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Hi, Dev, The Birth Control status she says when you use talk -> birth control is very often different from the one you get when you ask during sex sessions. The one from Talk is incorrect given the console outputs and that somehow is the only place I can ask her to change from the incorrect value to the value I don't want (If she is using she will tell you she isn't, and the choice will only be to tell her to start using or to acknowledge her answer).
 

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How can I install this? I extracted to chracter folder but in game said no image file found
As long as your character folder looks something like this it should work just fine:
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Just make sure you add "ofg" to the options menu in game here, as well as any other packs you have.

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As far as I know that's all that is necessary for mod image packs to work.
 
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Loaded my new 1.08 save and all of a sudden people keep saying such and such is a virgin.

Last one was my barmaid who is pregnant and has had vaginal sex 10+ times?
Dunno if it's a bug or if it's just someone starting a rumour about them to talk shit? Not really sure how they work but it could be that?
 
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Cartageno

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Also rumors last longer than the state they are talking about. Maybe she was a virgin in game before and that got told?

However, the "suddenly" indeed sounds like something Fluke might want to have a look into.
 
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hi there, a couple of comments on the game, 1. is it possible to make a reminder in the phone about the birthday of all acquaintances or at least friends/close friends?
2. make a return or cancel button, because when changing the time, if a meeting or date is scheduled, then it cannot be canceled or avoided and you have to go through until the meeting is over.
3. put more emphasis on the variety of clothes on the models, as well as their poses or acts, than on the models themselves. and as an option, make them accidentally lift clothes and then adjust clothes

thx
 

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Not sure if I have messed something up but I have a bug with total employees - I have all the employee rooms I can (5 locker rooms and employee seating area), which should allow the maximum 66 employees (which is the achievement), but I only have 63 as my maximum. How do I make up the last 3?
 

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Loaded my new 1.08 save and all of a sudden people keep saying such and such is a virgin.

Last one was my barmaid who is pregnant and has had vaginal sex 10+ times?
I'm going to need more info to go on. Did you muck with save files or the data files?

However, the virgin rumor can predate her getting pregnant. Rumors tend to linger for quite a while. Some rumors are also made up (although I don't think that's one that can be made up).

Hi, Dev, The Birth Control status she says when you use talk -> birth control is very often different from the one you get when you ask during sex sessions. The one from Talk is incorrect given the console outputs and that somehow is the only place I can ask her to change from the incorrect value to the value I don't want (If she is using she will tell you she isn't, and the choice will only be to tell her to start using or to acknowledge her answer).
That's because you can't believe everything a girl says! There's a honor attribute that everyone has that determines for the most part how truthful they are (and how likely they are to steal). If you are having sex with someone they like you enough to be less likely to lie to you. So that's why you are probably getting different answers there. In theory they should lie to you went they want to get pregnant and they think you don't want them to or vice-versa - but that logic isn't in there yet, so it's just based on their honor and some RNG. That said, the differences are too drastic. In the general interaction they will like like 50% of the time on average, which is too high, while in the sex scene is a more reasonable 15% (in both cases the honor attribute adds +/- 25% to it). I will need to review that.

Not sure if I have messed something up but I have a bug with total employees - I have all the employee rooms I can (5 locker rooms and employee seating area), which should allow the maximum 66 employees (which is the achievement), but I only have 63 as my maximum. How do I make up the last 3?
5 lockers + lounge = 66 employees. If your maximum is less than that means that you don't have rooms for them to work on. It means you have filled all your work slots and need to add or upgrade rooms to increase it. (It is possible to build up the club in a way that you can't have that many employees, adding a bunch of private rooms, sex rooms and massage rooms will be an issue as those add either 0 or 1 worker spot.
 
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I'm going to need more info to go on. Did you muck with save files or the data files?

However, the virgin rumour can predate her getting pregnant. Rumours tend to linger for quite a while. Some rumors are also made up (although I don't think that's one that can be made up)
I don't mess with saves at all. She is 56% pregnant, about 5 months? Two other rumours were the same thing about different people, right before this one. Two others were within the last two weeks. One was about the daughter, who is also not a virgin and hasn't been for around 9/10 months.
 
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That's because you can't believe everything a girl says! There's a honor attribute that everyone has that determines for the most part how truthful they are (and how likely they are to steal). If you are having sex with someone they like you enough to be less likely to lie to you. So that's why you are probably getting different answers there. In theory they should lie to you went they want to get pregnant and they think you don't want them to or vice-versa - but that logic isn't in there yet, so it's just based on their honor and some RNG. That said, the differences are too drastic. In the general interaction they will like like 50% of the time on average, which is too high, while in the sex scene is a more reasonable 15% (in both cases the honor attribute adds +/- 25% to it). I will need to review that.
That's a whole lot of awkwardness if you ask her then immediately go intimate and ask her again. If honor is factor into it perhaps just make the responses consistent.
 

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Hi. I've had my eye on this game for a while now (I enjoy business simulation games) and when pregnancy content was added, I waited for a while before giving it a try. And I must say I quite enjoy the game so far. There are a few kinks that I'm sure you're already aware of (charts and graphs anyone?) but nothing that impedes my enjoyment too much.

