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Peacekeepr

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With regard to the scope of the whole thing, I think there is some misunderstanding around what I'm actually planning to do, or even wanting to do.
Yes, besides the three routes thing, nothing else about the scope is properly explained. This is why I asked about flowchart, the simple fact of being able to make one down already means it is not absurd. From the current presentation alone, it is trivial to assume the scope is the giant math mess I've shown earlier.

Being told I'm at risk of burning out has always been a strange one to me because I've seen cases of that, and all of those cases have been either someone making something of far more limited scope than what I've already made, or someone trying to make something of a much larger scope than what I even have planned.
Burnout is not related to the scope, actually. It is related to the burden on your body. If you think of the brain as a water tank, then burnout happens when you're draining more water from it than it currently replenishes ─ it'll be forewarned by stress once it is reaching low levels, and actual burnout happens when it is mostly dry. Then the body will impose a restriction to replenish the "tank", we call that restriction as burnout. The restriction may be limited to a single project, or may also cover everything you do. (And no, the body doesn't asks for your input).

Also worth noting that burnout can evolve into depression and anxiety. Letting go of the "sinks" during burnout stage is almost required to avoid this evolution, and depression by itself can remove the "labor of love" argument rather forcefully (and if the body has to sacrifice your happiness to keep you alive, it'll likely do so). This is one of the reasons why devs abandon games once they burn out.

Also, as I said earlier ─ if the brain was a water tank, then it is replenishing a bit when you sleep, eat, rest, make physical activities, etc. improving the lifestyle tends to push burnout away and is effective even if burnout actually happens. But ultimately, the issue is never how fast it is replenishing itself but how much you're taking from it. Only you can assess if you're taking more than you can replenish, and only you can adjust your pacing accordingly. You are the limit.

I feel like people do misinterpret the scope of what I'm actually making sometimes.
to be honest it seemed to come from a marketability perspecitive, which has never really been my priority.
I think you replied yourself earlier, hence the two quotes here (second one now out of context). Try to pretend you forgot everything about the game. Read the OP, play the game for 15~30 minutes, then take a glance at Patreon posts (as a non-subscriber, meaning only the first 100 characters from each post). What scope do you think the project have?
"All of the main girls have 3 routes" "You can absolutely mix and match and have different girls on different routes, and some combinations will cause" "if you're totally uninterested in a character" "However, all combinations are technically possible""Solo routes are planned to be supported" ─ This alone from the first 3 minutes in game already throw the estimate to a minimum of 2,000 combinations.
Of course, you could just say "try to find special combinations" instead of "some combinations will cause", and other key wording to impress the actual scope (e.g. "However, all combinations are [...] some just harder [...]" -> "While all combinations are [...] some are harder [...]"; and "Solo routes are planned, [...]" -> "It is planned to allow you to pursue a single girl [...]") but this is difficult to nail down and require some time. Ah, also, "Once you have your route locked in [...]" -> "Once a girl had her route locked in [...]" ─ this helps to maintain the scope of keyword "route" to the girls, and not to the story itself.

It's ultimately a marketability concern ("presentation"). If you don't care then that's fine. But keep in mind people don't know anything until you tell them, and they'll happily infer anything you don't. Right now, you impress a gigantic scope, specially by using the keyword "route". I left in the second spoiler some nitpicking I personally would use, although you could do a pretty good job limiting by just adding an extra dialog box differentiating girl routes with game route(s), or just adding to dev notes how many endings are planned.

Anyway, I'm not here to lecture you, nor to tell you how to live your life or develop your game (and if I were doing any of those, then I would also be charging for it). Stormside has potential and I wish to see it completed, and it won't do any favor if the developer burns out or runs out of money (assuming you're working on this full time, it's not said but I have this impression from the numbers). Throwing my two cents about scope is what I can contribute to you right now.
Peace and out.
 

reid1

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Oct 25, 2021
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Started this game recently, one of the best ones in this site, in my humble opinion.

A couple of things/bugs that may or may not be of interested to the dev.

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EvolutionKills

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Jan 3, 2021
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Okay, first time playing, and I'm only maybe 10~15 minutes into it. Got far enough to where you're telling Riley about your time in the military, and I had to stop and speak my mind.

It is so fucking rare to see two characters carry on a conversation with each other where they both sound like actual people with lived experiences and actually enjoy each other's company. Quite refreshing to only be this far in and I find myself being pleasantly surprised, rather than subjecting my inner Grammar Nazi to torture by reading 'Baby's First Erotic VN' as penned by a not terribly precocious teenager who speak English as a second language and had the script translated by MTL.

So yeah, kudos for that. Strong first impression here.
 

