VN Ren'Py Stormside [v0.23.1.4] [Atemsiel]

[Maviarab]

I thank you for the kind comments. I would say that if you like the idea of being Sasha's ghost buddy, but also like the punishment stuff, sub route is the way to go. She's the only current example of a character whose main story gets basically entirely skipped if you choose slave route, simply because I cannot think of any reason that MC would actually want to go on ghost hunts with her if he saw her as nothing but a sex object. Ghosts hunts are what she wants, but what she wants isn't important to slave MC.

That said, the elements of her story which would be unaffected by MC's lack of involvement will still play out in whatever way they would play out given the circumstances, and will be featured on her slave route. Her sub route still lets you go on the ghost hunts, still lets you collar her, and still lets you punish her. The content is a little less dark thematically and in the writing, but yeah, that's how it is with her. General rule regarding the content is that because of how the writing is planned, avoid the slave routes for any girls you care about in any sort of affectionate sense. Slave MC will not develop affection for his girls, because he sees them as property.

I would say that depending on how dark you're hoping things get, you may or may not be disappointed. Both the sub and slave routes will feature more extreme content than that which is currently in the game, but I do have a limit for what I intend to include, partially dictated by not wanting to get patreon on my ass, and partially just the limits of what I actually have any interest in writing/rendering. Lots of orgasm denial, forced orgasms, more spanking, paddling, psychological stuff, predicament porn, public humiliation, etc... All kinds of stuff.

My limit is mostly stuff I just consider to be straight up gross. I'll include a list below of stuff I have no plans to include in the game, which may disappoint some, or provide relief to others. No idea, I just don't like to mislead.

Spoiler: Dark shit that won't be going in the game.

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Regarding the spoiler part, I'll respond in the spoiler below.

Spoiler: Explaining my intentions with the thing mentioned above. (Don't expand this if you just wanna see where it goes as the updates come out.)

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Gahh....out of reactions so:

 

[Absurdity]

Either way, if you're worried about MC losing control of his actions due to some drug bullshit, that ain't happening.

That's all I need to hear.

 

[Bringn_Da_Pain]

Not sure how I've waited this long to play this game, but wow.

Love the interactions. To me the visuals could be a bit better, but that's just a personal style preferance.

Awesome work, can't wait to see more from you.

 

[Quess]

Dang, just played this game for the first time. Great work! Looking forward to seeing it develop.

I did try to write a review, but I was not satisfied with it, so you'll have to wait a bit for my 5-star rating.

 

[Rycharde's Realm]

Why for the GAME.ZIP file in the GAME folder?

 

[GoblinLover01]

Surprisingly, I didn't enjoy this at all. Could really use some girls with bigger tits/ass

 

[TigerWolfe]

Surprisingly, I didn't enjoy this at all. Could really use some girls with bigger tits/ass

I emphatically agree with half your statement and vehemently disagree with the other half, weird.

 

[BlasKyau]

Surprisingly, I didn't enjoy this at all. Could really use some girls with bigger tits/ass

I like the LIs the way they are.

 

[GoblinLover01]

I emphatically agree with half your statement and vehemently disagree with the other half, weird.

Honestly, I think I just don't like these games anymore....

 

[Alandir]

Surprisingly, I didn't enjoy this at all. Could really use some girls with bigger tits/ass

Not really. I'm a fan of big boobs as well, but the dev isn't, it's no big deal.
There's plenty of games with huge boobs, just play something else.

 

[Cherubin25]

Not really. I'm a fan of big boobs as well, but the dev isn't, it's no big deal.
There's plenty of games with huge boobs, just play something else.

Basically this.

I prefer big boobs, and I wish some girls in this game would have bigger boobs. But it is up to the Dev and if someone does not like the models, there are plenty of other games.

(I like the models)

 

[sipsipsap]

Spoiler: Dark shit that won't be going in the game.

