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Cirdon

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I couldn't make it through. I got as far as Mira and The Stretcher getting to Ella and Ella just being vapid then rage quitting.

Way too much of the game spent with every single character other than the horse being useless idiots.
 
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I couldn't make it through. I got as far as Mira and The Stretcher getting to Ella and Ella just being vapid then rage quitting.

Way too much of the game spent with every single character other than the horse being useless idiots.
The style certainly won't be for everyone. Sorry, you didn't like it, mate. Thanks for giving it a try though and for the honest feedback.
 
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Cirdon

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The style certainly won't be for everyone. Sorry, you didn't like it, mate. Thanks for giving it a try though and for the honest feedback.
I enjoyed your previous game quite a bit, it was a good farcical romp. In this one it just went too far and went from fun farce to "i hate every character in the game"
 

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I enjoyed your previous game quite a bit, it was a good farcical romp. In this one it just went too far and went from fun farce to "i hate every character in the game"
Oh, okay. I'll have to look at what I did differently in terms of characterization, as I can't really identify it off the top of my head. I haven't really had any negative feedback concerning that until now.
 
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Just wanted to throw some things I liked about this game out there:

1. Love the art-style for the girls. Every main girl felt different and it wasn't just "Bimbo #1 with Blonde hair, Bimbo #2 with Brown hair, etc." Can't wait to see what the dev draws next.

2. Liked being able to skip combat (the story mode feature).

3. The story kept to simple motifs and didn't try to give me a George R.R. Martin backstory. I'm here for lewd stories, not for the re-telling of 'Remembrance of Things Past'.

4. Fetch-quests didn't feel too long? Idk, just by my gauge, seemed like everything was 2 screens away at most. I liked that.

Not necessarily complaints, but just ideas for the dev's future games:

1. Don't be afraid to mess with different genres. I think your art-style would fit things like pregnancy or incest very well. I know some will want NTR or Beasty stuff, not necessarily my thing, but branching out to all types of lewd stuff might be cool.

2. The random points where you couldn't run didn't ruin anything for me, just confusing? Lol, wasn't sure if it was the game or me.
 

Cirdon

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Oh, okay. I'll have to look at what I did differently in terms of characterization
I think it may be your trying to make this one longer and your being better at short snappy stories. I am sure that our hero gets his in the end, but, the straws that piled up:

  1. Endless battles, but you didn't get better at them. Neither the MC or companion increased their ability to vanquish monsters though the monster level and number both increased.
  2. Mira'a a bitch. That's her thing and fine, i get what that brings to the story. But both making the hero help her/fight to get the potion ingredient and then gratuitously offering up her fabulous ass when she knew she'd incapacitated the hero? Nope, fuck that bitch, I'm not going after her in the morning. I'll take my letter and head to the nearest town to see if they need the help of a hero. Maybe if you'd taken that path and a third friend came after the hero for help after Mira got captured.
If she'd had some remorseful dialogue after slipping the MC a mickey, instead of the whole "you can stretch me now" dialogue it might have salvaged her and made going after her in the morning make sense, but as it was, nope. Done with this.
 
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Just wanted to throw some things I liked about this game out there:

1. Love the art-style for the girls. Every main girl felt different and it wasn't just "Bimbo #1 with Blonde hair, Bimbo #2 with Brown hair, etc." Can't wait to see what the dev draws next.

2. Liked being able to skip combat (the story mode feature).

3. The story kept to simple motifs and didn't try to give me a George R.R. Martin backstory. I'm here for lewd stories, not for the re-telling of 'Remembrance of Things Past'.

4. Fetch-quests didn't feel too long? Idk, just by my gauge, seemed like everything was 2 screens away at most. I liked that.

Not necessarily complaints, but just ideas for the dev's future games:

1. Don't be afraid to mess with different genres. I think your art-style would fit things like pregnancy or incest very well. I know some will want NTR or Beasty stuff, not necessarily my thing, but branching out to all types of lewd stuff might be cool.

2. The random points where you couldn't run didn't ruin anything for me, just confusing? Lol, wasn't sure if it was the game or me.
Thanks for the feedback! Glad you liked it.

As for the ideas:

Next game is going to be more open in terms of structure, and I want to try different genres. I honestly don't have any experience with pregnancy, incest, NTR, or Beast stuff, either as a player or a developer (I'm pretty new to everything porn game related, actually haha), but I do want to start exploring everything in future games.

I wasn't aware of any parts where you couldn't run. That's odd.
 
