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rouge_g

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Okay, I see you're responding rapidfire so I'll just make another post instead of editing the previous lol

Next game is going to be more open in terms of structure, and I want to try different genres. I honestly don't have any experience with pregnancy, incest, NTR, or Beast stuff, either as a player or a developer (I'm pretty new to everything porn game related, actually haha), but I do want to start exploring everything in future games.
I notice you were already given a heads up on NTR, which is good because this forum does have a lot of vocal critics about the genre in general. There's a lot of subtlety to it, not all of it is even cheating considering it sometimes involves consent by the other partner, swinging, and even applied to non-romantic partners and friends having sex with someone else. Some people are just that adverse to any dick besides their self-insert being involved. There's already some who would take issue with Wenches in the Well and Plight of the Elves because of Old Fred and Ella's 'chats' respectively. Just keep that in mind if you decide to take a hard 'no NTR/Cheating' stance, the fans of that level of vanilla will already be unhappy with the current level of promiscuity in these games. Not a goal worth chasing over, imo.

Also, I'm pretty sure Patreon might shut you down over incest and bestiality. Regarding incest, it's easiest to tweak the dialogue to not be incest and provide a link offsight of Patreon for an incest patch to change the dialogue. As for bestiality (I assume you meant by 'beast stuff'), if you keep things in the realm of 'monster girl' like the Water Nymphs from before, Patreon won't care. It's when things get much closer to real animals, especially anatomically, that things get tricky. There's plenty of furry stuff on Patreon that manages to avoid detection, so a mild level of discretion and you should be fine.
 

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Okay, I see you're responding rapidfire so I'll just make another post instead of editing the previous lol



I notice you were already given a heads up on NTR, which is good because this forum does have a lot of vocal critics about the genre in general. There's a lot of subtlety to it, not all of it is even cheating considering it sometimes involves consent by the other partner, swinging, and even applied to non-romantic partners and friends having sex with someone else. Some people are just that adverse to any dick besides their self-insert being involved. There's already some who would take issue with Wenches in the Well and Plight of the Elves because of Old Fred and Ella's 'chats' respectively. Just keep that in mind if you decide to take a hard 'no NTR/Cheating' stance, the fans of that level of vanilla will already be unhappy with the current level of promiscuity in these games. Not a goal worth chasing over, imo.

Also, I'm pretty sure Patreon might shut you down over incest and bestiality. Regarding incest, it's easiest to tweak the dialogue to not be incest and provide a link offsight of Patreon for an incest patch to change the dialogue. As for bestiality (I assume you meant by 'beast stuff'), if you keep things in the realm of 'monster girl' like the Water Nymphs from before, Patreon won't care. It's when things get much closer to real animals, especially anatomically, that things get tricky. There's plenty of furry stuff on Patreon that manages to avoid detection, so a mild level of discretion and you should be fine.
Yeh, the NTR stuff just doesn't sound like something I'd actually wanna write, so I'll probably steer clear of it. Maybe my mind will change on that some day, who knows.

Same with beastiality and incest stuff. Just not my thing. I haven't played many porn games though, and at some point I'll probably stumble across games with this content. Maybe that'll get me interested haha. I imagine I'll have to do some stuff that pushes towards beastiality, like if I do mice or werewolf girls or something, but, like you said, there's plenty of that content already on Patreon and I'll just not have to push it too far.
 

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Well it's a good thing the art is great, because the dialogue is painfully unfunny, and the gameplay is irritatingly slow. I would recommend something to unlock all the content, or maybe implement a -much faster- dialogue skip. Can't say I understand the choice of RPGM, either. Seems like there's so very little gameplay worth having that it may as well just be a VN... but I guess that's already been noted.
For maybe a little more constructive criticism, I'd say remember who the general audience of this game is. If you want to make an RPG for the story and gameplay, nix the porn content and have at it, but if you're going to throw that in, don't forget what most people play these games for - the slow payoff will be a detriment, imo.
Those games that tread the line of being "legitimate" and naughty make me scratch my head more often than not, because very few of them (in my experience) can pull it off well enough to keep both audiences interested. There are hundreds of games that do story and gameplay that they could play instead, so unless you're shitting gold with something truly unique, the porn, the amount of it, and whatever variety of kink you subscribe to, is what keeps that side interested... just my 2 cents, though.
 
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Well it's a good thing the art is great, because the dialogue is painfully unfunny, and the gameplay is irritatingly slow. I would recommend something to unlock all the content, or maybe implement a -much faster- dialogue skip. Can't say I understand the choice of RPGM, either. Seems like there's so very little gameplay worth having that it may as well just be a VN... but I guess that's already been noted.
For maybe a little more constructive criticism, I'd say remember who the general audience of this game is. If you want to make an RPG for the story and gameplay, nix the porn content and have at it, but if you're going to throw that in, don't forget what most people play these games for - the slow payoff will be a detriment, imo.
Those games that tread the line of being "legitimate" and naughty make me scratch my head more often than not, because very few of them (in my experience) can pull it off well enough to keep both audiences interested. There are hundreds of games that do story and gameplay that they could play instead, so unless you're shitting gold with something truly unique, the porn, the amount of it, and whatever variety of kink you subscribe to, is what keeps that side interested... just my 2 cents, though.
Thanks for elaborating a bit more.