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Kinks like that have often times something to do with exactly the themes you've been successfully writing about. Humiliation. Imo they could fit into the game. It can either be some girl that is (secretly) into some NASTY shit. Which would be the more unlikely scenario and feel more tagged on because it would look like you WANTED those kinks in the game (which you clearly stated is not the case).
The other way around and considering the drug you mentioned in the last scene in the current patch would fit more. You have some kind of slave girl the MC really hates (There are several options) and/or the girl has fucked up MAJORLY. We are talking intentionally injured someone else kind of level.
In that scenario having the MC to decide to really make the girl fear the basement seems a logical option. Especially its been hinted for several girls, they like the pain. You can't really dominate someone if they get off the pain (though the collars would help) by inflicting pain because it becomes more a reward. Humiliation in this instance is more effective.
And adding some unwanted Watersports into the scene for example seems fitting imo.

As you mentioned. The tool of external Situation makes the MC be able to act almost schizophrenic. And the more experience he gets in both roles the more believable even quite extreme actions become. Extreme in both ways. Both Punishing and having a romance with a girl.

Also practical aspect: More tags means dodging more filters on https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/ ;P
The game with the mile long tag list and good ratings goes up to the top (eventually).


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Completely different topic/idea. Don't want to make an extra reply for this.


I think a fitting scene for the game would be for the MC to have discussion with one of the girls (so they tell the others) about the one power (and pretty much only power) a sub has. The power of consent.
It should also a good way to teach the reader about this.

The important thing the girl/reader has to learn is the fact that the girl actually chooses to be subjugated to the treatment of the MC in the basement.

Because the girl always has a choice even if it may seem to the layman she doesn't. The MC should explain to her that she can leave the room at any point she wants to. But she will have to live with consequences. Meaning likely being expelled.

This may seem like extortion. But in contrast to actual torture the girl always has a choice to leave. That is the consent.

A safe word like "salzburry steak" can not just be used to make the dom simply stop but also the stop the entire treatment/situation. Any command for the sub is a constant evaluation between following the order or living with the consequences of not doing so.
The MC therefore should also explain the he will always tell the girl beforehand what he will do next. Not necessarily in detail (how often) but enough to give her the choice.

If at any point the MC for example orders a girl to sign a new contract that allows the MC to imprison the girl and/or using torture methods on her the girl has the option to refuse (and be consequently be expelled).

It doesn't have to seem fair. That is part of the deal. But the lesson boils down to: "You can always just.... leave". If she chooses not to, she gives consent by not saying the safeword.

Note: In other situation a safe word is used to make the dom stop what they are doing. This shouldn't exist in the game. The safe word here would be to stop, leave the room and expect to be expelled.

 

[Alandir]

Kinks like that have often times something to do with exactly the themes you've been successfully writing about. Humiliation. Imo they could fit into the game. It can either be some girl that is (secretly) into some NASTY shit. Which would be the more unlikely scenario and feel more tagged on because it would look like you WANTED those kinks in the game (which you clearly stated is not the case).
The other way around and considering the drug you mentioned in the last scene in the current patch would fit more. You have some kind of slave girl the MC really hates (There are several options) and/or the girl has fucked up MAJORLY. We are talking intentionally injured someone else kind of level.
In that scenario having the MC to decide to really make the girl fear the basement seems a logical option. Especially its been hinted for several girls, they like the pain. You can't really dominate someone if they get off the pain (though the collars would help) by inflicting pain because it becomes more a reward. Humiliation in this instance is more effective.
And adding some unwanted Watersports into the scene for example seems fitting imo.

As you mentioned. The tool of external Situation makes the MC be able to act almost schizophrenic. And the more experience he gets in both roles the more believable even quite extreme actions become. Extreme in both ways. Both Punishing and having a romance with a girl.

What part of 'The dev doesn't want those things to be in the game' did you not understand.

 

[Tiur]

Which would be the more unlikely scenario and feel more tagged on because it would look like you WANTED those kinks in the game (which you clearly stated is not the case).
The other way around and considering the drug you mentioned in the last scene in the current patch would fit more. You have some kind of slave girl the MC really hates (There are several options) and/or the girl has fucked up MAJORLY. We are talking intentionally injured someone else kind of level.

