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So a question for the fans here, how intense does this lesbian shit between Abby and Lilly get?

I haven seen any action between them, but the talk is really putting me off the game so far. I'm at the point where Abby and the MC go to meet Lily at work to meet her boyfriend. I'm just hoping nothing comes of it.
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Maviarab

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Sorry if my edgy attempt to be funny offended you, When i said that the MC is a pussy, i criticised his ability to be desicive and open with his feelings and motives. Im not here to debate heteronormativity or toxic masculinity. You are the one who brought gender into the debate not i.
Is all good. it did many things, offending me wasn't one of them ;)

I still have to disagree, you're overlooking actions and accounts from her own daughters, that prove she doesn't regret a thing. Which was your point in your original post i believe. She regrets cheating but she still goes and attempts to ruin MCs life with abuse accusations? That would result in much more than her getting more during the divorce. I also find it quite hard to believe calling MC a pussy was "humor" when you're so adamant to defend your position.
Perfectly summed up.

So a question for the fans here, how intense does this lesbian shit between Abby and Lilly get?

I haven seen any action between them, but the talk is really putting me off the game so far. I'm at the point where Abby and the MC go to meet Lily at work to meet her boyfriend. I'm just hoping nothing comes of it.
Ohhh just you wait....
 

KinkierThanThou

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Very few lewd scenes and far between in this one. The writing gets better the deeper you go. I wouldn't compare it to Light of My Life (as that is the best of the genre) but it is a solid story with a MC that actually gives a damn about the women in his life. There are parts I find annoying (anything dream related) but I am not a fan of telling stories via dream sequences. Just know that you shouldn't act like a perv in this game, unlike the normal games on here, so control yourself. LOL
I dunno about that. The dream sequences in LOML sure as hell packed an emotional wallop. I'd even say the biggest emotional wallop. And while I agree that the dream sequences in SA aren't written as strongly, (well they can't be, compared to LOML every other author is a rank amateur) I think they have their purpose. So I'm not against dream sequences as a storytelling device persay. To me they serve their function, but I'm willing to hear more from your point of view if you want to elaborate.
 

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Becca stated that she was always pretty self centered and didn`t take the feelings of others into account, she even statet that she won`t take responsibility for her actions which is all true and shows in her actions. But you can regret something and still blame someone else for the fallout. Yes, she cheated and she isn`t that happy about it but she doesn`t feel responsible because she blames the MC for her actions. She feels hurt and wants to get back at the MC. Thats her internal justification, doesn`t make it right it just explains it.

For the Joke part, i made a wordplay on getting and being a "pussy". that was the edgy part. The MC is passive, indecisive and still lies to himself about his motivations and feelings. So much that he literaly created a subconscous avatar to deal with his desires and his suffering. So yes that makes him a "pussy" in my book.

The part that he is caring and loving to his (step)daughters, doesnt count as a negative attribute and was never critisised by me.
We'll just have to agree to disagree on both points.
 

Naxos

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Ohhh just you wait....
WTF does that mean?

It's a serious question for me, if they go on to have a full on les scene with just the 2 of them, then I don't want to waste my time on the game.

If nothing really comes of it and it's more talk than anything I can handle it.

I don't do that NTR shit in harem games even if it "just les"

Edit. Sorry that probably reads more hostile than I intended it.
Just annoyed at that direction and at Lilly, hoping her bitchiness gets dealt with.
 
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Badjourasmix

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If you go to his patreon on the types of content he has lesbian stuff planned for the girls, if you don't like when girls in the harem get involved with each other I think this will not be the game for you. Personally I don't care, if they are all dating the MC and then decide to have sex with each other when the MC is not around. As long as there aren't any other dicks involved I'm fine with it.
 

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If you go to his patreon on the types of content he has lesbian stuff planned for the girls, if you don't like when girls in the harem get involved with each other I think this will not be the game for you. Personally I don't care, if they are all dating the MC and then decide to have sex with each other when the MC is not around. As long as there aren't any other dicks involved I'm fine with it.
So sad. So few games seem to have that option of not letting that happen.

I fully acknowledge it's a hypocritical and selfish view, but i just don't like sharing, even within the harem.

But I'll keep going and see how bad it becomes.
 
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So sad. So few games seem to have that option of not letting that happen.

