Elduriel

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Frank's options for kinks are so tame they're almost boring. I don't know why the options reads "Porn Sex" when the dev just describes rough sex. Public sex is something, I guess. Pregnancy sex is about the only I'd describe as an actual kink, possibly fetish. And "Romantic Sex" isn't a kink at all!
incest should have been there even though they're not blood related, but still...
 
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SLOW BURN SLOW THEN MORE SLOW BURN , this is worse than a 10 years school book , dev cant achive or dont know how to make the scenes , some being repetitve wich is no the worse EXAMPLE OH this uptade she takes a sock out , then next update she takes other sock out , then next uptade she changes her payamas for bed and it goes like that for like 6 updates .

Weell IF SLOW BURN is your stuf good luck to shu
 

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I wanted to click Frank's kink as pregnant sex, but I'm not into pregnant sex. I'm into impregnation! Also, I'm with most people that Frank's needs to man the F up already, but then I remember it's only been, like, a week or so in game.
 

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Rebecca has become addicted to her stepfather's yogurt and with the huge doses he gives her, she will never get rid of the addiction:(:( :ROFLMAO: .
it's good for skin. :p

incest should have been there even though they're not blood related, but still...
well can't get closer to incest than this w/o adoption or bloodrelation, frank has raised abby since she born and for beccy and lilly frank was father for many years and best they have had.
 
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ramvivat

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I wanted to click Frank's kink as pregnant sex, but I'm not into pregnant sex. I'm into impregnation! Also, I'm with most people that Frank's needs to man the F up already, but then I remember it's only been, like, a week or so in game.
you are still young ... but nothing - what are your years, grow up - grow up to pregnant sex =) meanwhile, it is good for pregnant women to have sex. did not know? read smart books. it is easier for pregnant women to give birth, the cervix softens from sperm, and the vagina becomes more elastic. so from usefulness we pass to pleasantness. be healthy.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Because the incest tag unfortunately also includes relatives by law and not blood.
And we are far away from "which is good" because the game is marketed as an incest game while the dev tried everything in his power to make it not about that... even the one daughter that should be his is just his adopted daughter from the woman that friendzoned him.
Lets be fair, from what I've seen it doesn't look like she friendzoned him. She was basically throwing herself at him, and he responded by dating the girl who was relentlessly bullying her, often right in front of him. Only reason her first born wasn't his is because he was being a fucking asshole to her basically their whole friendship choosing her bully over her.
And damnit, you just made me remember another reason why I hate this MC :ROFLMAO:
 

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Lets be fair, from what I've seen it doesn't look like she friendzoned him. She was basically throwing herself at him, and he responded by dating the girl who was relentlessly bullying her, often right in front of him. Only reason her first born wasn't his is because he was being a fucking asshole to her basically their whole friendship choosing her bully over her.
And damnit, you just made me remember another reason why I hate this MC :ROFLMAO:
Oh absolutely... that's why Frank is an idiot.
She was into him... and instead of going for her he dated the town bicycle... and I bet she was only with him to bully her even more.

Frank is the textbook definition of being a dumb fuck.
 

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Of course, but dumping all that on them right after having sex certainly isn't a way to deal with it. Telling them he felt ashamed of having sex with them? That's just being selfish to make himself feel better after the fact and would likely make them feel pretty low.

- Just saying he definitely could have handled it better.
Was it wrong how he handled it? Possibly. But still understandable to me.

Frank's options for kinks are so tame they're almost boring. I don't know why the options reads "Porn Sex" when the dev just describes rough sex. Public sex is something, I guess. Pregnancy sex is about the only I'd describe as an actual kink, possibly fetish. And "Romantic Sex" isn't a kink at all!
Gotta disagree, I would say everything can be a kink. Yes, even vaginal sex in the missionary position. I get where you are coming from and it would admittedly be silly to include stuff like that in the tag list for the purposes of this game - but the statement I still agree with.

Lets be fair, from what I've seen it doesn't look like she friendzoned him. She was basically throwing herself at him, and he responded by dating the girl who was relentlessly bullying her, often right in front of him. Only reason her first born wasn't his is because he was being a fucking asshole to her basically their whole friendship choosing her bully over her.
And damnit, you just made me remember another reason why I hate this MC :ROFLMAO:
While I do not hate Frank, I completely agree about the sheer stupidity of this.
 

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I liked the new update so far... The character development for the girls is being really interesting, unfortunately I can't just binge the game due to my disgust toward the MC, what an insufferable character, and I can only take it in small increments... But apart from the MC I really enjoy the game, thanks to the Dev team keep up the good work.
 
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So I stopped playing back around 1.12 which was right when Frank finally had sex with both Lilly and Becca. Up until that point the slow burn was tedious but somewhat understandable. I thought to myself, surely now that the gates have been opened he'll stop questioning himself every other sentence. Picking it back up and playing it past that point...I have been proven wrong. How is Frank STILL second, triple, and quadruple guessing his decisions. It has moved past slow burn "realism" into intentional forced drudgery in order to delay the story.
 

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So I stopped playing back around 1.12 which was right when Frank finally had sex with both Lilly and Becca. Up until that point the slow burn was tedious but somewhat understandable. I thought to myself, surely now that the gates have been opened he'll stop questioning himself every other sentence. Picking it back up and playing it past that point...I have been proven wrong. How is Frank STILL second, triple, and quadruple guessing his decisions. It has moved past slow burn "realism" into intentional forced drudgery in order to delay the story.
Agreed. It does feel like MC takes 1 step forward and 3 steps back. It's tedious. Let's just please move the story along.

