Recommending Story-first games
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What is going on here?. U guys are scaring me . Is this like a cosplay scene or something? Or a dream sequence?
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I used to think Intertwined would be a game I'd have tons of saves for and play lots of different routes in, but in practice I've found I enjoy Alexis' route far more than anyone else's so it's my main focus. I strongly recommend that you at least give it a try before passing final judgment on the game. I get why you might find her too aggressive in the beginning (and I think Nyx herself has acknowledged that she felt pressured to provide an early sex scene), but I love how Alexis' and the MC's relationship develops. It starts out with secrets, lust, and of course lots of drama, but that rather flimsy foundation doesn't stop the slow formation of a more mature (well, by Intertwined standards anyway) relationship based on trust, forgiveness, and love. It's a sweet and very satisfying journey once you get past the early bumpiness.
I like Erynn and want the MC to help her, but there's about as much history between the MC and Alexis as between the MC and Erynn so I bristle a bit at the notion that Erynn is necessarily the main LI. Sure, the MC had a big crush on Erynn and experienced his first heartbreak with her, but there wasn't anything particularly profound or deep about their childhood relationship. I don't see why Erynn has to be considered the focal point of the story or the most important LI. The fact that the MC and Alexis have a past that's less painful and less based on obsession is actually a positive in my view. Wouldn't it suck if you were forever stuck with the person you happened to crush on when you were 12? That story is going to be there if you want it -- I'm sure Nyx loves to see childhood sweethearts reunited as much as anyone. But I feel like she also loves all her other characters and all the other story threads she's created.
The recent focus on Cara and Nikki is understandably polarizing. I know I feel uncomfortable having the MC pursue either one out of loyalty to Andres so I never have. However, I do like that Nyx is sticking to her guns and writing the paths she wants to write. Clearly, she views Cara and Nikki as more important parts of the story than a lot of players do. Perhaps that's reason enough to give them another look. I for one wouldn't want to see Nyx put an arbitrary limit on the number of LIs if it clips her wings as an artist or compromises her vision. Intertwined by design seems to be a VN meant to have a large cast of characters, many divergent story threads, and lots of drama. It might be too loose in structure for some tastes, but I rather like it the way it is even if it forever remains a bit messy.
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you guys are right,but counterpoint:
shy vampire lawyer girls are hot.
Gimme dat fan service.
shy vampire lawyer girls are hot.
Gimme dat fan service.
Yeah I'm using a walkthrough now so I saw some part of Alexis path until I broke it off for Layla. I don't even want MC to be with Layla but Elena's content is layered under Layla.
If I remember correctly, I think early on the MC talked quite a lot about Erryn so that's why my playthrough prioritized Erryn, because MC did. I myself want to play Elena path tbh.
It's like Artemis's MC being stuck on his ex betrayal, so I chose for him to just forgive the ex, same idea.
I'm quite checked out with Intertwined to remember the details, I only remember that 1 MC and Alexis past scene where Alexis gave him something on his birthday or something like that. A flower? a kiss? He was going to gave something to Erryn or something and then bailed and met Alexis in front of a garage or something.
That's the only one I remember and it happened long after MC's monologue about Erryn, that's why I prioritized Erryn.
I didn't know at first that rejecting the airport girl at the bar means cutting tons of contents. I get it then that the best way to play Intertwined is really to just accept most advances so that players can see all the intertwining. I then used walkthrough for this.
I said this on Intertwined thread, " Slow burn doesn't mean it's just slow. Good slow burn progresses. Intertwined feels slow as if it's almost static for the slow burn girls".
I feel like there is very little sense of progression from chapter to chapter between the MC and some of the slow burn girls. I know shit's going to hit the fan rather soon but I expected more developments from the slow burn girls on this update.
I'm still gonna play it because I like Elena, but the way the story progresses isn't that engaging to me tbh. I'm not really looking forward to the next chapter in the sense that I probably won't pay to get it Day 1. I paid for this update to play Day 1 because I wanted to know what happened to Erryn.
This game is like Artemis to me. It's fun to play but that's pretty much it. I wouldn't miss it if it gets cancelled tomorrow nor am I looking forward to the next chapter either (in the sense that I'm eager to pay for Day 1 access).
I'm looking forward to like, for example, Mad World more. I'm really looking forward to The DeLuca Family too.
