- Jul 12, 2020
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Well your grammar is as bad so going to ask the important question:
Not the dev are you?
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Not the dev are you?
- Feb 1, 2020
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This is why dont like talking to people. The dialogue in question are his thoughts and his thoughts tell us he fighting against being corrupted. THAT IS THE POINT OF THE STORY SO FAR. Its easy to see you guys are annoyed at it, but that is being annoyed at the fact he is fighting the corruption you guys just can't see it. But telling I don't understand that you are annoyed at the character's thoughts? That is easy to see. If someone fights against corruption and feels anxiety about it they WOULD ACT LIKE THE MC. To understand a character is to understand not just his past and how that past shapes him, but what the character is doing and why he does it. To complain about the MC's thoughts cause that is not how you would react makes no sense. Its a part of his character. I don't get how you guys don't think I understand why you guys are annoyed with the character's thoughts. Its simple that you guys do not understand how different people think. You guys have no understanding of psychology or at least that is what it seems cause THAT IS MY ARGUMENT!!! PSYCOLOGY!!!
- Feb 1, 2020
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So you are a grammar nazi? That is fine. No I am not the dev I just understand the psycology of the character and why the character is repeating. Its normally behaviour for someone who is fighting corruption within his or her mind. While at the same having some anxiety issues. That is the thing i am thinking about the psychology, not how cringey it is to continually read the same thing. I understand the struggle. The repetitive nature of his thoughts speak his struggle. I am sorry that you guys don't get that and think that i don't get how it is cringey for you guys. I get that reading the same reaction over and over again is cringey. I get it you are not the MC. You lived different lives different thoughts. His life caused him to have anxeity. I understand the psycology of anxeity. I just don't get why people think i dont understand. Though i easily see its cringey. You either sympathize or you don't. You think you understand his struggle you do not. Yes it fictional character, BUT if the MC was a real person complaining about someone thoughts is belittling them and their struggle like immature fools. No matter if it games, movies, books. or comics the characters in those stories are in their own little world that we gleam into. You guys just look at him as a character. Someone who is creating a story has to see them as real or they can only come up with a mediocre story. Its just the way things work. I'm not thinking about how people would see it who mindlessly read it for "quick releases" or just reading it. I'm thinking in the mind of someone creating a story cause that is what the dev is doing. The dev is creating a world we are gleaming into. Not just a quick story.
- Sep 24, 2017
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Could be I missed a build, but damn this update seemed packed with story content. I have high hopes for this game. Becca is delicious and devious, and now that Lilly is loosing up she's getting there too, like a young version of Shannon as Abby is to Jess. Mei is so cute, you just don't want to do her any wrong. I prefer the aggressive slutty girls so it's unlikely I'll choose Meiko for anything but friends though. Fantastic work here, keep it up! Seriously weighing on backing this project soon.
- May 26, 2018
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While I DO understand where you are coming from with your psychological profile of the MC, I have to admit that this game is becoming so boring that I am about ready to just say "fuck it" and give up on the game. I mean, this is now version 0.10.1 and nothing is really happening with the MC and his daughters. Sorry, but there are MUCH better games that - while using slow burn for actions or H-Scenes - they still have much more action than this one. As far as the story within the game, that is nearly as boring as the scenes. It is obvious to me that the developer is just using this game as a money scam since it takes this freaking long to see any real action and the MC is so weak that it looks like it will not be until (at a guess) at MINIMUM version 0.20.0 before we ever see any real action within this game, though I would guess it will probably be longer.
As someone who has both studied psychology and suffers from anxiety, I think it's fair to say I understand anxiety.
But ...
The complaint as I see it is that there is no apparent evolution in his character. He's static. Abby's become more adventurous. Lilith has started opening up. Becca, well okay no real evolution there but her character doesn't need it. She's the driving force behind most, if not all, the other changes.
So why is his character the one that's stuck repeating the same thoughts?
You say that's because it is his character to be stuck repeating the same thoughts. I say that's a boring character. His being stuck on the same thoughts is inconsistent with the story direction. If he never changes, the ending of this story will be a bizarre and disturbing harem where he keeps fucking all the girls while thinking "this is so wrong, I shouldn't be doing this."
Slow character development along this path from "we shouldn't/can't do this" to "this is what we all want and it's good" is fine (and something I argued for not being a big problem before this update.) No character development is not. Both Abby and Becca have, in different ways, made it clear to him that what is happening in their respective storylines is okay. They want it. They want him to want it. It wouldn't be realistic for him to suddenly switch, but it would for him to become less anxious and more open.
And that's literally what we are asking for. Not "jump straight to him having no concerns" - just have some development in that direction.
- Nov 28, 2018
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Dude/dudette, chill. Ever wonder why you are the only person arguing your point of view and every other person ( I mean really not one other person is supporting you) is supporting the other point of view?
The only dick I wanna see in a VN is the one attached to my character. It's a needless scene that could have just been some text.
- Jan 31, 2019
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I'll be honest, the writing in this update made the MC sound like a total fag; he keeps triple guessing himself and it's so annoying and repetitive. like dev, can we just fuck the 4 girls you have us already? I know about slow burns but it's been like 10 updates and we just got our fist handjob from one of the daughters.