Just some small feedback:

When choosing certain choices, for example trying to persuade your partner to do something during intercourse, there should be an indication on whose and which stats are being used to determine whether an action would be successful or not. It took me opening up the game files to see that Charm uses the Sociability, Logic and Reason uses Rationality etc.

Maybe put an entry in the help file, or even a sex tutorial, expanding on sex scenes as well? New players won't know early on during intimacy scenes that there is an order to the actions before you can get to the actual sex part, how much energy each action consumes, and what factors affect energy consumption during sex.

There were many a times early on when I thought that I had more than enough energy only to end up tired before I even get to the good stuff. Took me a while to figure stuff out and even then there are many things that I still don't understand.

Also, I've had instances where I've convinced a woman to not take birth control for two months, only to have a scene pop up during a date where you rifle through their stuff to find out that they are taking birth control pills. I understand that there is an honour attribute that affects their honesty when you ask them about their birth control situation but it would be great if I could get some clarification whether or not this extends to convincing them to not take birth control.

Because of this I'm not sure whether or not swapping a person's birth control pills during a date would actually have any effect towards whether or not they would get pregnant down the line.

Another question that I have is regarding non-con and threesome scenes. Is it possible to get STDs, impregnate, or get impregnated (if you're playing as a woman) during these scenes? And if it is possible to get pregnant from these scenes, how long will it take before the player finds out?

Apologies for the long post but I'm really enjoying the game and I foresee a lot more hours spent. Thanks
 
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And since I am here, does anybody know how the "turning bisexual" works? I usually had no problem convincing the ladies of the qualities of the male race, however right now I have a girl who is stuck at 100% bi, male attraction from the console dump is also shown as 100.0, the talking point about her sexuality has disappeared, and any "close encounters" also don't change anything. Do I have to wait for RNG to trigger? But I thought other ones were more quickly to tell me.
 

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Yeah some of them take ages to come out as bi, had some from the early game turned (incl. my younger sister) that was full bi but came out 2 years later...
 

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And since I am here, does anybody know how the "turning bisexual" works? I usually had no problem convincing the ladies of the qualities of the male race, however right now I have a girl who is stuck at 100% bi, male attraction from the console dump is also shown as 100.0, the talking point about her sexuality has disappeared, and any "close encounters" also don't change anything. Do I have to wait for RNG to trigger? But I thought other ones were more quickly to tell me.
If she's now 100% bisexual then doesn't that mean your convincing has already worked to change them so male and female attraction is both 100? Not sure what your goal is with the character though so maybe it is down to some kind of RNG.
 

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How do i get the lv 10 food and alcohol again?
Ater the initial phase which grants me lv10 stuff,it changes to lv3 afterwards.
I tell the personal they should get best quality stuff but its still lv3.
 

TotalFluke

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hi there, a couple of comments on the game, 1. is it possible to make a reminder in the phone about the birthday of all acquaintances or at least friends/close friends?
2. make a return or cancel button, because when changing the time, if a meeting or date is scheduled, then it cannot be canceled or avoided and you have to go through until the meeting is over.
3. put more emphasis on the variety of clothes on the models, as well as their poses or acts, than on the models themselves. and as an option, make them accidentally lift clothes and then adjust clothes

thx
1. Not sure what the point of that would be. There's notification about their birthday that's not currently working but other than that, I don't know what else you would need that info for.

I don't mess with saves at all. She is 56% pregnant, about 5 months? Two other rumours were the same thing about different people, right before this one. Two others were within the last two weeks. One was about the daughter, who is also not a virgin and hasn't been for around 9/10 months.
In all likelihood those are old rumors that took a while to get back to you.

That's a whole lot of awkwardness if you ask her then immediately go intimate and ask her again. If honor is factor into it perhaps just make the responses consistent.
Seriously I wonder why I take the time to respond to people when I say I'm going to look into it and their response is totally ignoring what I just said. Normally I ignore these and try to give people the benefit of the doubt over some language barrier, but geez come on.

Hi. I've had my eye on this game for a while now (I enjoy business simulation games) and when pregnancy content was added, I waited for a while before giving it a try. And I must say I quite enjoy the game so far. There are a few kinks that I'm sure you're already aware of (charts and graphs anyone?) but nothing that impedes my enjoyment too much.

Just some small feedback:

When choosing certain choices, for example trying to persuade your partner to do something during intercourse, there should be an indication on whose and which stats are being used to determine whether an action would be successful or not. It took me opening up the game files to see that Charm uses the Sociability, Logic and Reason uses Rationality etc.

Maybe put an entry in the help file, or even a sex tutorial, expanding on sex scenes as well? New players won't know early on during intimacy scenes that there is an order to the actions before you can get to the actual sex part, how much energy each action consumes, and what factors affect energy consumption during sex.

There were many a times early on when I thought that I had more than enough energy only to end up tired before I even get to the good stuff. Took me a while to figure stuff out and even then there are many things that I still don't understand.

