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Those are the "archetypes". You are mostly correct. When a character is generated they are assigned one of those and from that their other traits are generated. But after that it doesn't really come into play and changing it won't affect their other values. Note that the sister has special scenes created for her that happen regardless of her personality so you won't be able to really prevent those from happening.Perusing the save files, I see descriptors for everyone, and that they vary widely. Slut, bimbo, prude, artsy, etc. I operate on the assumption there's a data file somewhere that these draw from, initializing a set of opinions and traits accordingly. That's born out by changing those words and seeing how the person acts. Like my little sister, I fixed her to be "artsy" and she never begs for money. I can't recall what her word was before I changed it. But she still drags strays into the bar. Her troublesome behavior is just a part of the story.
edit... little sister is now begging for money. First time in Feb 2025. Oh well, she's cute.
Ok so you've done your research and it's mostly correct. However, the co-opinions are not requirements. They make it easier to change the opinion if they have the requisite co-ops. If she already likes polyamory and threesomes, you are mostly there. Now it may be a case that she doesn't like women at all, and won't do a MFF 3-some. Maybe she would be willing to do a MMF. So make sure she's a bit bi to improve that. Or it could be she doesn't like you or the other person in the 3-some enough.Yeah I know it's in the Help screen, just easier to have the text file open in another screen since you can reference that while in a dialogue or NPC stats screen. Makes cross-referencing all the many opinions you have to check much easier. Help data can't be accessed while other screens are open, so while it's helpful for finding info, when checking multiple things to compare against an NPC it's much clunkier.
As for the latter part, I mentioned Polyamory and Threesomes. I've gotten her to Love all other co-op opinions for both of those two, but will not raise opinion on either of them. It appears to be a case of won't raise Threesomes because Polyamory is too low, and won't raise Polyamory because Threesomes is too low.
Which is fine, but you also don't want a system that's too opaque or inflexible that it causes frustration when player's can't figure out what's blocking progression and therefore can't find a way to resolve it.
And hey this may sound like I'm complaining, I'm really not: I'm only talking on this thread because I like the game and think it has a good foundation and potential. Ultimately it's your vision for how you want it to end up, and some people do like grindier games so it's not like anything here is *wrong*. I'm just of the mind that the opinions system could probably use some streamlining; you're walking a fine line on making the game frustrating. Players aren't going to memorize 200 opinions and all their cooperatives and opposites, nor click out of menus to go to help over and over, nor keep an excel spreadsheet open on another monitor so they can cross reference the 20 different opinions they need against an NPC's actual stances. Most will simply drop the game. Which is why i think you need a less convoluted opinions tree, and/or clearer guidance.
And I say 20 opinions to cross reference, and a less convouted tree, is because that NPC I tried to raise Threesomes and Polyamory on, I needed:
Polyamory
SubmissiveFollower-LeadershipAnal_RGrope_RVoyeurVag_sexMasturbationThreesomes
Casual_sexCheating-Monogamy
So just 13, not quite 20. It has the potential for still more, I just didn't need to do some of the co-ops; every one here is one I had to change in order to modify its parent opinion. Still after raising all of these to Loves (or hated in the case of those two), for it to still fail at the end of the chain with no answer as to why or guidance on how to proceed.... surely you can see how that will turn off players to the game. That's a lot of hoops to jump through to still hit a wall with no clear path around it.
Anyway that's my two cents, do with them what you will. With all that being said, it is a neat game and definitely has some good potential; hope you have success with it!
Or it could be that if she has low rationality and she will act in unpredictable manner. In which case asking on a different day may work.
It can be frustrating, specially if you focus too much on a single goal. If you like grinding you can keep at trying different approaches until one works. If you rather not do that, you can move on to another person. There's always more girls to choose from. And if you want more info to help you figure out what to do, turn on the console and use the dump command to see all the info about a character. It may give you hints how to approach them or tell you that it's not worth it.