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I think it may be your trying to make this one longer and your being better at short snappy stories. I am sure that our hero gets his in the end, but, the straws that piled up:

  1. Endless battles, but you didn't get better at them. Neither the MC or companion increased their ability to vanquish monsters though the monster level and number both increased.
  2. Mira'a a bitch. That's her thing and fine, i get what that brings to the story. But both making the hero help her/fight to get the potion ingredient and then gratuitously offering up her fabulous ass when she knew she'd incapacitated the hero? Nope, fuck that bitch, I'm not going after her in the morning. I'll take my letter and head to the nearest town to see if they need the help of a hero. Maybe if you'd taken that path and a third friend came after the hero for help after Mira got captured.
If she'd had some remorseful dialogue after slipping the MC a mickey, instead of the whole "you can stretch me now" dialogue it might have salvaged her and made going after her in the morning make sense, but as it was, nope. Done with this.
Yeh, the combat was a problem because the maps aren't big enough. Dungeon maps just weren't long enough for the player to have to worry about supplies and things like that, which is something I want to improve upon.

I didn't do any leveling because I felt there wasn't enough enemy encounters in the game to warrant it. Again, bigger maps would help here. Really going to try and do the combat better in the next game.

With Mira, Stretchalot is very bound to his oaths. Mira could have damn near killed him and he still would have given up everything to go after her and try to help her. It's part of his character. That said, I can see how Mira and her actions might piss some people off. I'll try to be more careful with characters like that in future.
 

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about mira, I think you should read tower of god.. and see bam chasing after and helping the stupid blonde girl.. you fucking seethe with hatred for her and you end up cursing bam and his stupid 'quest' to 'save' her.. because he just is too obsessed to use his brain and see what and who she really is.. a disgusting, ugly, manipulative, murdering, psychopath.. all for the sake of achieving her goal..
( really do think the author loves her and who knows, maybe the author secretly wants to have all of her inhumane qualities, so she gets all the special chances to screw bam and his friends over.. srsly, she is the most garbage character I've ever read about in any manga, manhwa, manhua, etc..)

it is probably close to what Cirdon is mentioning to you.. if you haven't read it, you really should.. so you know what not to do in a story..

The only reason tower of god is so good is that bam gets stronger and there is so much going on.. all kinds of crazy plot twists and crazy characters.. and the stupid blonde girl isn't in the story a lot.. so that is good..
..but when she is, you really want to impale her head on a pike or just anything..
but no, the author isn't good at dealing with her, and the author even gives her ridiculous powerful allies and items.. and the plot armor is unreal..
in the end, I really believe the author loves the stupid blonde girl..
she was only necessary at first, so that bam entered the tower and probably after a hundred or less chapters she would have been irrelevant, but the author continued bam's obsession to 'save' her for another 2 hundred or so more chapters..
or maybe 3 hundred, I forgot..

but srsly you should read it, and see what I mean about how to not make a hated character
 

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about mira, I think you should read tower of god.. and see bam chasing after and helping the stupid blonde girl.. you fucking seethe with hatred for her and you end up cursing bam and his stupid 'quest' to 'save' her.. because he just is too obsessed to use his brain and see what and who she really is.. a disgusting, ugly, manipulative, murdering, psychopath.. all for the sake of achieving her goal..
( really do think the author loves her and who knows, maybe the author secretly wants to have all of her inhumane qualities, so she gets all the special chances to screw bam and his friends over.. srsly, she is the most garbage character I've ever read about in any manga, manhwa, manhua, etc..)

it is probably close to what Cirdon is mentioning to you.. if you haven't read it, you really should.. so you know what not to do in a story..

The only reason tower of god is so good is that bam gets stronger and there is so much going on.. all kinds of crazy plot twists and crazy characters.. and the stupid blonde girl isn't in the story a lot.. so that is good..
..but when she is, you really want to impale her head on a pike or just anything..
but no, the author isn't good at dealing with her, and the author even gives her ridiculous powerful allies and items.. and the plot armor is unreal..
in the end, I really believe the author loves the stupid blonde girl..
she was only necessary at first, so that bam entered the tower and probably after a hundred or less chapters she would have been irrelevant, but the author continued bam's obsession to 'save' her for another 2 hundred or so more chapters..
or maybe 3 hundred, I forgot..

but srsly you should read it, and see what I mean about how to not make a hated character
Thanks for the comment. I'll check out Tower of God at some point. I hadn't heard of it before. Blonde girl sounds truly annoying haha.
 
