VN Ren'Py Stormside [v0.23.1.4] [Atemsiel]

[Tiur]

Is it sure the requireemnt is 21+?. The scene triggered for 31+ for me

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[Tiur]

It is what it is I suppose. Luckily you're right, it is a vocal minority. I'm not a fan of NTR, so the girls won't be getting stolen or anything, but personally I think it's hot when they fool around among themselves.

I mean, ffs, in the sex shop scene, Cassie literally tells Riley to pretend it's the MC fucking her and not the toy. The whole point of that scene is Riley trying to train herself to take the MC, while pretending that's not actually what she's doing, despite Cassie knowing very very clearly that it is.. I absolutely detest NTR, but how that's "NTR" by anyone's imagination is beyond me.

 

[basilmidmight]

Can anybody drop hints as to where the onion is in the hallway with the sisters?

 

[Atemsiel]

Atemsiel How come the mc is paying for college himself instead of using a GI bill?

Because I guess he doesn't qualify for the GI bill for whatever reason. (Or more accurately, I'm not American, and completely forgot the GI bill existed lol. Maybe it doesn't in 2032 when the game's set. Who knows. I'm not really thinking about every aspect since it's a porn game. As long as the story generally makes sense, I'm happy.

damn what an awesome new game, congrats to the author - hope you find alot of success on the great start

Thanks man, glad you liked it. This update has been mostly well received, so that's encouraging.

jeezz your kidding me ... the time spent on the dam phone is insane ....

Yeah I do worry about it sometimes. I'm curious how far you got before you decided there was too much phone, but yes, the phone is featured pretty heavily. Sorry you didn't like it.

I mean, ffs, in the sex shop scene, Cassie literally tells Riley to pretend it's the MC fucking her and not the toy. The whole point of that scene is Riley trying to train herself to take the MC, while pretending that's not actually what she's doing, despite Cassie knowing very very clearly that it is.. I absolutely detest NTR, but how that's "NTR" by anyone's imagination is beyond me.

As it turns out, the game became a brief topic of discussion in that big "Everything is NTR" off topic harem discussion. The general consensus was that because Cassie mentioned to Riley (While the MC is spying) that she'd given a handjob before that one time, Cassie was no longer a virgin, and therefore is worthless. For some reason they also said that she keeps bringing it up? Pretty sure it only happens that one time, and then possibly one more if you decide to keep all the data about the girls pasts (Which I'd assume you wouldn't do if you were sensitive enough to feel cucked by something that happened like 4 years before you even met Cassie..)

It also seemed like they were specifically making choices in the game that were very obviously going to result in things they don't want to see, and then framed the game as if these things will always happen. (Like quoting some of the things that Cassie says if opt in for lesbian stuff, while also saying that nobody wants to see lesbian stuff? What?)

Actually this was all just one guy, but almost everyone else there seemed to just accept what he said as fact. Not sure what their deal is, but it became apparent from reading it that there wasn't anything to be gained from trying to talk to that demographic. None of this nonesnse will affect how the game is made.

Can anybody drop hints as to where the onion is in the hallway with the sisters?

Assuming you're talking about Akemi and Hikari, check the doorframes in the background. Not all onions are in focus.

 

[basilmidmight]

Because I guess he doesn't qualify for the GI bill for whatever reason. (Or more accurately, I'm not American, and completely forgot the GI bill existed lol. Maybe it doesn't in 2032 when the game's set. Who knows. I'm not really thinking about every aspect since it's a porn game. As long as the story generally makes sense, I'm happy.



Thanks man, glad you liked it. This update has been mostly well received, so that's encouraging.



Yeah I do worry about it sometimes. I'm curious how far you got before you decided there was too much phone, but yes, the phone is featured pretty heavily. Sorry you didn't like it.



As it turns out, the game became a brief topic of discussion in that big "Everything is NTR" off topic harem discussion. The general consensus was that because Cassie mentioned to Riley (While the MC is spying) that she'd given a handjob before that one time, Cassie was no longer a virgin, and therefore is worthless. For some reason they also said that she keeps bringing it up? Pretty sure it only happens that one time, and then possibly one more if you decide to keep all the data about the girls pasts (Which I'd assume you wouldn't do if you were sensitive enough to feel cucked by something that happened like 4 years before you even met Cassie..)

It also seemed like they were specifically making choices in the game that were very obviously going to result in things they don't want to see, and then framed the game as if these things will always happen. (Like quoting some of the things that Cassie says if opt in for lesbian stuff, while also saying that nobody wants to see lesbian stuff? What?)

Actually this was all just one guy, but almost everyone else there seemed to just accept what he said as fact. Not sure what their deal is, but it became apparent from reading it that there wasn't anything to be gained from trying to talk to that demographic. None of this nonesnse will affect how the game is made.



