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LOL, Sorry, I lost it a bit and went on a rant. I think your doing a great job with the game, so keep it up!
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My suggestion for the store issue - just have the customer be a male or female black figure, instead of a fully-rendered person. Kind of like the background characters in "RWBY" started out, for comparison's sake. Not sure how much effort that'd take, though, so I might be overcomplicating things for you.
Also, I have no idea how to get her to start cleaning the kitchen. I'd asked early on, but even got all the way to Fuckbuddy on one playthrough before realizing that she never once went to the kitchen to clean - just sat on the couch all day.
Edit - Ah, FINALLY got to be able to give her the Maid outfit. Guess she just wasn't happy enough prior to that point.
Also, I have no idea how to get her to start cleaning the kitchen. I'd asked early on, but even got all the way to Fuckbuddy on one playthrough before realizing that she never once went to the kitchen to clean - just sat on the couch all day.
Edit - Ah, FINALLY got to be able to give her the Maid outfit. Guess she just wasn't happy enough prior to that point.
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If you ask her to clean the Apt. it will lock you out of the Fuckbuddy path, so you shouldn't see it on that path.
Not entirely - I asked her to clean the apartment, but never gave her the Maid outfit before accidentally getting the Fuckbuddy one.
Also, my penis is now diamonds from what's going on with the Pet path. Just the right mix of D/s and playfulness!
Thank you for entirely misquoting and misrepresenting what I said and what my point was. Maybe you read into it, maybe you're just looking for an argument. I have no idea. The only part of my early posts that I can think of that you may have misconstrued is when I said "I can't believe I've spent hours on this over the past couple week." - which rereading back could be taken as me commenting on the game as a whole, when in fact I was referring to the loop I was stuck in for the vag oral scene. I had spent hours grinding that scene over and over again (only to need to nap at the exact right time to trigger the scene). If you took it as me disregarding the game as whole at that time, then my apologies for not being more clear. I suppose I thought the context was clear in that paragraph - that I was disappointed in myself equally as much as the game, in that particular post. Maybe it would have read better with an "lol" on the end. Then after that first sex scene, while still cheating, I got stuck in the same loop again. That is when I used the words "I give up on this game"... not that it sucked, but rather I couldn't take being stuck in the same loop over and over even while cheating. Again, I said I had to do a specific action at a specific scene to progress the story (this was the TV one) - which I achieved by cheating every day and testing different variations, as I had to for the previous scene. So essentially, my point was that it wasn't clear what I had to do in the game even with the diary and walkthrough.
And yes, I said I didn't read the thread, because I felt I shouldn't have to. I had read the diary all through my playthrough and had just tried the walkthrough, but it didn't help. After a couple weeks of playing it on and off, I felt I had to come here to figure it out. I asked the original question, and replied back to you saying I finally figured it out by cheating (which I searched the thread for) and testing different possiblities. Later, when we began discussing, is when I started browsing the thread backwards. p.s. I said same or similar problems... not same question. I never quoted anybody, and I can't say for certain anyone got stuck in the same loop I did.
So you got defensive, when my replies were actually advice-giving for others who read the thread, by specifically stating what actions were required at what times. If you would like to go through my previous posts and ratings on this site, by all means - you could probably easily find I have little interest in lewd scenes, but rather a good story. But my questions were about triggering those scenes because I couldn't progress in the game and was stuck in a cycle.
I explained mutliple times that I tried multiple things, and had to regrind the lust points each time... only to get he same scene.
And again, I would rather you stop engaging me in this. I have no need to keep coming back to this thread to reply to your directed posts. I hope this clears everything up. Sorry if I upset you, but my opinion still stands, in my mind, as it always has.
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I just played this for the first time today and, on the topic of grindy-ness, I have to say the biggest, major problem with this game is that you repeat the same actions way too much.
The easiest exemple is with the job at the café. You have to give the right cupcake to the customer 12 times per work day. First off, that's too many, especially since it's not difficult in the slightest. He tells you exactly what he wants. And also, it's the same guy 12 times, which I understand why it's that way for now, but it makes it even worse.
Interactions with Sarah have a bit of the same problem but it's less obvious. The same interacton does exactly the same one or two things every time. And to get the stats up you have to do them a LOT. I like the idea of what's here but really doing the same interaction about 8 times in a row in a single day just feels silly and pointless.