Perhaps you missed that he specifically said:

This is just the list in my mind of stuff that won't appear unless I suddenly have a fairly worrying personality shift.

You're trying to explain to him how to put in things he actively does not like. That, if he were to listen to you (which, luckily, he will not), is the surest and quickest way to developer/writer/artist burnout.

You have your tastes, and that's fine (no kink-shaming from me here), but the dev has stated flat-out which ones he does not like. Please stop suggesting ways for him to add them.

Also practical aspect: More tags means dodging more filters on https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/ ;P
The game with the mile long tag list and good ratings goes up to the top (eventually).

Generally speaking, tag-farm games are soulless and shitty, and no one remembers them after they're done and gone. Stormside at least deserves better than that, and I trust Atem to take it there without tag-farming.

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I think a fitting scene for the game would be for the MC to have discussion with one of the girls (so they tell the others) about the one power (and pretty much only power) a sub has. The power of consent.
It should also a good way to teach the reader about this.

Atem is making a porn game with a fun story. He's already flat-out acknowledged that a LOT of the shit in this game would be completely and ridiculously unethical in a real BDSM relationship. Mixing that in with a frank discussion about consent would just muddy the waters further as to what's acceptable in a real-world BDSM relationship and what isn't. Let this game just stay a fantasy with unrealistic relationships.

 

[wiseold6996]

Kinks like that have often times something to do with exactly the themes you've been successfully writing about. Humiliation. Imo they could fit into the game. It can either be some girl that is (secretly) into some NASTY shit. Which would be the more unlikely scenario and feel more tagged on because it would look like you WANTED those kinks in the game (which you clearly stated is not the case).
The other way around and considering the drug you mentioned in the last scene in the current patch would fit more. You have some kind of slave girl the MC really hates (There are several options) and/or the girl has fucked up MAJORLY. We are talking intentionally injured someone else kind of level.
In that scenario having the MC to decide to really make the girl fear the basement seems a logical option. Especially its been hinted for several girls, they like the pain. You can't really dominate someone if they get off the pain (though the collars would help) by inflicting pain because it becomes more a reward. Humiliation in this instance is more effective.
And adding some unwanted Watersports into the scene for example seems fitting imo.

As you mentioned. The tool of external Situation makes the MC be able to act almost schizophrenic. And the more experience he gets in both roles the more believable even quite extreme actions become. Extreme in both ways. Both Punishing and having a romance with a girl.

Also practical aspect: More tags means dodging more filters on https://f95zone.to/sam/latest_alpha/ ;P
The game with the mile long tag list and good ratings goes up to the top (eventually).


___________________________________________

Completely different topic/idea. Don't want to make an extra reply for this.


I think a fitting scene for the game would be for the MC to have discussion with one of the girls (so they tell the others) about the one power (and pretty much only power) a sub has. The power of consent.
It should also a good way to teach the reader about this.

The important thing the girl/reader has to learn is the fact that the girl actually chooses to be subjugated to the treatment of the MC in the basement.

Because the girl always has a choice even if it may seem to the layman she doesn't. The MC should explain to her that she can leave the room at any point she wants to. But she will have to live with consequences. Meaning likely being expelled.

This may seem like extortion. But in contrast to actual torture the girl always has a choice to leave. That is the consent.

A safe word like "salzburry steak" can not just be used to make the dom simply stop but also the stop the entire treatment/situation. Any command for the sub is a constant evaluation between following the order or living with the consequences of not doing so.
The MC therefore should also explain the he will always tell the girl beforehand what he will do next. Not necessarily in detail (how often) but enough to give her the choice.

If at any point the MC for example orders a girl to sign a new contract that allows the MC to imprison the girl and/or using torture methods on her the girl has the option to refuse (and be consequently be expelled).

It doesn't have to seem fair. That is part of the deal. But the lesson boils down to: "You can always just.... leave". If she chooses not to, she gives consent by not saying the safeword.