Assuming you're talking about Akemi and Hikari, check the doorframes in the background. Not all onions are in focus.

Thank you for the hint and thank you so much this update has really fleshed out where I think you are going wiht this and hjas worled it's way 9oitno my personal top 10, finally supplanting an incomplete gmae that hasn't received an update in almost 4 years. If I ever have the abilty to support any developers again I think you may have gone to the top of the list.

 

[rogokin]

The game is great DEV looking forward to your next release!

 

[iC4v3M4n]

Onion guide updated here, just two this time tho pretty hard to spot

 

[d_pedestrian]

You... are given the choice if Cassie continues to do anything with Riley.

But they already did things in the past which Cassie mentions quite a bit of it like Riley is very sensitive down there. I don't think it's all fine just because it's a girl and not a boy who says these things.

And people are allowed to have relationships before the MC features in their lives.

Sure but then they don't have to talk about those things. It doesn't make them look better.

From the stats you're given in the game, there's only one girl who isn't a virgin at the current point and she's the one who would corrode your dick with her personality anyway.

There are 2. Out of remaining 5 two girls gave handjobs before so they do have some experience. Riley had sex with Cassie. Don't know about remaining 2 virgin girls.

Sure, Cassie mentions a handjob she gave years ago before she even knew MC, but if that's enough for someone to feel cucked then this isn't the game for them.

So there are going to be more such dialogues from girls? I'm going to ignore Riley and Cassie. I can ignore these two girls. Right?

I hope Taliya won't talk about her past.

and they are also allowed to whore themselves all over the planet, which isn't hypocritical at all, and that is just fine, and totally NOT cucking their LI.

Ever heard about the word FANTASY?

In short, they are the most pathetic collection of incels you're likely to meet, and deserves as much consideration.

I can't defend my point anymore. Let's call them Incels Haha.

Some parts of the game are just there for story progression, and not intended to play to peoples preferences.

Let's mention a girl is a virgin but gave handjobs before because REALISM. Also make girls bi because that's also VERY REAL. Afterall there are more bi than straight girls in this world. Right?

You weren't there, Cassie's bi, and they ended up experimenting a bit.

Riley knew MC is alive and is going to come back. She used to get biweekly updates from MC's dad. Also, a girl won't turn lesbian just because she's not fucking. Sexuality doesn't work that way.

have you nothing else to do? like, look in the mirror? or watch your weight? or call mom (in the next room)?

Personal attacks? Atleast your small peepee will be proud of you now

 

[Atemsiel]

But they already did things in the past which Cassie mentions quite a bit of it like Riley is very sensitive down there. I don't think it's all fine just because it's a girl and not a boy who says these things.

She only says this to you if you decide to give her permission to continue the lesbian stuff. If you're not into girls getting it on, you can just tell Cassie to knock it off.

Sure but then they don't have to talk about those things. It doesn't make them look better.

Cassie tells Riley that she gave a guy a handjob once, because it kinda makes sense given what they're talking about. It's girl talk. She doesn't know that MC is spying on them. Sure she could have not said it, but I'm not making the game to cater to a specifc kind of people. She also mentions it once more later on if you decide not to clear their sexual history data, but if you're the sort of person who gets offended by what girls have done in the past, there's no way you'd decide to keep that data unless you were specifically looking for something to complain about.

There are 2. Out of remaining 5 two girls gave handjobs before so they do have some experience. Riley had sex with Cassie. Don't know about remaining 2 virgin girls.

The girls virgin status in the game is purely dependant on whether they've had sexual intercourse by its technical definition. Because the definition is a bit foggy when it comes to lesbian interaction, I'm basing it on hetrosexual definition. Cassie and Riley have engaged in oral sex in the past, so if you consider that to be sexual intercourse then you're right, they're not virgins. Most people don't though, so I've listed them as virgins.

So there are going to be more such dialogues from girls? I'm going to ignore Riley and Cassie. I can ignore these two girls. Right?

I hope Taliya won't talk about her past.

Taliya's past is an important part of her story, and will be coming up. It's not intended to cause jealousy, but more to help you understand her character. The specifics of her sexual past are not likely to be explored, but the circumstances that lead to them will be.

Let's mention a girl is a virgin but gave handjobs before because REALISM. Also make girls bi because that's also VERY REAL. Afterall there are more bi than straight girls in this world. Right?

The vast majority of people do not equate giving a handjob to loss of virginity. I made Cassie bi because it allows me to make lesbian scenes, which I like. If people don't like them, they can tell her to knock it off.

Riley knew MC is alive and is going to come back. She used to get biweekly updates from MC's dad. Also, a girl won't turn lesbian just because she's not fucking. Sexuality doesn't work that way.