DeLuca Family story is so good, and the update is self-contained too while leaving us wanting for more.
I haven't play any medieval games that was listed on Page 1. Like I haven't play Price of Power, or Oathbreaker 2.
Probably about time to start playing those next year perhaps. I'm running out of story-focused AVNs to play that's set in the modern world or sci-fi world.
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When it comes to fantasy VNs, I highly recommend Elvensang which is also one of jufot's favorites. The quality of the writing and worldbuilding is definitely far higher than most of the competition. I should probably give Price of Power another look myself as it didn't impress me when I first played it, but now that I know that what I thought was awkward fourth wall breaking humor is actually pivotal to the plot I'm interested again.
I'm curious if there have been any serious medieval VNs which don't feature magic and aim to be at least slightly historically accurate. Swords without the sorcery!
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I caught up with Price of Power today (last time I played was episode 10). Turns out all my theories about Legacy were complete wrong, as usual. I'm hopeless at predicting where stories will go. A little disappointing that Eve is so much more coherent, I like Legacy's culture-shock dynamic with the MC, but we got another powerpoint so not all is lost. Maria, Emilia, and the MC's are shaping up well.
Just need an artist with an identical train of thought.
Hey, I'll write it. There's a storyline in my head about a knight with an excess of ambition and a festering grudge, an emotionally unavailable young widow with a flair for intrigue, an heiress who listened to too many romantic ballads, and a brewing civil war.
Just need an artist with an identical train of thought.
I've been whinging about the need for a period adult VN for some time now. _Battle for Luvia_ was shaping up brilliantly, a sort of GoT set in a fictionalised/alternative world version of the Holy Roman Empire... but the poor Dev bit of more than he could chew.Hey, I'll write it. There's a storyline in my head about a knight with an excess of ambition and a festering grudge, an emotionally unavailable young widow with a flair for intrigue, an heiress who listened to too many romantic ballads, and a brewing civil war.
Just need an artist with an identical train of thought.
Your idea sounds juicy, polemus. Do it!
My wife and I recently rewatched the film _Firelight_ for the first time in about 10 years. It's OK (apart from Sophie Marceau's performance, which is great)... but my wife observed that it could be the basis of a 'spectacular AVN.' She's right: with all the elements involved there, you could build a story with real stakes (including some horrible outcomes) as well as eroticism.
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True !There is an entire sorority full of hot women who are all inexplicably single and all inexplicably attracted to the depressed and unemployed nobody that is our MC. And what do you mean "no girls getting laid in the blink of an eye"? Katy literally fucks him within 10 minutes of meeting him
The only sorority member who has any real plot relevance is Reina, and that's only because her company is involved with Cassie. Beyond that, anything to do with the sorority is pure fan service.
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I'm not a visuals guy, so it would be purely text and niche even by our standards. But who knows, I might put something together just for fun. We'll see how my current project goes.
Never seen the film, but just from reading the plot synopsis I can see the potential. Interesting twist on the one who got away.
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Nothing is Forever chapter 5 is now out publicly and it's excellent as promised. So far I've only played through on my main route (Emma's maledom), but I'm looking forward to catching up on some of the others.
Probably my favorite AVN at the moment.
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Probably my favorite AVN at the moment.
Agreed, at least among those AVNs that are still in progress.
Emma is a first class LI, for so many reasons:
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To my mind, a 'true end' in this game must involve Emma. Her story with the MC feels like a sort of kinky _Pride and Prejudice_.
I am sure that you're right, polemus -- for the MC to succeed with her, he's going to need to make himself vulnerable... and vice-versa. That will be extremely uncomfortable for both of them, but could be spectacularly satisfying if they succeed.
One of the other great things bout this game is that it's extremely well produced: if feels like a storyboarded film. SilverLust does an excellent job polishing and refreshing earlier episodes, even as he adds new material. Outstanding work.
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I have found my home. Thank you for your recommendations
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It's definitely one of the very best out there. The updates never disappoint!
I actually thought this was a really good update for Emma if she ISN'T being romanced because it might change some players' minds about her. You can view the MC and Emma's usual bickering as foreplay and a struggle for dominance if your MC is pursuing her...however, if she's just a friend, it's a lot harder to accept their dynamic as is because their verbal sparring gets a lot more personal and critical than banter typically does. I thought this chapter was the first one where Emma truly acted like an actual friend from beginning to end if she and the MC aren't involved. She was consistently cordial, she initiated contact bringing some much-needed balance to their relationship, they (miracles of miracles) actually worked well together on their mission, and she seemed genuinely thankful for the MC's help. It certainly made for a pleasant change of pace.