I fully acknowledge it's a hypocritical and selfish view, but i just don't like sharing, even within the harem.

But I'll keep going and see how bad it becomes.
Well I all comes down to personal preference, the way I view this type of games is, if all the girls have a relationship with the mc and are fine with it, and the mc can't be with all of them all the time, if they decide to have fun with someone in the harem is not a big deal for me. Also I find lesbian scenes really hot.
 

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If you go to his patreon on the types of content he has lesbian stuff planned for the girls, if you don't like when girls in the harem get involved with each other I think this will not be the game for you. Personally I don't care, if they are all dating the MC and then decide to have sex with each other when the MC is not around. As long as there aren't any other dicks involved I'm fine with it.
I only have a problem with it if a mc is never going to be with them when they do it or it's teased but never happens. Like in Alexandra or Freeloading Family, the two main girls had/are in a lesbian relationship but you never see it or it was off screen implied they did something once.
 

Badjourasmix

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I only have a problem with it if a mc is never going to be with them when they do it or it's teased but never happens. Like in Alexandra or Freeloading Family, the two main girls had/are in a lesbian relationship but you never see it or it was off screen implied they did something once.
I'm mean for me at least the point of having lesbian characters in to see them in action. But has I said it all comes down to personal preference. We have to wait and see what the dev decides to do.
 

Maviarab

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They are and will have fun with each other and yes, they do have a 'steamy' scene together.

If that's an issue, walk away now but I am of the same opinion of Badjoura, if my girls want to play with each other, I have no problem with that. Especially when they include you (hopefully...at some point lol).
 
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They are and will have fun with each other and yes, they do have a 'steamy' scene together.

If that's an issue, walk away now but I am of the same opinion of Badjoura, if my girls want to play with each other, I have no problem with that. Especially when they include you (hopefully...at some point lol).
TBH if im fucking them all men and women i dont care if they fool around in between themselves just as long im top dog and i can join in
 

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I dunno about that. The dream sequences in LOML sure as hell packed an emotional wallop. I'd even say the biggest emotional wallop. And while I agree that the dream sequences in SA aren't written as strongly, (well they can't be, compared to LOML every other author is a rank amateur) I think they have their purpose. So I'm not against dream sequences as a storytelling device persay. To me they serve their function, but I'm willing to hear more from your point of view if you want to elaborate.
Let me preface this with the obvious disclaimer that this is only my opinion...

There are always exceptions to any rule but overall in the games I've played that have dream sequences they end up detracting from the story instead of adding to it. In this case the repeated nightmares that Frank had didn't add anything that a single flashback wouldn't have been able to accomplish just as well. Since Frank never remembered the nightmares the only reason for those sequences was to reemphasize Shannon's cheating to the audience. However, most players don't need to see the same scene repeatedly to understand the importance or to remember it. In addition, since we don't know who Trevor is in the larger context of the game, slowly revealing him to us over three dream sequences has no impact on the player. And with Frank not remembering the sequences upon awakening we don't get any introspective lines from him about the nightmare, Shannon, Trevor, or the phone call.

As for the "Fairy Abigail" dreams they convey the character's struggles with his growing attraction to his children, however since this is an adult game, the obvious end of it all is that Frank will choose to either fuck or not fuck his daughters (if the player is given an option otherwise they will be fucked), and the sequences end up losing quite a bit of their impact due to the medium. In addition, as a player, I don't care for lewd sequences in dreams or fantasies because they are not part of the character's reality. Seeing "Fairy Abigail" playing with Frank's dick in his dreams (or seeing him fantasize about fucking a pornstar) are unnecessary filler for a story which is strongest on building the emotional relationships of the characters. I'd want the dreams and fantasies to be cut so we could have more scenes of Frank interacting with his children or potential clients (he really must be a terrible Real Estate agent if he has one client at a time).

In the larger context of adult games I dislike dream sequences because very few are well-written. Most end up being a way to add in lewd content - such as when the MC fantasizes about having sex with other characters in the game - I'd rather wait to see the LI's naked in the MC's "real" life. Besides LOML the only other game I can think of that does dream sequences well (but not at the emotional level of LOML) is Sins of the Father. But those are more of an instructional/tutorial nature that is explaining to the MC, and player, how the MC's powers work and therefore how the game will work. Using dreams as a way to have expository dialogue works for me, especially when it deals with the sudden acquisition of "mysterious powers", within the reality of the game it doesn't make sense to have the MC learn that information from a long conversation with any of the other characters.