Riley had a crush when she was a teenager, and then didn't see you for years. It's entirely reasonable for her feelings to fade during that time, and be rekindled when you return. She's also never recipricated Cassie's lesbian stuff because she's not comfortable doing that kind of stuff to another girl.

It doesn't sound like this is the game you're looking for. The characters in this game aren't perfect virgins who have never heard of sex before you came into the picture. What happens in future updates will depend on the players choices, but may include some things that aren't entirely realistic. Choice is a key theme.

 

[Jimayo]

Because I guess he doesn't qualify for the GI bill for whatever reason. (Or more accurately, I'm not American, and completely forgot the GI bill existed lol. Maybe it doesn't in 2032 when the game's set. Who knows. I'm not really thinking about every aspect since it's a porn game. As long as the story generally makes sense, I'm happy.

A thought that occurred to me after I ask is that this foundation thing is in between high school and college, am I right? Sort of a punch up of your high school grades so you qualify for college? Cause I could totally see the GI bill not apply to that type of program but only to actual college courses.

BTW, not american either, just well familiar with american politics.

 

[Atemsiel]

A thought that occurred to me after I ask is that this foundation thing is in between high school and college, am I right? Sort of a punch up of your high school grades so you qualify for college? Cause I could totally see the GI bill not apply to that type of program but only to actual college courses.

BTW, not american either, just well familiar with american politics.

That's kinda what the foundation thing is yeah. No idea if it's a thing in the US, but where I live, if you don't get the grades to get into your chosen college course, you can choose to do a general foundation course first, and as long as you pass it, you'll then get into the main course. That's basically what's going on here. Let's go with that then, the GI bill doesn't apply to foundation courses xD

 

[d_pedestrian]

She also mentions it once more later on if you decide not to clear their sexual history data

She also mentions it before giving blowjob to MC.

She only says this to you if you decide to give her permission to continue the lesbian stuff. If you're not into girls getting it on, you can just tell Cassie to knock it off.

It's not like if I choose to tell Cassie to knock it off it will entirely change cassie's and Riley's past.

The vast majority of people do not equate giving a handjob to loss of virginity.

A girl will technically remain a virgin even after getting fucked in the ass. Just saying. So even if handjobs won't result in loss of virginity it still gets counted.

She's also never recipricated Cassie's lesbian stuff because she's not comfortable doing that kind of stuff to another girl.

In that case you should have put Riley out of this. Why did you involve her with cassey in the past if According to you she never reciprocated? (which she did otherwise she wouldn't have let cassey do things to her). Where's the fun in that though... right?

Anyways I'll ignore Riley and cassey. Riley because I expected too much from her and cassey because she's the reason why I'll ignore Riley.

 

[Atemsiel]

She also mentions it before giving blowjob to MC.

I did some searching, and yes it seems you're technically correct. She says "Does this feel good? I've only done this once before.." I'd totally forgotten about that. You're the only one who's ever brought it up, so I guess now I know. Thanks. In fairness, from the character's perspective, she doesn't know that you're already aware of it. Sure, from a gameplay perspective you can be displeased that she mentioned it, but I'm not trying to make the game a perfect virgin wonderland. It features virgins, but it's not about virgins.

It's not like if I choose to tell Cassie to knock it off it will entirely change cassie's and Riley's past.

Well no, it won't. The girls did what they did in the past, and if that ruins your interest in those girls, then it is how it is. Some of the other girls have sexual pasts too. You're not gonna be getting girls telling you about how their previous lovers fucked them or that kinda thing, but their pasts will be coming up. I can't tell the story I have planned without addressing parts of that. The game isn't intended for the audience who will swear off any woman who's had a previous partner. (Or less)

A girl will technically remain a virgin even after getting fucked in the ass. Just saying. So even if handjobs won't result in loss of virginity it still gets counted.

So is hand holding counted as well? Where's the line? I went with the technical definition, not the consensus of a section of a forum. The site doesn't have a "has not had sexual intercourse before" tag, so I went with virgin. It's never been raised as an issue. If people are going after the virgin tag because they're hoping for defloration content, that will be present. If they're after the virgin tag because they're hoping all of the characters are completely innocent and have never even heard of sex, this isn't the game for them.

In that case you should have put Riley out of this. Why did you involve her with cassey in the past if According to you she never reciprocated? (which she did otherwise she wouldn't have let cassey do things to her). Where's the fun in that though... right?

I did it because I wanted the game to feature lesbian content between Cassie and Riley, with Cassie as the sole initiator. Riley doesn't ask Cassie to go down on her or anything, but she lets her do it to her. She's never reciprocated by doing it back. Hell, she might in future, but that depends on how her character develops according to the choices the player makes.

Anyways I'll ignore Riley and cassey. Riley because I expected too much from her and cassey because she's the reason why I'll ignore Riley.