Personally I'm not bothered by the types of interactions we have. I like the idea of sitting on the couch with her and talking or watching a movie or whatever. Normal interactions, which could lead to knowing each other better. I (and I think a significant number of other people here) don't want just gratuitous porn. If we wanted that there are sites like pornhub. We just don't want a super tedious grind of just clicking through the same activities a million times. We're not even doing anything, like there's no game here it's not like we're doinga level on Super Mario Bros. We just pick 'Flirt" or "Insult" and click through the same lines of meaningless dialogue over and over.
Ok, that was overly long and I'm sorry if that came off as me not liking the game, because I do. I think it looks great and I like the concept. Not too sure what's the deal with Sarah having a traumatic past that led her to not think about or want any sex until the beginning of the game mostly because she sure seems to get over that easily. She's cute though and going through that slave route made me feel like an asshole but it was hot.
The easiest exemple is with the job at the café. You have to give the right cupcake to the customer 12 times per work day. First off, that's too many, especially since it's not difficult in the slightest. He tells you exactly what he wants. And also, it's the same guy 12 times, which I understand why it's that way for now, but it makes it even worse.
Interactions with Sarah have a bit of the same problem but it's less obvious. The same interacton does exactly the same one or two things every time. And to get the stats up you have to do them a LOT. I like the idea of what's here but really doing the same interaction about 8 times in a row in a single day just feels silly and pointless.
Personally I'm not bothered by the types of interactions we have. I like the idea of sitting on the couch with her and talking or watching a movie or whatever. Normal interactions, which could lead to knowing each other better. I (and I think a significant number of other people here) don't want just gratuitous porn. If we wanted that there are sites like pornhub. We just don't want a super tedious grind of just clicking through the same activities a million times. We're not even doing anything, like there's no game here it's not like we're doinga level on Super Mario Bros. We just pick 'Flirt" or "Insult" and click through the same lines of meaningless dialogue over and over.
Ok, that was overly long and I'm sorry if that came off as me not liking the game, because I do. I think it looks great and I like the concept. Not too sure what's the deal with Sarah having a traumatic past that led her to not think about or want any sex until the beginning of the game mostly because she sure seems to get over that easily. She's cute though and going through that slave route made me feel like an asshole but it was hot.
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@TomberryDude All very good points and have been discussed with the developer(@Ellaraia) so expect some changes in the next release.
I've played since the OP and really like what *he's done with it so far, there have been some pretty significant changes since then and for the better imo. This release was a complete UI change, some balance work on the point system, the job mini game, added new quest with Cafe' owner, and added the diary. The game is designed to play multiple times so you can get the full backstory of Sarah. So I can see the first playthrough being "grindy" while you figure out what actions affect which stat, once you get that figured out it starts going pretty fast. I was able to "speedrun" her down the slave path in 40 some days(tip: you can watch 2 movies on movie night). As far as the job is concerned you only need to pay rent which is covered after 2 days. Other than rent the only reason to work is to buy stuff for her quests and to manipulate her stats with gifts. He will be adding more content so, as he does it will also give you more to do so it won't feel to grindy.
*Sorry, no gender on profile so I'm totally going on my personal experience here and playing the odds; at a ration of about 25:1 guy's are coders, and gals are doc writers.
I've played since the OP and really like what *he's done with it so far, there have been some pretty significant changes since then and for the better imo. This release was a complete UI change, some balance work on the point system, the job mini game, added new quest with Cafe' owner, and added the diary. The game is designed to play multiple times so you can get the full backstory of Sarah. So I can see the first playthrough being "grindy" while you figure out what actions affect which stat, once you get that figured out it starts going pretty fast. I was able to "speedrun" her down the slave path in 40 some days(tip: you can watch 2 movies on movie night). As far as the job is concerned you only need to pay rent which is covered after 2 days. Other than rent the only reason to work is to buy stuff for her quests and to manipulate her stats with gifts. He will be adding more content so, as he does it will also give you more to do so it won't feel to grindy.*Sorry, no gender on profile so I'm totally going on my personal experience here and playing the odds; at a ration of about 25:1 guy's are coders, and gals are doc writers.
