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Visionary25

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I am replaying the game again for I forget how many times. I found two scenes I have never seen before.(have you played every choice yet if not the game still has value and play time.
and as for the one who asked you can get just Mary without cloths sort of, Mary's top off on the couch and still have the girls covered.
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best pic I as able to get to show the answer.
Yup, I keep playing around with the values. Thus I had asked sometime ago if there's a route where just Mary gets progressively naked with the least input from Jo.
 
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sandstorm1872

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I am replaying the game again for I forget how many times. I found two scenes I have never seen before.(have you played every choice yet if not the game still has value and play time.
and as for the one who asked you can get just Mary without cloths sort of, Mary's top off on the couch and still have the girls covered.
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best pic I as able to get to show the answer.
IIRC, that pic is from the Mary-exclusive path. Then there's Nathalie exclusive and then there's Jo-Mary. You do get bit of Jo in Nathalie's path but not as much with Mary. I prefer the Mary X path, self Xplanatory :devilish:
 

LionHeart 95

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IIRC, that pic is from the Mary-exclusive path. Then there's Nathalie exclusive and then there's Jo-Mary. You do get bit of Jo in Nathalie's path but not as much with Mary. I prefer the Mary X path, self Xplanatory :devilish:
The pic was not of the ones I had yet to see, it was best pic for Mary only naked...
 

botc76

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Honestly, I'm a patron, I've been a fan of this game since the start, I know all about kaffekop's health problems, and frankly, I hate these instinctive white-knight reactions people have when it comes to games and devs they like.

I like kaffekop, his game is great, he seems like a genuinely funny and nice person, and it sucks that he has so many health issues.
Sometimes I read a new update on the patreon and am just glad he is still alive, and that is not a joke.

But if you overreact to humour and/or any attempt at criticism, that is not automatically helping the game or the dev.
All it does is create an atmosphere where people coming new into the thread or to the game and dare to be anything but completely supportive or positive, feel unwelcome, and that will probably also impact how they think and feel about the game and the dev.

There is such a thing as gallows humour or black humour, and you might like it or not, but it is still just humour. It might be an attempt to make a sombre topic less serious, it might just be the weird sense of humour someone has, it shouldn't be a reason to flip out over it.
 

jamdan

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He hasn't been online in a month and hasn't said anything on Patreon since May.

And with all his health issues, whenever he disappears for an extended period I assume he is sick again.

I think assuming the worst and hoping for the best is all you can do for a game like this.
 

botc76

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Almost two years since last update?
Multitude of reasons, almost solely in regard to Kaffekop's health.
The guy just never catches a break.
He does post about it on patreon from time to time, so we know that he is still going, he also did a rendered comic for a personal friend, for some time besides working on the game, don't know if anybody uploaded that.
It was okay, but not as good as SOTF, obviously.

I know it sucks to have to wait so long between updates that the game gets tagged as abandoned, but it's not like he is a scammer.
His patreon works per update, not per month or anything, so you only pay when he actually delivers an update.
(Not that it is that much anyway, that this could be anything but a passion project)
 
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lordofhirunds

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It does not seem to me that we have ever shot someone for some criticism of the game or a newcomer was ever told not to make criticism, we have always and simply said, this thread is made almost entirely by Kaffekop's friends and that knowing and cherishing the person of Kaffekop we do not ask when the next update but we say it will be when it will be but we do not tell off those who ask but with politely we explain , but allow us to turn our noses up at it when humor strikes the health of a friendly person who has suffered so much from life . When someone has made requests regarding changes or innovations regarding the game, it is normal that if a part of us does not like the proposals we say so politely. I believe that in all this time you will never find swearwords for those who propose modifications. This is just a clarification and nothing else.
 