Sennistrasz

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Oct 6, 2020
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What's the difference between romance and submission paths other than the punishments? Does romance have exclusive scenes?
 

Cherubin25

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What's the difference between romance and submission paths other than the punishments? Does romance have exclusive scenes?
You should take a look at the gallery. Some scenes are exclusive to some routes and some scenes will not pop up if you are on a specific route.

So there will be scenes which will only happen on the Romance-Route (or other respective routes).
 

Atemsiel

Developer of Stormside
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Jan 4, 2022
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So is there any chance of getting an android port?
Not likely any time soon. By default, android ports have a maximum size of 2GB, so the game is already several times too big for a standard port to be made. I hear there's some way that devs can do it, but I don't know it, nor do I really have the time to look into it properly considering I'd also have to redesign several of the menus to work properly on mobile (The profile screen would be almost unreadable on a phone screen.)

I do hear that the game works fine on joiplay though assuming you're using the latest version from the website. The one on the app store is apparently out of date.
 

TigerWolfe

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Oct 19, 2022
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Not likely any time soon. By default, android ports have a maximum size of 2GB, so the game is already several times too big for a standard port to be made. I hear there's some way that devs can do it, but I don't know it, nor do I really have the time to look into it properly considering I'd also have to redesign several of the menus to work properly on mobile (The profile screen would be almost unreadable on a phone screen.)

I do hear that the game works fine on joiplay though assuming you're using the latest version from the website. The one on the app store is apparently out of date.
There's also already porters porting it... they just have to look.
 

telidar

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Jul 28, 2023
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Finally, been looking for something with the same vibe as Eternum and Oial - writing is on the level, comedy is actually funny, and the girls are cute. The only 'negative' thing I can say about the game is that each time I saw the MCs face was on screen it made me laugh for some reason, lol.
 

ramvivat

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Jun 28, 2022
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Should we understand that Cassie tore Riley's hymen with a dildo in a sex shop in the fitting room?
shit, I feel like I was robbed, I was robbed of the honorable right to tear Riley’s virginity.
it's called "put a pig at the table - he'll put his feet on the table"
What if we forbid Cassie from lesbianism with the harem girls?
on the other hand, how else, that is, from the romantic side, can we gain access to Riley’s body?
After all, Riley is very timid and will not dare to confess unless Cassie pushes her.
or else I'll probably have to punish Riley and make her a submissive... am I right or wrong?

Yes, by the way, is it possible to drag a submissive onto the romantic path? Or is the only way for a submissive to either remain a submissive or become a sex slave?
 
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Atemsiel

Developer of Stormside
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Jan 4, 2022
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Should we understand that Cassie tore Riley's hymen with a dildo in a sex shop in the fitting room?
shit, I feel like I was robbed, I was robbed of the honorable right to tear Riley’s virginity.
it's called "put a pig at the table - he'll put his feet on the table"
What if we forbid Cassie from lesbianism with the harem girls?
on the other hand, how else, that is, from the romantic side, can we gain access to Riley’s body?
After all, Riley is very timid and will not dare to confess unless Cassie pushes her.
or else I'll probably have to punish Riley and make her a submissive... am I right or wrong?

Yes, by the way, is it possible to drag a submissive onto the romantic path? Or is the only way for a submissive to either remain a submissive or become a sex slave?
No, Riley's hymen remained intact as a result of grain of salt porn game bullshit. She even has a deflouration scene which includes blood, though it only happens under specific circumstance. Whilst it doesn't technically make sense, nothing that happens at the sex shop tears Riley's hymen.

Also with regard to pulling a submissive onto the romantic path, if you just mean a submissive girl, yes this is possible. All you gotta do is not punish her. If you meant pulling a girl who is already on the submission path onto the romance path, no, this isn't possible at the moment.
 

Zoulu

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Jun 24, 2018
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Just finished up 0.22, amazing game, interesting story and absolutely hilarious moments, Hikari's pushup scene was fucking hilarious, I love moments like those. The 3d renders are elite as well. Between this and Race of life, the new games we are getting are just top notch. Kudos to you Atemsiel, you've got a future pateron subscriber (have to move into an apartment in MA and no rent control so I've saving up every penny for now lol)
 

Nezron

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Apr 13, 2023
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Don't know how I missed this gem of a game... But played 0.22, only have done the nice guy so far, but really enjoyed the game. The game gives of the vibes of games like Headmaster, Harem Hotel... etc... but without all that grindy sandbox crap.

Animations, Models, Story... well everything is top notch... very well done
My only problems is.... I WANT MORE.. lol.

but really great work, peace.
 
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