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Thanks for the comment. I'll check out Tower of God at some point. I hadn't heard of it before. Blonde girl sounds truly annoying haha.
Theres an anime out, her name is Rachel I think its 12 or 13 episodes long?
but yeah, theres a few good reasons that shes despised.
but its also partly the MCs fault for being such a simp, but its also somewhat understandable.
its a really good Anime (I havent read the mahwa nor do I plan too)
 
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real67754

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Here are some bugs I found.

  • In version 1.1, when doing Mira's quest, I was traveling to the northern bandits. Along the way, a snake started chasing me. When the cutscene started, the snake got right behind me, but couldn't attack because it was a cutscene. At the end of the cutscene, Mira tried to get behind me, but couldn't because the snake was there. The game ended up soft-locked and I had to close the program. I haven't tested it in version 1.4.
  • In version 1.1, after completing both Mira's and Ella's quests, I couldn't progress, but after downloading version 1.4 and loading an older save, I could progress.
  • In version 1.4, after stretching the queen, when she gave her panties, they weren't blue.
  • In both 1.1 and 1.4, the game would randomly crash and close. It seemed to only happen in a cutscene, but I can't say for sure. The first time was when I was waiting to meet the queen. The second (or third. can't remember) was when I was talking to the lieutenants before confronting the Bandit Boss in the cave HQ. Not sure what causes this, just be sure to save often.

After playing The Wenches in the Well, this one had me thinking that I'd have to play multiple times to get all the scenes as it had more choices and the intro mentioned the one that got away, so I thought I had to make a choice. Given how long the game was, I'm glad I didn't have to do it over again. Even with story mode and the skip button, I think it wouldn't been painful.
I save a lot, so I'd like more than 5 save slots. In hind-sight, now knowing the game is linear and knowing of the skip button, having only 5 slots is not a big deal. Without knowing those, it was a little annoying at the time.

I like booba, so in that aspect, I liked the CG in The Wenches in the Well more. The art in this one is nice, but in almost all the CG, the hotties are either wearing shirts, angled away, or both. It'd be nice to have more toplessness for the hotties.

Overall, I enjoyed it. Can't wait for the next installment.
 

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Here are some bugs I found.

  • In version 1.1, when doing Mira's quest, I was traveling to the northern bandits. Along the way, a snake started chasing me. When the cutscene started, the snake got right behind me, but couldn't attack because it was a cutscene. At the end of the cutscene, Mira tried to get behind me, but couldn't because the snake was there. The game ended up soft-locked and I had to close the program. I haven't tested it in version 1.4.
  • In version 1.1, after completing both Mira's and Ella's quests, I couldn't progress, but after downloading version 1.4 and loading an older save, I could progress.
  • In version 1.4, after stretching the queen, when she gave her panties, they weren't blue.
  • In both 1.1 and 1.4, the game would randomly crash and close. It seemed to only happen in a cutscene, but I can't say for sure. The first time was when I was waiting to meet the queen. The second (or third. can't remember) was when I was talking to the lieutenants before confronting the Bandit Boss in the cave HQ. Not sure what causes this, just be sure to save often.

After playing The Wenches in the Well, this one had me thinking that I'd have to play multiple times to get all the scenes as it had more choices and the intro mentioned the one that got away, so I thought I had to make a choice. Given how long the game was, I'm glad I didn't have to do it over again. Even with story mode and the skip button, I think it wouldn't been painful.
I save a lot, so I'd like more than 5 save slots. In hind-sight, now knowing the game is linear and knowing of the skip button, having only 5 slots is not a big deal. Without knowing those, it was a little annoying at the time.

I like booba, so in that aspect, I liked the CG in The Wenches in the Well more. The art in this one is nice, but in almost all the CG, the hotties are either wearing shirts, angled away, or both. It'd be nice to have more toplessness for the hotties.

Overall, I enjoyed it. Can't wait for the next installment.
Thanks for the feedback, mate.

Looks like I had Ella's panties mixed up with the queen's during that scene. Will be fixed in a later update.

The bug where the snake ruined a cutscene . . . I'm not sure how that happened as there's things in place to prevent that: enemies get respawned at their original locations when starting a scene. You said northern bandits. Was it the gang of drunk bandits you encounter?

Not too sure about the crashes. Maybe I'm using too many plugins or something. I'll need to try and trim things down a bit going further.

The one that got away reference at the start was because it was a flashback. That scene replays at the end of the game as well.

I'm adding the help section to the very start of a new game so that people will know about the speed up functions and other things.

Sounds like the branching dialog probably isn't what people want. It is a lot easier to keep it more linear like in Wenches in the Well.

Good point about the boobs. More boobs going forward. I think other than the scene with the queen, you don't even see boobs.

I'm glad you liked the game over all!
 
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