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[Cakei]

"my problem with Archeny is she think we are the same, as eating or killing animals to live, well sore looser archeny at least we dont torture or make the animals suffers that are for consume." She is wrong, humans are objectively worse than demons.
"Cruel" Demons like Arachne are less common than ones like Barghest or Lampas or even Echo. Demons don't torture humans they provide them sweet pleasures in exchange for their lives, the worst demons do is cause emotional distress such as fear and helplessness, humanity does that and far worse.
We humans(not all but still many of us) hunt down, torture, abuse, skin or cook alive our livestock and prey by the millions every single day, inflicting agonizing pain and terror upon helpless animals. Demons and Succubi are very kind and moral by comparison so you're just really Wrong.
Have a Holly Jolly Christmas!

I dunno man, we humans consume animal food to exist, and unless of course some endangered species exists, apart from what is consumed the most, there has been no problem, about what we hunt, torture, etc, everyone has a different opinion, and unless you consume the whole animal without processed... It's just normal procedure to consume animals food.
When Yuuha ask Kazuya what happen to one of the pilots to deliver the E-xx, It is there when you realize the value of a person, but that's doesn't mean that a animal value is less to a person but if you have a really close family member or friend, obviously you do not want anything to happen to them or they give you the news that they were eaten without her consent, even if they were give pleasure in exchange of be eaten, and do you see what happen with those mini spider, they melt the low half to be perseve and consume, and if you be rescue you live without legs...
and that monsters or demons are good... It varies a lot from story to story, game or interpretation, but in this game, honestly no, they are not good. If it wasn't for the Older One or Chara's representation of Genocide route you take out dangerous monsters without the repercussion of the Genocide route.
Anyway sorry for the long talk, I want to clarify my posture on this game, and don't take this personal.
Merry Christmas to all.

 

[Minishotgun]

I said my stance on it serveral times by now, so i agree with the following point; If it weren't for the way the Genocide route is presented, i don't think many of us would have spared most of the demons here, since their first impressions to most of them are quite bad.

you just can't make a dangerous villain and then turn around and go "lets forget about that bloodshed, ain't she just the cutest waifu" once they are befriended.

 

[RobotZN]

Stumbled upon another error playing ex 4 missing files again

having this issue too
it seems to be related to the files being named the wrong thing for some reason, since there's nothing wrong with the images
Had the previous issue too and all it took was renaming that one to the name of the posted file

 

[avientone]

so about the spider killing itself even when i have lampa bonded and empuse bonded as well some odd reason she still ends up killing herself. do i need to exhaust their dialog as well?

She kills herself? I've never seen that scene?

 

[avientone]

Already has one.

Thanks!!!!

 

[avientone]

Does anyone know something about this? It's in the room where you start the game, right side of the bookshelf, what is it for?

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Never knew this!

 

[bwardyunbip]

I dunno man, we humans consume animal food to exist, and unless of course some endangered species exists, apart from what is consumed the most, there has been no problem, about what we hunt, torture, etc, everyone has a different opinion, and unless you consume the whole animal without processed... It's just normal procedure to consume animals food.
When Yuuha ask Kazuya what happen to one of the pilots to deliver the E-xx, It is there when you realize the value of a person, but that's doesn't mean that a animal value is less to a person but if you have a really close family member or friend, obviously you do not want anything to happen to them or they give you the news that they were eaten without her consent, even if they were give pleasure in exchange of be eaten, and do you see what happen with those mini spider, they melt the low half to be perseve and consume, and if you be rescue you live without legs...
and that monsters or demons are good... It varies a lot from story to story, game or interpretation, but in this game, honestly no, they are not good. If it wasn't for the Older One or Chara's representation of Genocide route you take out dangerous monsters without the repercussion of the Genocide route.
Anyway sorry for the long talk, I want to clarify my posture on this game, and don't take this personal.
Merry Christmas to all.

Yeah I agree with you there, Humans and Demons are roughly the same. It's kill or be killed.

 

[avientone]

Am I ever going to know what this means?


And I honestly don't know where I stand on the subject of who is better or more evil. I never even asked myself that question about the monsters in this game. I guess I just judged them by the actions they took and not by their potential to do bad.

 

[Cakei]

Am I ever going to know what this means?
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And I honestly don't know where I stand on the subject of who is better or more evil. I never even asked myself that question about the monsters in this game. I guess I just judged them by the actions they took and not by their potential to do bad.