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Mike D123123

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I know it sucks to have to wait so long between updates that the game gets tagged as abandoned, but it's not like he is a scammer.
His patreon works per update, not per month or anything, so you only pay when he actually delivers an update.
(Not that it is that much anyway, that this could be anything but a passion project)
**STRICTLY HYPOTHETICAL**
Just because he doesn't charge patrons monthly doesn't necessarily mean he isn't scamming people. A scam can be constructed using deception as it's foundation. Money isn't the only currency obtained here either. Support, attention and validation could also be on this list of attainment, after all, this world can be lonely for some. But those currencies could also provide a wealth of renewable energy, indefinitely if meticulously propagated. Benefits can still be gained. When someone gives excessive, unnecessary details after failing a pledge offers little ground for suspicion. Continually failing to meet these pledges over time with similar details could mean they're stalling, which compliments that suspicion. Once or twice, okay sure. But 20+ times over two years? He did say multiple times that he had finished .8 and gave release dates, he knows how long it has been for all of us. But then, after all that time, he decides to scrap all progress, refuses to release .8 for interest in animations and out of concern for us having to replay it all in the hypothetical '.9' release. The reasoning and logic behind this decision doesn't make any sense to me, it seems uncharacteristic of him, doesn't fit. With all these health issues mentioned it kinda makes you feel concern for him, even feel close to him with all his health updates. Does this feel like a healthy relationship to anyone? Should I even call it a relationship? He gives us details into his private life as if we're more than acquaintances, as if to establish a relationship, as if to create or attach emotional depth. I'm very familiar with abusive behavior and this sets off alarm bells to me. Let's not forget that kaffekop has also spent time in a mental institution, so psychological gymnastics like this is possible, highly unlikely, but still possible. He has publicly stated this fact so don't flame me about it okay?

The only progress seen in two years is an animated scene in an early chapter, sloppily thrown together in a matter of days. Everything else are seemingly empty promises, no results. You Cant rule out the possibility of this being a scam at this point.

I'll reiterate again this is STRICTLY HYPOTHETICAL.
 

AmitavaNathan

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I hope Kaffekop already thought out and penned his story in paper. Because the game is going on such a speed; that God Forbid, if something bad happen with Kaffe we will become sure that someone pick up his legacy and the show must go on!!!

Really Kaffe, please!!! Enough branching!!! Now, you should cut off on choices and move on to climax. There are three choices (Nat, Joe and Mary) already and that's enough. More choices are just complicated the story and time consuming. More choices mean more rendering and most of them are going to be locked content. What is the point of these. Just go ahead with the original and main storyline which you wrote before branching.
 
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Onetogo

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Really Kaffe, please!!! Enough branching!!! Now, you should cut off on choices and move on to climax. There are three choices (Nat, Joe and Mary) already and that's enough. More choices are just complicated the story and time consuming. More choices mean more rendering and most of them are going to be locked content. What is the point of these. Just go ahead with the original and main storyline which you wrote before branching.
Patience young grasshopper...it would be a shame to not have multiple paths.
 
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AmitavaNathan

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Patience young grasshopper...it would be a shame to not multiple paths.
Indeed I love these story. Normally, I'm not a fan of smut VNs. Instead, I watch porn (specially Brazzers!!!). But some VNs (Dream of Desire, The Visit, Occultus) have outstanding story and screenplay. Honestly, Kaffe defeat them all, except The Visit (Different Genre). Sin of The Father is a impressive story, and I love Urban Fantasy. Again, I'm afraid that if Kaffe continue carry on his locked content, the size of the game will be such a huge that playing on Android become a tough matter. that's only my concern!!!
 

BeastMaster59

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Any chance the game would be picked up by another developer and continued? It comes to mind after the awesome game Hot Sands of Antarctica was abandoned then someone else picked it up(Then the original dev came back).
It happens, but very seldom does.....Sadly.
 

jamdan

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Sad news, but this has felt inevitable for a while now. So it takes a lot of the disappointment out of it. Closure, more than anything.

I don't want another developer to finish it. To me, that's pretty much never a good idea and it doesn't work. Because then it'll no longer be the original story the developer wanted to create. It's a glorified fan game made by someone else.
 
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