VN Ren'Py Abandoned Shards of the Past [v0.3.1] [Garou24]

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This is a great start. I do have a couple critiques: the first is that the introduction should state that the world is dark. Some people are going to be put off by all the racism and murder and rape, and it's better for everyone if they're steered away at the start.
I'm also not sure about the "no choice rollback" thing. So far, I've found myself doing my normal choice->rollback->actual choice I would make pattern, so it's just a minor irritation for me.

And holy fuck, are the women beautiful. Definitely a strong contender for the title of "most beautiful women" among all the VNs I've played. And all the other games too, come to think of it.
 
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By reading these forums I feel I missed a lot of scenes since there are different paths. It only took a couple hours to go from start to end of current update it seems.
 

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This is a great start. I do have a couple critiques: the first is that the introduction should state that the world is dark. Some people are going to be put off by all the racism and murder and rape, and it's better for everyone if they're steered away at the start.
I'm also not sure about the "no choice rollback" thing. So far, I've found myself doing my normal choice->rollback->actual choice I would make pattern, so it's just a minor irritation for me.

And holy fuck, are the women beautiful. Definitely a strong contender for the title of "most beautiful women" among all the VNs I've played. And all the other games too, come to think of it.
yeah I used the quick save and load option alot myself since I do the same check out choice 1 rollback choice 2 rollback actual choice in most AVN's

I agree all the women are really beautiful in this one. Honestly Qinara is easily top 5 or 10 when it comes to looks for me.
 
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Garou24

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By reading these forums I feel I missed a lot of scenes since there are different paths. It only took a couple hours to go from start to end of current update it seems.
To see a bulk of the scenes and their different variations you will need at least 4 playthroughs. Helping or not helping Damerek in the forest at the start of the game is a major split and then winning or losing the fight in the tavern also has a large impact on various scenes. then the smaller choices all add variation as well impact your relationship with Qinara. Many of the 1 on 1 scenes with her have 2 or 3 script and visual variations based on the relationship level you have with her. The effect of many choices is not always revealed immediately. Many are still having impact to the story and scenes shown even a couple updates after making them.
 

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This is a great start. I do have a couple critiques: the first is that the introduction should state that the world is dark. Some people are going to be put off by all the racism and murder and rape, and it's better for everyone if they're steered away at the start.
I'm also not sure about the "no choice rollback" thing. So far, I've found myself doing my normal choice->rollback->actual choice I would make pattern, so it's just a minor irritation for me.

And holy fuck, are the women beautiful. Definitely a strong contender for the title of "most beautiful women" among all the VNs I've played. And all the other games too, come to think of it.
The next patch I have coming up for the game will add in the missing campsite scenes as well as some quality of life additions, like font size change slider, disable naming save files if you want etc. I added some new text to the warning screen also which should let players know ahead of time that there are some darker elements they might encounter based on what you suggested. Thanks!

I am glad the work on the women didn't go unnoticed :)
I tried to aim for more natural characters without exaggerated proportions. Plus makeup is not common in this world so hopefully the characters all have a natural beauty to their appearance.
 
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To see a bulk of the scenes and their different variations you will need at least 4 playthroughs. Helping or not helping Damerek in the forest at the start of the game is a major split and then winning or losing the fight in the tavern also has a large impact on various scenes.
You should make that a little clearer somewhere in the game. Perhaps a little notice at the top: "Important decision: choose wisely" or something. I wouldn't've known which decisions are important otherwise, and there are far too many to do a branch at every option.
Also, a "save your game here" endscreen would be good, especially with 4 required playthroughs.

hopefully the characters all have a natural beauty to their appearance.
Uhh... yeah; you fucking nailed it.
 

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holy shit! This was a great start, I do have some minor reservations but if an 18+ game can hold my attention rather than skip, you are doing something great here especially with consequences on choices and how the characters react even to the minor choices. An example is when you disagree or agree with caleb's view of having a child watch an execution and the companions either react to the subsequent dialogue that comes from you or not.
 

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It seems it's a trend in new games to represent Elves as a fallen, weak race who has lost wars, lands and turn to banditry and thievery. It's starting to get a bit old already.
 

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Indeed I fully agree to all positive comments written so far - amazing story and (as we already learned more about the acting persons) excellent written characters.:love:
This regarding I have to confirm this VN having the best looking MC of all VN´s I´m knowing (y)

As I´m also currently reading through Tribulation of a Mage I recognize with pleasure a similar composition of our community of fate (human, elf, dwarf) - giving a lot of potential for the evolution of intertwining between the members.

But - as amandressedlikeabat addressed - a Walkthrough ingame or outside as pdf would really be nice to be aware of important choices.
 
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Indeed I fully agree to all positive comments written so far - amazing story and (as we already learned more about the acting persons) excellent written characters.:love:
This regarding I have to confirm this VN having the best looking MC of all VN´s I´m knowing (y)

As I´m also currently reading through Tribulation of a Mage I recognize with pleasure a similar composition of our community of fate (human, elf, dwarf) - giving a lot of potential for the evolution of intertwining between the members.

