FreelancerFL

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Because I patreoned that guy for like a year, 8 years ago, thinking that someday he would give us some proper blackmail, mindbreak, pregnancy, ahegao, and instead he has only made a business out of wringing rookies that love to get cucked thinking they'll ever see actual plot for main heroines.

I wanted to admit on my previous post, that was some pretty good ahegao, even if it didn't have any expression changes. I guess after all this time he did release proper ahegao in like 4 scenes.
But what am I saying, I know this guy's MO. He releases good scenes once every year to fuel the dying fire every now and then.

I hate it when after 2k pages of people putting up with this dev, there's always someone new like "I don't get it, why are some people so hateful!!? This looks decent. I'm sure in one year he'll finish the game and there'll be mindbreak and submission and pregnancy. One year one year tops. Be understanding guys!! He's only one guy who's been earning a miserly 4000k a month for 8 FUCKING YEARS!!. "

To think when I was a paton I suggested the idea that he should move from Lex and move the story to Darkseid enslaving and breaking powerwomen, thinking that that might actually happen. That was like 7 years ago.

Or a faceless isekai MC to replace Lex, honestly sick of seeing his smug face get a nut off.
 

lonelyandfool

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Another hilarious (and sad) example is artemis. What the fuck happened? Someone please tell me there's at least an attempt at an explanation in the story for why she got bimboified.
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A while back Sunset did a survey about what bodies do the patreons like: tall, short, big, medium and/or small boobs, asses, waist, muscular, not muscular, fit but not too muscular... etc.

And I don't know what was the result.
But for me a strengh of this game is the diversity in women's bodies and losing that is renouncing to a main pillar of it.
 

Zane11

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Oct 31, 2021
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I see lots of complaints about the art and while there are some differences indeed, for me that's secondary because I think the art is still good.

I suppose everyone has different priorities when it comes to the game, but my main complaint has been the same since more than 2 years ago. If anything, I feel it's even more relevant now.

For me the problem is the sheer number of characters and almost complete lack of plot advancement...
  • The first keeps getting worse. 2 years ago, you could argue there were maybe too many characters. Today it's almost hard to keep track and remember which ladies are even in the game...

  • The second keeps showing little progress, if any. Yes there are some storylines added, like Themiscyra, but they are almost standalone events. I'd love for the devs to do something to either interconnect these storylines or just show some impact for Lex's actions. We capture more and more ladies, fuck them and then forget about them. How about someone finds out Lex's plot? How about Lex uses his corrupted ladies to achieve some goal? Like anything... I'm the opposite of the guy who likes too much story in his porn, but this is the opposite extreme...
Anyhow, just wanted to get this off my chest :p
 

Testerguy19

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One of the main issues I take is still the ongoing problems with the vault scenes...take for example Terra's naked sex scene in her BG private room still shows her on with clothes, some of the girls in Gotham event sex + anal are locked, yacht sex scenes are also locked for a few girls too every update even though I've done it many times over and over and it still remains the same. I'm just wondering if he ports the game to RenPy like how others have attempted it would be much better and consistent, if we're not talking about art or story wise.
 

gnd53

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He's not a bad artist, he's just an extremely lazy artist. However the artwork from the current update has too many random inconsistencies for me to believe that it's not AI generated.
Have you ever made AI art yourself? I have, and I'm telling you the way he puts his assets together is just incompatible with the way current models work.

Yes, there are a few LORAs trained on sunsetriders artstyle ( , ) but they're not particularly great. Honestly they mostly look like shit. I also sincerely doubt he's training his own LORAs, it's not easy and he's just not that technically savvy.

Importantly, though, is the fact that sunset makes heavy use of layers to organize poses and costumes. Modern image generation AI doesn't work this way. It generates whole images. You can "inpaint" which means to choose a section of the image and have it regenerated with a different prompt, but that's not going to be on a separate layer.

When you extract the assets from the game you'll see what I'm talking about. He exports layers from his composition and recomposes them in the game. This is what the asset files actually look like. AI doesn't generate layers that you can export individually. assets Large.jpeg
 

SoulFoZoid

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Have you ever made AI art yourself? I have, and I'm telling you the way he puts his assets together is just incompatible with the way current models work.

Yes, there are a few LORAs trained on sunsetriders artstyle ( , ) but they're not particularly great. Honestly they mostly look like shit. I also sincerely doubt he's training his own LORAs, it's not easy and he's just not that technically savvy.
At least post the Lora that's actually good that I'm contributing towards.
Not those very bad trained examples.



My own loras



 

Capuchonnoir

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Have you ever made AI art yourself? I have, and I'm telling you the way he puts his assets together is just incompatible with the way current models work.

Yes, there are a few LORAs trained on sunsetriders artstyle ( , ) but they're not particularly great. Honestly they mostly look like shit. I also sincerely doubt he's training his own LORAs, it's not easy and he's just not that technically savvy.

Importantly, though, is the fact that sunset makes heavy use of layers to organize poses and costumes. Modern image generation AI doesn't work this way. It generates whole images. You can "inpaint" which means to choose a section of the image and have it regenerated with a different prompt, but that's not going to be on a separate layer.

When you extract the assets from the game you'll see what I'm talking about. He exports layers from his composition and recomposes them in the game. This is what the asset files actually look like. AI doesn't generate layers that you can export individually. View attachment 3785611
That said, a decent artist could easily use AI to make a character and then decompose it in into layers and fill in the blanks.
 
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gnd53

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At least post the Lora that's actually good that I'm contributing towards.
Not those very bad trained examples.



My own loras




Those do look better! Your character-specific LORAs especially. That style LORA also looks very nice, but doesn't stick to the SU style quite as closely (other than the fact that it seems extremely strongly trained on the lex body, which isn't surprising given it's probably featured in just about every piece of training data).

Trying to decompose those generated images into pieces that you can use as dolls for posing would be a nightmare, and it's obvious that's not what sunset is doing.

But thanks for pointing me to these LORAs. I'll be playing around with them when I get some free time! Honestly with a bit of work these should be able to put out better images than what sunset has given us over the last few years.
 

cael

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May 3, 2017
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I'm running into an issue where I can't load or select any of my slots and it auto load me into save slot 2...not sure if anyone knows a fix?
 
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