I'm not sure if that's what you mean, but you can click on a person's name above/below their image and get their details.Although it would be nice to have the ability lookup that help data while in the NPC's stats screen, and while you're on the change opinion dialogue. Maybe clicking one of the discovered opinions brings up its help page, which you can then close or navigate to other opinion pages? IDK just spitballing. Probably not a high priority, anyway
Shouldn't be. However, rape is a big deal and most people will not like it and no one will like it if done to them. It may be a smaller penalty than others, but it's still a negative.Is the non-consensual tag broken? I encountered a npc who 'loves' it, but then when it happens they are real mad about it. Is she just bipolar or is this a safe-word gone wrong thing here?
Not any different from any other character. That must be multiple instances of that because the max it should ever be is 35. But anyway, you will have to do a lot of little things to move the needle. It should only last a year, so it should wear out fast. Can also use cheats to change her opinion. They are discussed in this thread so search for them.Is there any way to cheat the Cult Leader to like you more? I got them to 24 but then they saw me do "something inappropriate" (no idea what or when),and that gave me a -53 and I'm strugglin to get their affection back up.
Sorry, that got messed up badly in the last update. Should be much better on the latest one.I feel like voting part is the most tedious part of this game, first you have to sit through them making up their mind of what to vote for when 9 times out of 10 they just can't, and even you sponsor a plant to sit on the council, for what ever reason, they ignore what you tell them to vote for. at the very least, the deadlock mechanic of them not making up their minds on what to vote for should be nuked, shits frustrating.
Yeah, it's not hooked up on all potential situations. I'll look into adding that one. However, they are not having sex in public technically.Still learning the ways of the punishment system. I have a suggestion. Employees who entertain guests in the bathroom deserve it, but they don't get anything more than a reprimand, as far as I can see. Guests with guests, that's another matter.
I've even caught employees doing this, yet they show as off the clock and can't be reprimanded. I text them to find out where they are, and find them on the clock after all. A little break time delight, perhaps? Maddening. Even making them hate Sex In Public doesn't seem to fix it.
Not too hard. Has been on the list for a while now, but never gotten to it.How hard would it be to add a quicksave/quickload feature?
No way to blackmail people based on gossips yet.Would love to know this as well. Especially if your girlfriend is also your sibling.
The limit for all traits is 100. Going over it is not possible.scw
" Those traits are already included in the base energy calculation. The more fit you are the more endurance you will have. "
i complete understand that, how endurance is generated, but what i want is posibility to go (effectively) over 100 endurance.
and here comes another few sugestions
pls, add :"info" to character you are talking with (which will basicaly just directly open contact screen). for simple reason to quickly knew what opinions you want to talk about and change it. trying to change opinion of person who allready love threesomes and you want them to like it....is waste of action.
add posibility to build own fitness centre, free to use by employees (and thiers family), with voluntary/mandatory use. for very simple reason - to reduce how many times employees needs to take of time because they are tired.
and with this come another. give us posibility to force empoyee to improve his health, since basicaly no one want employee which is sick (cant go to work because of health reasons) 20% of all time.
i dont care much if it will be due to personal conversation, some company health policy, but something is needed to addres that.
and with this comes another problem, and that is that game dont track what you know about persons. it is nice that you will know that person cant go to work because of drug/alcohol problem, but there is no info about that stored in contact screen. same goes when your private eye discover that person have anger managment problems, is extremly greedy, dealed drugs at work...etc. everthing useful info, without any posibility to keep it recorded.
using pen and paper....well, this is not dungeons and dragons game.
and pls add posibility to have personal talk, in which you can discover person traits and likes/dislikes.
Again, you can click on a person's name above/below their image to get their details. Sorry that isn't more intuitive.
You can gift a gym membership to your employees. That will make them go work out there a lot more frequently if their work schedule allows it and they like working out. If you are open Noon-Late, they will need to sleep in the mornings and will only find time to work out if when they take days off.
I've already indicated I'm looking into addressing the PI info issue. As for the other ones you suggest they should be listed under the Rumors/Gossips. (Actually I see now that the selling drugs doesn't get one, so I will fix that one).
The personal talk one is also there, called "Talk To" and then pick the say Hi option (or whatever the first option is labeled). You will learn an opinion about them when you do that. There's literally dozens of ways to learn about traits and opinions.