I mean on the first chapter, when you fight with the mantis girls, Yuulha say, she kill all the remaining that trying to escape, you see with the iron maiden second encounter, Lampas kill all hidden person's that trying to survive, and etc, keep going and you will see more. I am doing the true mercy path and see if I can change my mind.

 

[avientone]

I mean on the first chapter, when you fight with the mantis girls, Yuulha say, she kill all the remaining that trying to escape, you see with the iron maiden second encounter, Lampas kill all hidden person's that trying to survive, and etc, keep going and you will see more. I am doing the true mercy path and see if I can change my mind.

Saving people should definitely come first. I just don't like that "kill or be killed" attitude. Life is more complicated than that. I was basically all for saving people but still make peace but also find some way to have consequentless H with all them@@!!! Like with Daji and Yami!!! Is it bad that even if there were severe lethal consequences I'd still do it for a chance to be with that purple, bombshell bodied, breasts wider than your shoulders KITSUNE!!!???

 

[Cakei]

Saving people should definitely come first. I just don't like that "kill or be killed" attitude. Life is more complicated than that. I was basically all for saving people but still make peace but also find some way to have consequentless H with all them@@!!! Like with Daji and Yami!!! Is it bad that even if there were severe lethal consequences I'd still do it for a chance to be with that purple, bombshell bodied, breasts wider than your shoulders KITSUNE!!!???

Same dude, same, same mindset same everything, but when you cool analysis it... Is even possible to have some kind of coexistence or peace, with monsters that see all humans as food? Hell do you reach the fish girl and read the notes or the Micah girl and what happen to her?...
With the Undertale game I can have a Mercy one, bcuz they are not the mindset of kill of be killes, they just want to escape.

 

[bwardyunbip]

Saving people should definitely come first. I just don't like that "kill or be killed" attitude. Life is more complicated than that. I was basically all for saving people but still make peace but also find some way to have consequentless H with all them@@!!! Like with Daji and Yami!!! Is it bad that even if there were severe lethal consequences I'd still do it for a chance to be with that purple, bombshell bodied, breasts wider than your shoulders KITSUNE!!!???

The Thirst
I simp for Daji too. Giving yourself to her will bring you eternal happiness so I'm right there with you.

 

[avientone]

Same dude, same, same mindset same everything, but when you cool analysis it... Is even possible to have some kind of coexistence or peace, with monsters that see all humans as food? Hell do you reach the fish girl and read the notes or the Micah girl and what happen to her?...
With the Undertale game I can have a Mercy one, bcuz they are not the mindset of kill of be killes, they just want to escape.

Yeah I really can't say I'd seek a truce with the demons that made those lamps or made a nest with cocooned people hanging from the ceiling. Maybe it's just about countermeasures or trying to make peace with the one's who will actually listen? Kinda like "how am I supposed to know if no one explained the rules beforehand"? I know that sounds dumb. If every reaction from a human is try to kill you before you kill me then everyone's kill'n and everyone's dying.

I never played Undertale. Any good? Where can I get it?

 

[Cakei]

Let's see, want to end the true Mercy mode and then the EX ones, after that I post my opinion and see if it changes

 

[avientone]

Let's see, want to end the true Mercy mode and then the EX ones, after that I post my opinion and see if it changes

I never got the "Genocide Route" just the "Hypocrite Route". Wish I knew how to do that. I did try to get True Mercy then "Hypocrite" then the one where no one trusts you(can't remember route name), then tried to go True Mercy. That True Mercy Route has some things change drastically after having the home screen full of everyone's face being scratched out. For example, you can lose access to Mormo's room after some creepy dialogue she says. You kinda get corruption from the things you did on the evil routes so the second track through True Mercy is worth a look.

 

[Hanrushi]

I'm doing genocide, but on 3-1, the Echo's never leave no matter how many I kill. Any idea what the problem is?

 

[avientone]

I'm doing genocide, but on 3-1, the Echo's never leave no matter how many I kill. Any idea what the problem is?

Did you run across the main Echo pleading her case?

 

[Hanrushi]

Shot her in the face. Doing hypocrite route specifically which I should have mentioned.

 

[avientone]

They have to stop appearing eventually. I think. Just throw in some powder.

 

[avientone]

The Thirst
I simp for Daji too. Giving yourself to her will bring you eternal happiness so I'm right there with you.

No reason not to chase after eternal happiness right!!!!!!