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It's 100% avoidable. You don't even need to think about it. To activate the scene, you have to go and ask the headmaster specifically to have sex with Sarah to increase her grades, so simply don't do this. It's one of 3 ways to improve Sarah's grades: you can also help with her homework or bribe the headmaster. Also, It's clearly labeled with loud red text saying NTR.
I know it's not everyone's taste - including myself - but it's something I wanted to try. It's not the core of the game, just an addition some people will like. If no-one wants it, there won't be many more added, and if they do then there will be.
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@Ellaraia Sweet! Not my cup of tea as well, but I don't mind playing games where I can avoid through gameplay, as it can add a whole different dynamic and how you play. I'm sure a good spanking will get her to study:evilsmile: LOL
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This is very nice! I mean, it's mainly Sarah, she's beautiful and I'm willing to overlook some things because of her. But the rest is not bad either.
Multiple paths are fine, even though I've gotten a little lazy lately and prefer "see all in one playthrough" games, but little change doesn't hurt. And since it looks like I'll like more than one of available paths, it's good.
The game is maybe a little grindy, but it doesn't cross the annoying boundary for me. Well, some parts are close. But I guess it should get better in future when game evolves and there are more things to do. And it's still better like this than games where everyone desperately wants to fuck MC from day one.
The main obstacle I see, which IMHO prevents the game from being more popular (aside from not being much known yet), is that (and it was pointed out by other people) it's a little confusing sometimes. Reading the diary carefully definitely helps, but it may not be enough.
For example, I'm supposed to wait for Sarah when she returns from school, but it's not obvious that waiting means watching TV. I can spend days being present in apartment without anything happening. Or when I'm supposed to talk with her when she's in good mood. Good mood, that's gonna be the green happiness stats... except it isn't. Or maybe the pink lust, given what's the talk is going to be about. Still not enough. So I finally gave up and checked the source code. But that's not what most people will do, they will probably just give up.
I don't exactly want a game with zero thinking required, after all, it's a game, there should be some challenge. But somehow making it more intuitive would help.
Multiple paths are fine, even though I've gotten a little lazy lately and prefer "see all in one playthrough" games, but little change doesn't hurt. And since it looks like I'll like more than one of available paths, it's good.
The game is maybe a little grindy, but it doesn't cross the annoying boundary for me. Well, some parts are close. But I guess it should get better in future when game evolves and there are more things to do. And it's still better like this than games where everyone desperately wants to fuck MC from day one.
The main obstacle I see, which IMHO prevents the game from being more popular (aside from not being much known yet), is that (and it was pointed out by other people) it's a little confusing sometimes. Reading the diary carefully definitely helps, but it may not be enough.
For example, I'm supposed to wait for Sarah when she returns from school, but it's not obvious that waiting means watching TV. I can spend days being present in apartment without anything happening. Or when I'm supposed to talk with her when she's in good mood. Good mood, that's gonna be the green happiness stats... except it isn't. Or maybe the pink lust, given what's the talk is going to be about. Still not enough. So I finally gave up and checked the source code. But that's not what most people will do, they will probably just give up.
I don't exactly want a game with zero thinking required, after all, it's a game, there should be some challenge. But somehow making it more intuitive would help.
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One more thing, it took me half a year before I noticed this game, and it was purely by accident. It needs better visibility. So I borrowed few images and this is my attempt at a little signature advertising:
Even though it will only attract pirates here, sometimes we're happy to share our booty if we see something nice.
Even though it will only attract pirates here, sometimes we're happy to share our booty if we see something nice.
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I appreciate that. I'm thinking about making update 0.10 a re-work of sorts with new mechanics, 'promotional' images and even the long-awaited sister mod which was ready for 0.07 before Patreon did some scary things and I got rid of it.One more thing, it took me half a year before I noticed this game, and it was purely by accident. It needs better visibility. So I borrowed few images and this is my attempt at a little signature advertising:
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Even though it will only attract pirates here, sometimes we're happy to share our booty if we see something nice.
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Most people smoke or use facebook on their breaks at work, I try to refine a new progression system for ShF. There's a reason they all think I'm odd.
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You can't make sister mod, only anonymous evil hackers not affiliated with you can. Personally, even though I'm usually a fan of that, I couldn't care less about it in this game. Actually, I was kind of glad that it's just nice girl for a change, there was too many sisters in games already. But it's because I'm not primarily incest fan, I just like the forbidden / dangerous / "must not get caught" part of it, and there are not the right conditions for it here. True incest fans will have different view, but you need to be carefull. Give them sister and soon they'll demand mom, aunt, grandma, ... Hopefully it won't come to that. And you're already in dangerous waters with N-word stuff.