I almost turned off the game mid update kuz he keeps going on and on about Becca pulling some master plan to get him to fuck Lilly. and idk how many times the girls have to drill it into this idiot's head that they are giving their consent to fuck and he's like "BuT Ur MaH daWTers!" like just say you don't wanna fuck and be done with it. stop this whole I do but I don't shit! It's old and tired.
If I have to read this fucking line one more time, I'm gunna lose it!!!
I almost turned off the game mid update kuz he keeps going on and on about Becca pulling some master plan to get him to fuck Lilly. and idk how many times the girls have to drill it into this idiot's head that they are giving their consent to fuck and he's like "BuT Ur MaH daWTers!" like just say you don't wanna fuck and be done with it. stop this whole I do but I don't shit! It's old and tired.
If I have to read this fucking line one more time, I'm gunna lose it!!!
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- Apr 8, 2020
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Although I agree with you, for the most part, I do see an evolution on this character and it is going at a pace that makes sense, he isn't a 20 something (although the character model is) he's probably around 38-40 if not more, let's say Abby was conceived when he was 20 and now she is in college, so at least 38 from what I remember, it is actually harder to change the older you get and even so he is slowly accepting that he has these feelings, it has been what 3 weeks in-game? that is a reasonable evolution for that time frame also breaking away from societal norms is hard, people don't even accept open-relationships or polyamory as valid relationships so incest or what for this character would feel like incest would be even harder to accept, again this is all in my views and from what little I remember from the studies I've read so I'm likely wrong.
I do understand that it might not be entertaining to some but it seems like it is the path that the dev prefers.
edit: Sorry if this sounded in any way hostile my writing tends to come off like that but I'm not trying to be.
- Apr 8, 2020
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This is just a non-argument, it isn't because most have an opinion that they are right, also options differ a lot, also Hi I'm gonna have to support their point of view, although I do disagree somewhat with the approach, people tend to want the MC's to be an Avatar and that is not the case in this game, so yeah you should at least try and put yourself in this 38-year-old place and see the girl's as he does, then maybe you would be able to understand all the hesitation, also try and remember that for us months have passed but not for the characters.
- Nov 27, 2019
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I would be with you if the MC wasn't a complete pushover the moment any of the girls nudge him into new sexual territory.
Either a) He has evolved and is beginning to accept these things without changing his internal dialogue, b) he's perfectly find being manipulated and outright sexually assaulted by his children.
I feel like MC should have put his foot down in the sauna, even if he didn't want to punish Becca while Lilly was there, as soon as Lilly left he should have seriously laid into her for crossing boundaries and told her to go away until he's willing to forgive her for that. His allowing Becca to continue her machinations completely breaks the idea that he's static, it completely breaks the idea that he's against these things happening.
You can't have it both ways. Either he's a willing participant in these scenes and is accepting this breaking of societal norms, or he's a spineless victim of his children's sexual abuse.
- Apr 8, 2020
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a) seems more likely, actually as I said in another(?) post he has been changing and accepting his feelings but is still struggling with his conscience, that is all actually told to us in-game.
I actually agree with you, his willingness to just go along with it bothered me as well, the fact that he just got overtalked bothered me a lot, but he is not me he is (input default name that I forgot)
edit: I do think that he will stand up to Becca in the future updates by how this one ended.
edit2: I actually talked about him accepting his feelings in the same text that you cut and quoted
- Jan 31, 2019
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can talk two stop tryna rationalize porn games. The writing is trash and dev keeps recycling the same old conversations of will he won't he. That's all this is.
- Apr 8, 2020
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The writing isn't stellar that is true but no, I mean to an extent, yes, but it is written in a way that makes sense, at least as much sense as it can, maybe the problem is that you are looking for a "porn" game and not an "adult" game, not all games here are pure porn games.
Doesn't sound hostile at all.
While in theory being older makes it tougher to be open to new things, and for certain personality types it's definitely true, it's far from a universal truth. Still, I could accept it as an explanation for being slower.
I like the conflict; it helped differentiate this game from most others of similar type. But it can't continue forever. If he is slowly accepting that he has these feelings it should be reflected in his thoughts.
I'm hopeful that post the steam and shower scenes, plus with him now sleeping nearly naked with Abby every night and her giving him permission to look at her body when out of bed, we're going to see that evolution of thought catch up with the action. I played through the shower scene again now and there is evidence there that he is changing at least a little in that direction (which I probably missed first time around due to having grown used to the same thoughts over and over and now expecting them.) So I'll wait for the next update and see if that continues.
- Mar 2, 2018
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Better not watch any real porn then. You're gonna be mightily disappointed.
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You are way to impatient. Sadly our world teaches us how to be impatient then patient. Everything gets more high tech just to keep us entertained and make us feel entitled. Sometimes its better to immerse yourself into a story to truly enjoy. Sometimes slow is the better course. Also being slower than the other novel games is a welcomed change. The status quo is what is really boring. At least that is how I see it.