Few things:

The way to skip dialog is by holding Q. It also speeds the game up 5x. I'm guessing you didn't know this because it doesn't say this anywhere other than the help section. This was a mistake on my part. It should explain this and other functions such as F4 to toggle windowed/fullscreen when players start a new game. I'll be adding this note and other stuff in an update.

I'm going to add an unlock gallery option as well for people who want it.

I don't want to nix the porn content. I want to probably focus more on it going forward and make things move along a lot faster. I still want to tell stories in my games, but I would rather them be shorter and snappier. I write better shorter anyway. This game has 60k words all up across all branching dialog. It was fun to write, but it was more than I like to manage for one set story.

This is only my second game and I've only really played 3 or 4 hentai games all up, so I'm still exploring things and finding my feet with it all. Will be focusing more on the balance and gameplay in game 3!
 
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About the dialogue, and just to clarify some more, I felt like the joke was well beaten to death by about 10 minutes in. More variety would have helped, or if you don't feel too confident about writing in that fashion, maybe take a more serious tone instead. Just my opinion, though. Others might have liked it more than I did... which wouldn't be unusual.
 

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About the dialogue, and just to clarify some more, I felt like the joke was well beaten to death by about 10 minutes in. More variety would have helped, or if you don't feel too confident about writing in that fashion, maybe take a more serious tone instead. Just my opinion, though. Others might have liked it more than I did... which wouldn't be unusual.
Most of the feedback that I've gotten regarding the writing has been over positive, but I know it won't appeal to everyone. I generally prefer to write light-hearted, comedy stuff, but at some point I'll do something more serious.

I think the shorter the story the better the writing will come off. We'll see about that in the next game.

Thanks for all the feedback!
 
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Apple_Tart_Games

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Yo, everyone.

I've updated Plight of the Elves to V1.4.

Most of the additions and fixes came due to feedback received in this thread, so thanks for all that!

Extract it and then in the main folder click on PlightOfTheElves.exe to play!

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To use saves from previous versions, find the "save" folder in the older version inside the "WWW" folder and copy and paste that over into the "WWW" folder in the latest version.

CHANGE LOG:
ADDITIONS:
⦁ Added Remember Last Used Command during combat to the Options menu.
⦁ Added Always Dash option in Options Menu.
⦁ Added Unlocker to title menu. Allows you to unlock all Gallery content.
⦁ Added Help section to game start sequence. Also added option to review before game start.
⦁ Added more to Help section.

FIXES:
⦁ Fixed when collecting Queen’s panties, SS now holds up correct panties. Was Ella’s before.
⦁ Fixed missing sprite tiles.
⦁ Fixed issue where a snake could interrupt a particular cutscene.
⦁ Fixed missing cumshot effect/sound during first scene with Ella.
⦁ Changed preloading to only preload important files in the Picture folder. Decreasing loading time at start of the game and should reduce ram usage when playing as well.
 

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"animated"
if crossfading 3 pictures is animation.....sure

in that case i guess im an "animator"
 

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good job with the game man, also iv'e seen that style of RPG maker in other games, zombie park and the bsdm one, is that a plugin or specific version?

I couldn't find any game called Zombie Park when I googled, but if you're talking about the sprites, then it's because I use a lot of Time Fantasy sprites and then draw and tweak them a lot to get what I want.
 

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What does "Group sex" and "Monster" entail?
I didn't make this thread or decide those tags, so not really sure. There's a threesome in the game, if you want to consider that group sex? I probably wouldn't.

There's no proper monster girls in this one. Only elven girls, which aren't monsters to me. My first Sir Stretchalot game, "The Wenches in the Well" does feature water/slime girls though. If you're interested in that, it's $1 on Steam or Itch, or available in this thread:

https://f95zone.to/threads/sir-stretchalot-the-wenches-in-the-well-v23062021-apple-tart-games.70909/


"animated"
if crossfading 3 pictures is animation.....sure

in that case i guess im an "animator"
I usually only crossfade 2 pictures as it somehow looks better with the fading effects.

And yeh, I suppose you're an animator.
 
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I don't know what Joiplay is. Have you tried the 1.4 versions here?

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I've no experience with it, however from what I've seen it's a program for Android phones to play RPGM games.
 
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Great game good humour shoulda a necked the bandit when we had the chance.

Crashes randomly at times though mate.
 

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Great game good humour shoulda a necked the bandit when we had the chance.

Crashes randomly at times though mate.
Thanks. Glad you liked it!

Not sure what causes those crashes. Maybe I've got too many plugins and stuff going. next game I'll try and keep it all a bit lighter!
 
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Had some crashes and softlocks but it was fine after I found the 1.4 version.
The artwork is great, the characters are charming and I thought the writing was fun and goofy.
Short and simple but solid overall.
 
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