Note: In other situation a safe word is used to make the dom stop what they are doing. This shouldn't exist in the game. The safe word here would be to stop, leave the room and expect to be expelled.

There is no safe word and muh power of consent here. The bitches don't get any say on their punishment and they need to learn to do only one thing i.e. to obey. Play only the romantic route and don't make this game boring.

 

[Peacekeepr]

• Same with lines of code or dialogue lines. Obviously I've added a whole bunch of them, but I have no idea how many.

On Ren'Py, in Actions, the second button is "Check Script (Lint)". It'll keep track of number of dialogue blocks, words, characters, menus, images and screens. It'll also report a lot things which usually are too minor to be noted in testing, like unreachable statements, mess in text tags, screens without parameter lists, and missing images/sounds.

(The only other almost-universally-useful button in left side of Actions is "Navigate Script", which allows you to find where something was defined as well as keeping track of all TODOs you might leave on the code as well as where you left them).

For the record, the compressed v0.22.06 version gives the following Lint summary:

Statistics:

The game contains 34,701 dialogue blocks, containing 294,355 words and
1,619,572 characters, for an average of 8.5 words and 47 characters per block.

The Russian translation contains 23,643 dialogue blocks, containing 194,423
words and 1,045,395 characters, for an average of 8.2 words and 44 characters
per block.

The english translation contains 23,643 dialogue blocks, containing 0 words
and 0 characters, for an average of 0.0 words and 0 characters per block.

The game contains 299 menus, 11,706 images, and 202 screens.

(Besides around 750 warnings about orphan translations, inaccessible images, etc. which I'm too lazy to post and might be related to the compression so not worth it.)

Note: Lint will count the approx. 20~25 screens from base Ren'Py, and may also count some images used for e.g. screens. Whenever possible, Lint will also let you know how many blocks of dialogue each character has, but in some cases it might be unable to (You might need Ren'Py 8+ for this feature). Anyway, point being, there's no need to "track" these statistics yourself, Ren'Py can do that for you and all you need to do is click a button.

For the record, the average reader speed is between 200 and 300 words per minute. This means that according to Ren'Py Lint, to play through all routes skipping already read dialogue/transitions/minigames, this is currently a 16-24 hours VN. Lint unfortunately cannot split the routes for you ─ if this game could be fully seen in three playthroughs, time would fall to 6~8 hours per playthrough (permanently skipping already read text). The more routes you make, the more effort for the smaller visible result.
From the internet: "The average adult reading speed is 238 WPM (words per minute) for non-fiction and 260 WPM for fiction".

 

[haletuan123]

I tried plenty time but skill cant get the Just girls having fun T.T need help

 

[Alandir]

I tried plenty time but skill cant get the Just girls having fun T.T need help

I have no idea what you are asking about. What skill? What Just girls? Wtf are you talking about?

 

[Atemsiel]

I have no idea what you are asking about. What skill? What Just girls? Wtf are you talking about?

One of the sex scenes is called "Just girls having fun." so I'd assume he just wants to know how to unlock that one.

With that in mind, haletuan123 all you gotta do is either give Cassie permission to do her lesbian thing with Riley, and then select "Cassie makes a move" when she and Riley are talking in the dorms on day 4.

Alternatively, if Cassie doesn't ask your permission (Which she'll only do if you're fwb at this point), just select "Cassie makes a move." This will result in exactly what it sounds like. If you're playing with no spice mode then that would explain why this scene is eluding you. It's a lesbian one.

 

[Rizzler97]

First This game is amazing and I love it. just finished my playthrough and I’m Excited for future updates. I’m hoping for more content for Paige and Ashley since their my favorite second years, their so dumb it’s hilarious.

Also when I was playing I never got the Hikari Happy Massage scene so I don’t really know which route she’s heading towards to or if I’m locked out of all of them. I chose take it easy and tie her to the pole. I was super nice on the shopping date and made an interesting bet/offer with Akemi that pushed her towards the submission route. Will I be able to start Hikari Routes later.