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Chummmmzs

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Seems I'm missing 3 Christmas scenes, but I don't know how to get there and I can't seem to find it in the official guide either. Anyone got a clue?
 

ThaCarterV

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So, with the newer version is forced to change post-prom format to suit new stupid Patreon rules.
I think at the front page, along with newest version that release later, we should also keeping archive the v1.4 for players who want to see the original game format.
how much change?
 

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So, with the newer version is forced to change post-prom format to suit new stupid Patreon rules.
I think at the front page, along with newest version that release later, we should also keeping archive the v1.4 for players who want to see the original game format.
Then just don't download Patreon version then? That's why there is a SubscribeStar version.

how much change?
The pheromone and corruption sex scenes have been TEMPORARILY removed for the Patreon version.
 
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RabidSloth

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The pheromone and corruption sex scenes have been TEMPORARILY removed for the Patreon version.
I'm guessing so that he can replace them with Patreon-approved alternates where all the characters have to co-sign verbal consent forms and then read them aloud straight into the camera each time.

I jest, but this Patreon shit just keeps getting more ridiculous. They act like they're monitoring a children's cartoon network or something. Gotta protect the "rights" of those poor pixil people though. Otherwise someone might go out and "grape" someone because they played the game and then flew into some horny berserker-rage :confused:
 

Bob Jewl

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I'm guessing so that he can replace them with Patreon-approved alternates where all the characters have to co-sign verbal consent forms and then read them aloud straight into the camera each time.

I jest, but this Patreon shit just keeps getting more ridiculous. They act like they're monitoring a children's cartoon network or something. Gotta protect the "rights" of those poor pixil people though. Otherwise someone might go out and "grape" someone because they played the game and then flew into some horny berserker-rage :confused:
It's becoming absurd, it's already stripped away so much and only gonna get messier. The new patreon friendly Melvin content is okay but it's not as good as it was.

Llamaman and other creators should focus on building up their presence on better suited platforms rather than continuously having to modify their work. I would not be shocked if patreon banned anything adult related from their platform in the near future. Trying to adjust the content to fit current terms of service might not be worthwhile if they change them again in a month or so.
 

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It's been a while since I played the earlier builds (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but I seem to remember the dialogue being tweaked at one point. And the new dialogue is where the MC asks Melvin if he's using mind control on the girls, and Melvin says something like "Of course not! They have to want it on at least some level." etc. and I remember thinking "That was to placate Patreon, and their rules regarding consent" (Which is stupid. Because pixil people can't "consent". Because they're aren't fucking real!!!", but I digress).

So it seems like this is basically a case of Patreon doubling down and saying that that is no longer good enough. How many more times will the goal posts be moved for all of these content creators? The outrage mob seems to just get more and more addicted with every dopamine hit, so it seems to me like this just isn't sustainable in the long-term and eventually one thing or another is going to have to give.
 

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It's been a while since I played the earlier builds (so please correct me if I'm wrong), but I seem to remember the dialogue being tweaked at one point. And the new dialogue is where the MC asks Melvin if he's using mind control on the girls, and Melvin says something like "Of course not! They have to want it on at least some level." etc. and I remember thinking "That was to placate Patreon, and their rules regarding consent" (Which is stupid. Because pixil people can't "consent". Because they're aren't fucking real!!!", but I digress).

So it seems like this is basically a case of Patreon doubling down and saying that that is no longer good enough. How many more times will the goal posts be moved for all of these content creators? The outrage mob seems to just get more and more addicted with every dopamine hit, so it seems to me like this just isn't sustainable in the long-term and eventually one thing or another is going to have to give.
Melvin retains that specific dialogue, the use of mind control is permitted, except it needs to be strictly devoid of any sex. This recently developed requirement has prompted Llama to reimagine new backstories devoid of mind control in order to reintroduce those sex scene animations.
 

RabidSloth

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Melvin retains that specific dialogue, the use of mind control is permitted, except it needs to be strictly devoid of any sex. This recently developed requirement has prompted Llama to reimagine new backstories devoid of mind control in order to reintroduce those sex scene animations.
Oh for sure. The "It isn't mind control" dialogue was given right before the NTR sex so that it would be "okay". But even with it being stated in-game that it is not mind control (which, I mean, is debatable lol), I guess that still isn't enough. It's still too "grapey".... those poor, poor pixils! :cry:

Which does make me wonder if he's just going to, by necessity, have to lean more into the other direction, and make it just more straight-up NTR.
 
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Oh for sure. The "It isn't mind control" dialogue was given right before the NTR sex so that it would be "okay". But even with it being stated in-game that it is not mind control (which, I mean, is debatable lol), I guess that still isn't enough. It's still too "grapey".... those poor, poor pixils! :cry:

Which does make me wonder if he's just going to, by necessity, have to lean more into the other direction, and make it just more straight-up NTR.
I do find it disappointing how those initial scenes, which were set up so effectively, are being cast aside because patreon said so.
 
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ToxicZ

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Unfortunately it was a knee jerk reaction. I was dealing with food poisoning that whole weekend, and wasnt really up for taking on potential crisis. The intention of the first message was for people to start migrating to SS, but many didn't read it like that. So I took it down. Then made the decision to pull the potentially troublesome content, and repost the update.

The main concern was getting locked out of account before being able to make any communication.
Out of curiosity, what content did you have to cut (I assume incest and bestiality maybe more), and will it effect the original vision of the game? Will said content be added in like an SS only release or something?
 

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Out of curiosity, what content did you have to cut (I assume incest and bestiality maybe more), and will it effect the original vision of the game? Will said content be added in like an SS only release or something?
It says right above, and it's public on Patreon, but this only for the "Patreon version"...

The pheromone and corruption sex scenes have been TEMPORARILY removed for the Patreon version.
That's why there is this:
 
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Better to keep this kind of conversation to PMs. It's off topic and also patreon is known to have checked here and discord when "passing judgement" on developers.
 

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Better to keep this kind of conversation to PMs. It's off topic and also patreon is known to have checked here and discord when "passing judgement" on developers.
This is posted on Patreon in public, so it's not off-topic. It's about cut content on the Patreon version, and it even says so.
 
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