But - as amandressedlikeabat addressed - a Walkthrough ingame or outside as pdf would really be nice to be aware of important choices.
(almost)fully agree on the first part, and (almost)fully disagree on the second part.

one of the very last things this (or any decent) avn needs would be ingame walkthrough.
hell, i have seen users asking for walki even in some KNs (zero choices) or in harem-fuckfest (wanna fuck her now, ont wanna to fuck her now), so cant say im that surprised here.
btw, there are walkthrough mods creators, so why dont you, and other wishing for it, try your luck requesting there?
 

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It seems it's a trend in new games to represent Elves as a fallen, weak race who has lost wars, lands and turn to banditry and thievery. It's starting to get a bit old already.
nothing new been a theme in games since forever been a theme in games my entire life
 

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I wish you can scroll back after the choices. I made a choice just to see what happens but had to load back just to choose something else. Also, Are there any point systems in this game? If so, they should have a mod to show what points are add and which is subtract. I chose to spy on the healer but I don't know if it caused a good karma or a bad karma. Also, are there any game over in this game?
 

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Sharing - This is part of a random encounter I had written for later in the game. You and your group come across traveling merchants. One of them has an item you want, but you have nothing he wants in trade... or do you? His gaze sure is lingering on your female companion...
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Why not have sharing between you and females only. Where it's just you an two or more females. I don't like sharing my females with other males only with other females.
 

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I wish you can scroll back after the choices. I made a choice just to see what happens but had to load back just to choose something else. Also, Are there any point systems in this game? If so, they should have a mod to show what points are add and which is subtract. I chose to spy on the healer but I don't know if it caused a good karma or a bad karma. Also, are there any game over in this game?
yeah you have to use quick load and save before each choice if you do that like I do. a bit annoying but it's w/e
 

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That one unlocks by watching Qinara change when she is in your room for the night, but turning away before getting caught.
that is the reason you should let the players scroll back. We can gain more gallery and then go back and play how we want. I'm tired of having to reload a game just to gain something. I feel any DEV that prevents scroll back after choices or without choices are just hateful.
 

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I wish you can scroll back after the choices. I made a choice just to see what happens but had to load back just to choose something else.
Its pretty bad form blocking rollback without good reason lets be honest, it really serves no purpose other than making people save/load everytime. You can also use the console and do config.rollback_enabled = True but every choice turns rollback block back on so may aswell just reload save or you need to mod to enable it.
 

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I wish you can scroll back after the choices. I made a choice just to see what happens but had to load back just to choose something else. Also, Are there any point systems in this game? If so, they should have a mod to show what points are add and which is subtract. I chose to spy on the healer but I don't know if it caused a good karma or a bad karma. Also, are there any game over in this game?
There are points for each of the characters and choices will raise or lower them. I didn't want to make them visible because I wanted players to go with their gut on choices or go with the way they want their character act and not feel like their choices are forced on them because they know it will raise or lower a stat. The way characters react should give you a good enough clue as to how they feel about a choice you have made.

There is a Renegade/Paragon system for some of the larger story choices that will come into play later in the story once you have made enough decisions one way or another.

There is no Game Over choice. A good example is the tavern fight scene, losing the fight does not cause any game over or force you to retry until you win. It changes many scenes going forward and adds in a few that would not be seen any other way. A few players told me they prefer to lose due to the scene with Qinara at the end of 0.2.0 version and losing the fight also opens up some more dialogue and options in the latest release as well. Options like that are just another way to play through the story, but will not be a Game Over type of event.
 

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I didn't want to make them visible because I wanted players to go with their gut on choices or go with the way they want their character act and not feel like their choices are forced on them because they know it will raise or lower a stat.
I don't want to speak for others, but that's the exact reason I won't play. 1 points systems/dating sims suck 2. not knowing the out come of a choice especially when it starts with pimp this chick out so you can get something you want... is terrible form. 3. If I wanted randomness and consequences for choices I'd go play real life....... again I can't speak for others but everything you said in that entire statement left me completely uninterested.
The banner and the preview renders look good though. so there's that.
 

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I don't want to speak for others, but that's the exact reason I won't play. 1 points systems/dating sims suck 2. not knowing the out come of a choice especially when it starts with pimp this chick out so you can get something you want... is terrible form. 3. If I wanted randomness and consequences for choices I'd go play real life....... again I can't speak for others but everything you said in that entire statement left me completely uninterested.
The banner and the preview renders look good though. so there's that.
i have some doubts you are actually able to live "real life".
my best guess would be that you are some early stages ai.
otherwise, despite having all functional parts in working order, you probably arent even able to walk, eat, drink or to perform any other basic task without regular help from the others.
i dont speak for all, just my 5 cents, so there is that.
 

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i have some doubts you are actually able to live "real life".
my best guess would be that you are some early stages ai.
otherwise, despite having all functional parts in working order, you probably arent even able to walk, eat, drink or to perform any other basic task without regular help from the others.
i dont speak for all, just my 5 cents, so there is that.
well my suspicion is your IQ is 5 since we're throwing out insults lol. But my message was for the dev not you but thanks for clarifying what a swami you are with your doubts, guess', and sharing your entire net worth. Happy fapping.
 
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