for sexual offences in the UK is between 5 and 10 years "

so id expect the same probably.

having a sentence of 10 years will generally put them on parole after 5. (provided he survives)
the coercion is more serious than the possession of pornography, but "attempted" is not as highly prosecuted as actual molestation. so it may be more like a 7 year sentence and parole at 3. hard to say.

I can definitely understand why people want harsher sentences for these crimes. reading just the summary of guilty pleas on that article enrages me. the callousness toward the act that is reported in those blackmailing accusations amplify the rage significantly. its clear that it wasnt the case of some regretful sick person, but an intentional act of hostility from a place of narcissistic entitlement. the whole fake agency scheme with fake personalities as employees and whatnot is really solid evidence that this person was working with an otherwise reasonably functional brain, choosing evil. I hope they can bring to light everything they did and dont miss any victims.

as to whether or not they will be allowed to continue work on a technically legal but related product after release (or limitations on parole) I cant really find anything in particular precedent. in other fields like computer security there is some precedent for preventing released convicts from future access but that goes back to my previous post, basically there are usually work arounds / loopholes like hiring someone to be the "new dev" and just dictating the process.

tldr: obviously shitty person deserves BIG punishment and probably wont be sufficiently. impossible to say where the future of this project is long term, but certainly dead for the next few years at minimum id say, even if it does change hands at some point.

and its particularly relevant how this impacts this industry which often argues from a place of morality that these products are meant to curb real harm in the real world.
 
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yoonbalol

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Oh... it wasnt only about images... the more you read, the worse it gets.
i'm confused. it says he was arrested in 2021, although this article was just posted. was he out on bail and still updating the game or something?
 

KatoKaine

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Oh... it wasnt only about images... the more you read, the worse it gets.
:cautious:Holy shit, was just about to try the game out but wow. Did any of this make it into the game? Has he been using his own crimes for inspiration?
 

69BOI69

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i'm confused. it says he was arrested in 2021, although this article was just posted. was he out on bail and still updating the game or something?
Yeah, a lot of court systems are slow because paper work and lack of man power so a lot of the time, bail or house arrest is what happens instead of 2 years in jail.
 
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How does that even work though? does someone from Patreon check the news articles after he gets reported enough times or?
A couple of thoughts on that. I imagine that Patreon monitors for creators that lose subscribers en masse and investigate why. It could even be an automated suspension after a certain threshold. He lost like 80% of his subscribers in a week or two and that's gotta raise some flags with Patreon. Even for a relatively small account. I don't know if many people reported the page, but I know that when I unsubscribed I said the reason was because of Personas' crimes and that I couldn't continue to support someone like that. Patreon may have gone looking for information after seeing several messages like mine, or they could have just decided if enough people unsubscribe for the same reason that the accusation is probably legit.
 
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barglenarglezous

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A couple of thoughts on that. I imagine that Patreon monitors for creators that lose subscribers en masse and investigate why. It could even be an automated suspension after a certain threshold. He lost like 80% of his subscribers in a week or two and that's gotta raise some flags with Patreon. Even for a relatively small account. I don't know if many people reported the page, but I know that when I unsubscribed I said the reason was because of Personas' crimes and that I couldn't continue to support someone like that. Patreon may have gone looking for information after seeing several messages like mine, or they could have just decided if enough people unsubscribe for the same reason that the accusation is probably legit.
See, I cancelled a couple of days before all that started circulating, so the only thing I could cite was that he had gone completely silent and wasn't even talking on the Discord anymore, so I was shocked to get a refund nearly a month later.
 

Kuru

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:cautious:Holy shit, was just about to try the game out but wow. Did any of this make it into the game? Has he been using his own crimes for inspiration?
The bit with Chinaka's sister having an internet stalker doesn't really play out like he used real world experience. Or at least not ringing any bells to me. Is making think more of Uta from Lessons in Love if anything. Some sketchy stuff but really comes down to if you look at anything hard enough, going to find as bad stuff as you want. Very highly doubt any 'artist' if you want to be very generous with that word, is going to write something fked up without fked up inspiration. Whether personal experience or not.

I guess I am just going to look back at it as a game I enjoyed made by a piece of shit who did god awful things. Not going to start hating it in my head because creator was a piece of shit. I think people that never played it that had interest in it should still go for it. Unless it comes out that characters were specifically built after victims, fk it.
 

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damn, freaking shocked to to see the abandoned tag, but whats even more shocking is that the dev got arrested.. welp down the drain this game goes... GJ for the dev of this game, he will prolly drop the soap a lot of times there...
 

Fake Rabi ~

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even the game compressors doesn't want to compress this game cause of how filthy the dev is... duncan really dunc this in the can and he even dunc himself in jail maaaaaan....
 
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