He *does* pass along some useful advice to Lillly... finally.
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Frank's options for kinks are so tame they're almost boring. I don't know why the options reads "Porn Sex" when the dev just describes rough sex. Public sex is something, I guess. Pregnancy sex is about the only I'd describe as an actual kink, possibly fetish. And "Romantic Sex" isn't a kink at all!
Yeah, they do seem tame. I think Porn Sex could cover any kink though so, seems like a good choice to pick.
 
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I like this game a lot, except Frank's "one step forward, two steps back" mentality. I'm afraid that the next update will have Frank regress to the "This is wrong. I can't feel this way towards my (step) daughters" mode after stuffing Becca and Lilith.

Abby inherited a house where she, Lilith, Becca, Frank, and possibly Meiko, Beth and Vanessa could all live in together and they haven't even bothered to check the house out. Why haven't they!?

Abby's bio dad has been left in limbo. Something needs to happen with that plotline. Then there's Shannon. She COULD cause some trouble in the next 2 updates, but I have a bad feeling that she too, will get the back burner and we'll have more "Oh no this is wrong. I can't be attracted to my (step) daughters" issues from Francis. Especially now that he has accepted his relationship with both Lilith and Becca, plus he's begun to assert his dominance and not be the doormat that bends over his (step) daughters and cries because he's pleasing them as they asked.

TBH I'm more interested in learning Abby's reaction about Frank stuffing Lilith and Becca like Thanksgiving Turkeys and glazing them like Cinnabon than Frank actually having sex with Abby.
 
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It's just kind of sad that you have to pick 1 out of 4 of those kinks when the MC is talking to Lilly and Becca at the hotel bar. Even if you can have all of those kinks in the future, you are still missing out on a scene/scenes and or dialogue when those options come into play.
 
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MrLKX

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I think we can all agree that

1.) it was a mistake for Frank to date Shannon back then.
2.) Shannon dated him mainly to hurt Jessica.

However, we also have to keep in mind that without this bad decision, most of the frame story would not be possible the way it is:

Frank would most likely never have married Shannon after Jessica's death, consequently chances are that he and Abby (if Abby had ever been born) would never have met Lilly and Becca. One of the reasons that Frank married Shannon on his second marriage was that they had a history together. In short, yes, it was a stupid decision for Frank to date Shannon, but without that decision, the plot wouldn't really work, and besides, Frank was only 16 at the time, and who didn't make stupid decisions at 16?

On the subject of incest, I say only: Mormons and the noble houses of Europe. One-way streets like panda bears and the extinct dodos.
 
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ramvivat

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You DO realize this is a game
let me disagree.
game experience (GE) is a part of live experience because when we play - we live. GE not vanished to emptyness after gameover - GE influences decisions in our lives in exactly the same way as school experience influences.

GE influences decisions in our lives in exactly the same way as school experience influences.
I will prove. let me?
chess.
a bad chess player won't win a game. and a game not won will spoil his mood for the whole day => just as human experience affects behavior in the game, so GE affects human behavior in the world. dare to deny? =)
yes, a person who knows how to pretend well, that is, an experienced liar, having lost at chess, can pretend that he does not care whether he won or lost - but that's all. a bad liar can be read by the expression on his face that he is upset about losing a game of chess. this I additionally prove that GE affects human behavior, that is, the game is a part of life, that GE is inseparable from other life experiences. again dare to deny? =)

I know you can now rush into battle to refute (I won’t deny, your arguments are interesting) what I’m saying, but over time, having gained your own life experience, you will definitely mentally say one day - “and that dude was right!”.
 

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let me disagree.
game experience (GE) is a part of live experience because when we play - we live. GE not vanished to emptyness after gameover - GE influences decisions in our lives in exactly the same way as school experience influences.

GE influences decisions in our lives in exactly the same way as school experience influences.
I will prove. let me?
chess.
a bad chess player won't win a game. and a game not won will spoil his mood for the whole day => just as human experience affects behavior in the game, so GE affects human behavior in the world. dare to deny? =)
yes, a person who knows how to pretend well, that is, an experienced liar, having lost at chess, can pretend that he does not care whether he won or lost - but that's all. a bad liar can be read by the expression on his face that he is upset about losing a game of chess. this I additionally prove that GE affects human behavior, that is, the game is a part of life, that GE is inseparable from other life experiences. again dare to deny? =)

I know you can now rush into battle to refute (I won’t deny, your arguments are interesting) what I’m saying, but over time, having gained your own life experience, you will definitely mentally say one day - “and that dude was right!”.
You are arguing semantics... this is an AVN. An Adult Visual Novel and those generally are considered games.
 
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ramvivat

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You are arguing semantics... this is an AVN. An Adult Visual Novel and those generally are considered games.
the game has a choice. even if the choice is primitive, such as in "my new family" where the choice of "go to visit Tanya" or "stay at home to rest" is already a game and you influence the events in it. this VN (that is, "single again") - can already be called a game.

you see, I sort things, separating the RenPy-game from the VN - and I strongly advise you to learn how to sort things so as not to fall into hypocrisy.

pure VN (or kinetic novel) is, for example, "measure my cum" - yes, it is - in its purest form, a virtual desktop book where the reader is deprived of the right to choose. where the only choice is to read or not to read. do not read = close and delete. but you have no control over the events in the story. the maximum you can do is to prevent events from getting under your skin and into your brain - that is, not to read. but only.
 
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Yeah, I'm guessing some of these people don't actually READ the story. Maybe just skim through looking for scenes glancing over the text here and there.
Some !!! is there really some people who actually read that blablabla for hours !!! This VN loves to talk and talk without saying anything like a bunch of college girls waiting for the bus.
 
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