K

I appreciate that it sounds like you're still willing to play this game, but I don't plan on walking on egg shells throughout development just in case I accidentally upset someone over something minor. I'd understand if I suddenly decided to include something drastic like a weird prostitution route or something but that's not happening. None of the game is intended to cause jealousy, and if it does, that's on you to be honest.

 

[wulfy1]

My game also crashes right after the Riley/Cassie masturbation scenes, where the MC spies. Doesn't matter if I cover for Riley or not. Tried 32bit, restarting the game, rebooting then restarting but nothing I tried worked. Save attached.


OK, so this is a little odd. I checked event viewer and it directed me to a "DistributedCOM" error on every crash. I attached a snip of the event in from EV. A little searching around and a few hops later and I land here:

You must be registered to see the links

I follow the steps but even with full admin, I am unable to take ownership/get full control of this KEY in Regedt. No idea why only a few of us are seeing this but it is apparently an issue that ahs been around since at least Windows 8.1 and maybe longer.

Its a pity, as I really like the game and I do not even mind sharing Riley with girls Oh well, that's the way it goes. You find a cute red head who harbors a secret yet hawt AF crush and then the computer crashes.

 

[Atemsiel]

My game also crashes right after the Riley/Cassie masturbation scenes, where the MC spies. Doesn't matter if I cover for Riley or not. Tried 32bit, restarting the game, rebooting then restarting but nothing I tried worked. Save attached.

I'll take a look, gimmie a sec.

 

[d_pedestrian]

but I'm not trying to make the game a perfect virgin wonderland. It features virgins, but it's not about virgins.

I would have liked it a lot if you just made them either virgins or non virgins without any other details. She's virgin? Yaay. She's not a virgin? That's a bummer but okay.

Problem starts when you start talking about what she did and how often.

if that ruins your interest in those girls, then it is how it is. Some of the other girls have sexual pasts too.

I like taliya even though she's not a virgin and i guessing you'll spoil her too unintentionally. I'll cross that bridge when I get there i guess.

The reason why my interest on Riley is ruined because she's MC's childhood friend. As a player i actually cared the most about her. After knowing what she did with cassey i care about her less. Would have cared way lesser if it was a man instead of cassey but nonetheless I care less about her now.

My interest in cassey is ruined because she took away everything what I wanted MC to experience with Riley.

You're not gonna be getting girls telling you about how their previous lovers fucked them or that kinda thing, but their pasts will be coming up.

Well, that's exactly what you didn't with cassey so I'm sceptical about how you'll deal with taliya. Let's see.

So is hand holding counted as well? Where's the line?

From where I come from you may shake hands with people you don't know the name of but don't jerk them off.

The line is with giving Too much information. We don't need to know what they did or how they did. Casey's handjob information has nothing to do with the story still you added that information because of REALISM. I don't understand where this realism go when you introduce so many Lesbian/Bisexuals. There's a reason why LGBTQ+ exists. They are rare.

I did it because I wanted the game to feature lesbian content between Cassie and Riley, with Cassie as the sole initiator.

I would have liked it a lot of you had started Riley's lesbian adventure after the game started with the choice of MC.

It's your game though so please make this game the way you want to.

 

[Tiur]

I would have liked it a lot if you just made them either virgins or non virgins without any other details. She's virgin? Yaay. She's not a virgin? That's a bummer but okay.

Problem starts when you start talking about what she did and how often.

Dude, she says "I've only done this once before" about touching his dick, then she IMMEDIATELY starts doing things with him she's never done before with anyone. She's 100% totally devoted to the MC. Even the lesbian stuff later on is mostly her wingmanning him with his childhood friend.

If that's enough to spoil someone for you, I don't know how you enjoy *any* AVN. That's the thinnest skin I've ever seen.

Like the dev said, this probably isn't the game for you.

 

[Atemsiel]

Words

I think at this point we disagree on various points, and we're not really going to convince each other, but that's fine. You will most likely find various parts of this game you dislike in future based on my understanding of your preferences, but there may also be parts you like. Play it if you want. Ultimately, I'm making the game for me, but it's cool if other people want to play it too.

Anyway, at very least I can guarantee that Hikari has done absolutely nothing in the past, hell, she's never even had an orgasm (Depending on your choices).

You will most likely dislike Taliya's story when it starts, but I guess we'll see. Next update primarily features Hikari, Sasha, and Riley.

 

[d_pedestrian]

she says "I've only done this once before" about touching his dick

Well, she shouldn't have said it.

Hikari has done absolutely nothing in the past

What about Sasha? Did she do things with girls before?

 

[Atemsiel]

What about Sasha? Did she do things with girls before?

Nothing planned. She's a bit mysterious, but her in game stats are accurate. At the time of her introduction, she hasn't fooled around with any girls, and is straight. (Though that doesn't lock her out of future lesbian type content, if you decide to push her in that direction.)