And if it helps you, thinking about game improvements sounds much better than smoking or using FB to me.
Personally, even though I'm usually a fan of that, I couldn't care less about it in this game. Actually, I was kind of glad that it's just nice girl for a change, there was too many sisters in games already. But it's because I'm not primarily incest fan, I just like the forbidden / dangerous / "must not get caught" part of it, and there are not the right conditions for it here. True incest fans will have different view, but you need to be carefull. Give them sister and soon they'll demand mom, aunt, grandma, ... Hopefully it won't come to that. And you're already in dangerous waters with N-word stuff.And if it helps you, thinking about game improvements sounds much better than smoking or using FB to me.
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Spoiler! Software runs on PFM(PureFuckingMagic) and "ines"(Caffeine/Nicotine):relievedface: I too am not a big fan if incest, however a romp in the hay with 2 sisters... Not only Yeah! but Hell Yeah!!! LOL
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Sure, who would say "no" to that. But too often it doesn't end there. For some reason, there's this common assumption that if MC is after sister(s), he must be also after all female relatives. And worse, everyone seems to want them to be "MILF" types, but with significantly different meaning than the acronym. Instead of "Mom I'd Like to Fuck" they are mostly "Mom I'd not touch with ten foot pole and I'd run screaming if she tried to touch me", monstrosities like in Dreams of Desire and similar. I'm grateful for every game where something like that doesn't happen.
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My view on incest is similar to yours. It's not the familial connection, it's the risk. Another aspect to it is the aspect of 'if she'll fuck her brother, surely she'd fuck me if I were there, right?', similar to how many people - primarily younger people, I believe - enjoy other fetishes like the use of food dildos or even to a more extreme degree, animal porn. If she'll have sex with that dog, surely she'd want sex with me too.You can't make sister mod, only anonymous evil hackers not affiliated with you can.
And if it helps you, thinking about game improvements sounds much better than smoking or using FB to me.
I know there are other reasons for them which apply to most people. Some people just like dog penises and if that's you, more power to you.
Side note, when I was 13, I thought pee was cool for the simple reason that it was something coming out of a vagina. I visited some really dodgy sites watching those videos.
On mods. If Patreon asks me to NTR stuff, I will. It wouldn't be too difficult to turn that into a mod. The problem with the sister mod was that it was incorporated into every block of code. I had created a variable named modSister. During dialogue, I checked to see if this was true or false, and the result dictated what dialogue was used. If true, 'you cum on your sister's face.' if false: 'you cum on Sarah's face'. I thought I could get away with this so long as I didn't give out the code to activate the variable on Patreon, but recent actions by the site have made me doubt this and believe it's not worth the risk. I took all the dialogue from the scenes out and I can create a mod with them, but it'll be an external mod and won't be integrated into the basic dialogue nor the interactions with Sarah and others, aside from the actual scenes.
The main drive for me wanting to have a sister mod is that, imo, Sarah fits the 'little sister' look so well, and that my favourite path - the pet path - also suits this. The original story and paths, which I've deviated from quite a lot due to limitations of time, also fit it very well as they were designed around it. The game's initial premise was that you and your sister had just escaped and now you are her authority figure. It's about how you use this authority and what you make her do/turn her into.
I'm rambling again. This is what happens when so few people talk when I release a version, the words get all bottled up. It doesn't help the person I speak to most doesn't speak English.
Seeing as you posted again. I completely agree. In a game like Big Brother, it was always a disappointment to me when I read a change-log to see the focus was the mother.
I feel many people are interested in the concept of incest, especially within the adult game community. In reality, the vast majority of incest cases are just two siblings experimenting, or an older family member being attracted to a younger one and using their power over them to make the relationship sexual. There are, I believe, very few people who just want to fuck everyone in their family and has actually tried. The reality is that siblings are often very close, share similar deep experiences and are naturally drawn together. I'm not speaking from experience, I don't even have a sister and I've never known someone in an incestuous relationship, even a casual one. I have researched the topic due to simple curiosity thought, and these were my findings. Note, my research was very American-focused. Elsewhere in the world may be very different, I don't know.