I'm sure we haven't seen the last big MC-Emma fight, but perhaps some of the tension between them will dissipate if they can establish a friendship with clear boundaries and no (or at least fewer) erotic undertones. Emma has always had moments of warmth and she seems to be particularly caring around her female friends like Paige and Monika. In time, perhaps the MC on a friend route will become one of the girls so to speak -- a trusted friend and ally who can be confided in and relied on rather than someone perceived as a threat, challenge, or the "other." Talk about one giant leap for mankind. If he truly does end up infiltrating the inner circle, I just hope he doesn't proceed to fuck everything up for all guys.
Of course, players who truly hate Emma aren't going to be happy to see her showing up all the time (and this is a particularly heavy Emma chapter), but there's just no escaping her for very long in Nothing Is Forever. I imagine she does drive some people away from the game which is a shame.
I was interested in what you said about it being incredibly clear that Emma is in love with the MC. Are there any specific moments in the game other than sex scenes that lead you to this conclusion? I tend to think the MC always has a thing for Emma even if you don't romance her...that's why he's always thinking about her, reaching out to her, and trying to bring her more and more into his life. However, I find Emma's attitude towards the MC to be much more ambiguous particularly in the early chapters. There's some attraction on her end to be sure, but also a lot of skepticism I think. The MC has usually been the one who has had to initiate contact and make amends (even when Emma deserves a share of the blame), for instance, and even in the very beginning of the game it's the MC's friends who had to set them up together. Undoubtedly Emma's prideful nature and standoffish personality would make it hard for her to reach out and express her innermost feelings so you might be right on, but I'm not sure it's a given that she's in love with the MC.
Ooooh, I am quite sure that Emma has it bad for the MC! But SilverLust has written her in a way that is very true to life, in the sense that she does not gush over the MC or confess her affection... quite the opposite, really. But evidence of love is there, and doesn't require squinting:
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SilverLust is a big fan of tropes, particularly from the golden age of Hollywood... and Emma pretty much embodies a cross between
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. The only question in my mind is whether Silver intends to evolve this into a
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! There's also a sort of Howard Hawkes-esque screwball element, as well, in the sense that pretty much everyone else (certainly the MC's male friends) can see what's going on, but the two principals don't have much of a clue.
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Leap of Faith is my newest fave visual novel, dear god am I impressed!
I asked for porn with really likable, compelling characters, and dear god does this game deliver so far!
I read what you said about it Jufot, and yeah, if that's really the case, then yeah, I get why you took it off the list. They're likely very valid complaints.
I think the difference between you and I is that I just wanna spend time with a bunch of likable, compelling characters and read all sorts of interesting dialogue from them. I also place pacing waaaaaaaaay above everything else.
That said, is it fair to say that you're ok with people liking whatever they want, you just happen to want to do your own thing?
I asked for porn with really likable, compelling characters, and dear god does this game deliver so far!
I read what you said about it Jufot, and yeah, if that's really the case, then yeah, I get why you took it off the list. They're likely very valid complaints.
I think the difference between you and I is that I just wanna spend time with a bunch of likable, compelling characters and read all sorts of interesting dialogue from them. I also place pacing waaaaaaaaay above everything else.
That said, is it fair to say that you're ok with people liking whatever they want, you just happen to want to do your own thing?
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I ran across this while searching for something else. Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Some of the stories I have gone through or have downloaded and others I knew nothing about so I look forward to going through the list.
Leap of Faith by far has been my favorite with Acting Lessons in there at #2. I have others I am really enjoying like Artemis and Summers Gone.
Leap of Faith by far has been my favorite with Acting Lessons in there at #2. I have others I am really enjoying like Artemis and Summers Gone.
I have only played a red/green MC, so I don't have first hand experience on all the variations. With that disclaimer, I'm gonna just go ahead and say that the love-hate relationship they have and the sexual tension resulting from their opposing world view is the primary intent behind her character. The nuance and execution of this relationship is off the charts.
I'm curious though. What is the relationship like if you are playing a sensitive dude who agrees with her feminist stuff? Do they still get into heated arguments?