Anyway, my dissatisfaction with dream sequences is minuscule in the grand scheme of things. In this case chalk it up to my desire to see more emotional bonding between characters.
 
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Maviarab

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Let me preface this with the obvious disclaimer that this is only my opinion...

There are always exceptions to any rule but overall in the games I've played that have dream sequences they end up detracting from the story instead of adding to it. In this case the repeated nightmares that Frank had didn't add anything that a single flashback wouldn't have been able to accomplish just as well. Since Frank never remembered the nightmares the only reason for those sequences was to reemphasize Shannon's cheating to the audience. However, most players don't need to see the same scene repeatedly to understand the importance or to remember it. In addition, since we don't know who Trevor is in the larger context of the game, slowly revealing him to us over three dream sequences has no impact on the player. And with Frank not remembering the sequences upon awakening we don't get any introspective lines from him about the nightmare, Shannon, Trevor, or the phone call.

As for the "Fairy Abigail" dreams they convey the character's struggles with his growing attraction to his children, however since this is an adult game, the obvious end of it all is that Frank will choose to either fuck or not fuck his daughters (if the player is given an option otherwise they will be fucked), and the sequences end up losing quite a bit of their impact due to the medium. In addition, as a player, I don't care for lewd sequences in dreams or fantasies because they are not part of the character's reality. Seeing "Fairy Abigail" playing with Frank's dick in his dreams (or seeing him fantasize about fucking a pornstar) are unnecessary filler for a story which is strongest on building the emotional relationships of the characters. I'd want the dreams and fantasies to be cut so we could have more scenes of Frank interacting with his children or potential clients (he really must be a terrible Real Estate agent if he has one client at a time).

In the larger context of adult games I dislike dream sequences because very few are well-written. Most end up being a way to add in lewd content - such as when the MC fantasizes about having sex with other characters in the game - I'd rather wait to see the LI's naked in the MC's "real" life. Besides LOML the only other game I can think of that does dream sequences well (but not at the emotional level of LOML) is Sins of the Father. But those are more of an instructional/tutorial nature that is explaining to the MC, and player, how the MC's powers work and therefore how the game will work. Using dreams as a way to have expository dialogue works for me, especially when it deals with the sudden acquisition of "mysterious powers", within the reality of the game it doesn't make sense to have the MC learn that information from a long conversation with any of the other characters.

Anyway, my dissatisfaction with dream sequences is minuscule in the grand scheme of things. In this case chalk it up to my desire to see more emotional bonding between characters.

Can't say that I disagree with much there, petty spot on post in my opinion.
 

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Well I all comes down to personal preference, the way I view this type of games is, if all the girls have a relationship with the mc and are fine with it, and the mc can't be with all of them all the time, if they decide to have fun with someone in the harem is not a big deal for me. Also I find lesbian scenes really hot.
I only have a problem with it if a mc is never going to be with them when they do it or it's teased but never happens. Like in Alexandra or Freeloading Family, the two main girls had/are in a lesbian relationship but you never see it or it was off screen implied they did something once.
I've liked the idea of lesbian scenes more than the actual scenes. Despite how it might seem from my comments I don't dislike them, i just dislike them in these games. I just don't like the idea of sharing my girl(s) with anyone. I wouldn't mind if they had their action off camera so to speak. If the MC is part of the action it's a whole other story.

Like in freeloading family right near the beginning there is an option to stay at home and spy on the sister with one of the other girls or go out and let them have their fun without seeing anything. I could live with the second option. Watching them and not being able to join pissed me off.

I kind of get the concept of it being an open relationship with all of them and all having fun, it makes scenes, but I don't like it. I wouldn't mind it as much in games if there was the option to skip those scenes. Story wise they can still happen, i just don't want to see it.

I realise I'm probably beating a dead horse and nothing I say will change what the dev does, so I'm partly just venting and partly hoping to make enough noise that dev's take notice and consider it as an option.

Despite banging on at this drum my biggest disspointment with this game right now is I've finished the current content and it was just getting really good and interesting.
 
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