Also, I've had instances where I've convinced a woman to not take birth control for two months, only to have a scene pop up during a date where you rifle through their stuff to find out that they are taking birth control pills. I understand that there is an honour attribute that affects their honesty when you ask them about their birth control situation but it would be great if I could get some clarification whether or not this extends to convincing them to not take birth control.

Because of this I'm not sure whether or not swapping a person's birth control pills during a date would actually have any effect towards whether or not they would get pregnant down the line.

Another question that I have is regarding non-con and threesome scenes. Is it possible to get STDs, impregnate, or get impregnated (if you're playing as a woman) during these scenes? And if it is possible to get pregnant from these scenes, how long will it take before the player finds out?

Apologies for the long post but I'm really enjoying the game and I foresee a lot more hours spent. Thanks
Thanks for the feedback. About the tutorial I'll look into that.

Regarding the birth control issue (and this is true of other cases too), I've tried to give the characters agency. They are not robots for you to control. They have their personalities and those will dictate how they react to situations. In many cases you have ways to modify their personalities to better fit the robot model, but it's not perfect. That said there's some places where I give hints as to their behavior in ways that are not too obvious but I need to do more of those because I understand some this lack of info can be frustrating. However if you do convince them to take them, they will, at least for a while. How long that last depends on other factors (for example, she could be seeing someone else who asks her to stop taking birth control). Swapping the pills out is more effective as that lasts 2 months and there's no option to undo it.

You can get pregnant and STDs from threesomes, although they are less likely. 3Somes don't have the detailed cum scenes which add a significant bonus. Normally the girl finds out in 6 to 8 weeks. How soon after that she will tell you depends on whether she thinks you are the father and whether or not she wants you around.


And since I am here, does anybody know how the "turning bisexual" works? I usually had no problem convincing the ladies of the qualities of the male race, however right now I have a girl who is stuck at 100% bi, male attraction from the console dump is also shown as 100.0, the talking point about her sexuality has disappeared, and any "close encounters" also don't change anything. Do I have to wait for RNG to trigger? But I thought other ones were more quickly to tell me.
So she's fully bi? What else are you looking for? Is it that she didn't tell you? She won't always do that. She only notifies one person so there may be someone else she prefers to tell than you. It's usually the last person she likes that talked about it with her.

How do i get the lv 10 food and alcohol again?
Ater the initial phase which grants me lv10 stuff,it changes to lv3 afterwards.
I tell the personal they should get best quality stuff but its still lv3.
Is your debt. The more debt you have the less quality options you have.
 
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I would like to say that i really appreciate your engagement in this comment section
and cant wait for your next update(y)

" Is your debt. The more debt you have the less quality options you have."

Looks like i find myself in a bad spot :unsure:
I dont want to start over coz i poured plenty of hours in the
current session(and i acomplished some good relations which were time consuming hehe)
so any advice from you or other "club owners" what could be a potentially good/better money income source?
I really want to break through my current downward debt spiral.
Right now i am about to get the minimal club taxes voted,that will save me lil bit of money but still not
enough to make a difference.

Thx in advance
 
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TotalFluke
I would like to say that i really appreciate your engagement in this comment section
and cant wait for your next update(y)

" Is your debt. The more debt you have the less quality options you have."

Looks like i find myself in a bad spot :unsure:
I dont want to start over coz i poured plenty of hours in the
current session(and i acomplished some good relations which were time consuming hehe)
so any advice from you or other "club owners" what could be a potentially good/better money income source?
I really want to break through my current downward debt spiral.
Right now i am about to get the minimal club taxes voted,that will save me lil bit of money but still not
enough to make a difference.

Thx in advance
I've found usually hiring too many people early on is the main cause of debt.
Best way to make money is to improve reputation (amount of customers).
Office type jobs are really expensive, but can improve your reputation quickly (marketing) and also hiring or improving your employees to at least 60-70 skill in their job will make sure rep doesn't usually go down.
Its a slow waiting game unless you change the default settings to increase starting rep or how often people go out/how much money they can spend.
 

Alexander_J

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Jul 3, 2024
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Regarding the birth control issue (and this is true of other cases too), I've tried to give the characters agency. They are not robots for you to control. They have their personalities and those will dictate how they react to situations. In many cases you have ways to modify their personalities to better fit the robot model, but it's not perfect. That said there's some places where I give hints as to their behavior in ways that are not too obvious but I need to do more of those because I understand some this lack of info can be frustrating. However if you do convince them to take them, they will, at least for a while. How long that last depends on other factors (for example, she could be seeing someone else who asks her to stop taking birth control). Swapping the pills out is more effective as that lasts 2 months and there's no option to undo it.
Thanks for the clarification. That's actually helpful. I'm guilty of thinking them as robots for me to control. It's cool to know that other NPCs can also affect their decision making. It does make it more challenging but not in a unfun way IMO. With regards to hints about NPC behaviour, putting what you just said somewhere, like the help section, that these characters are not robots that you control, and that other NPC can also affect their decision making, is actually very helpful I would think.

I guess some of the frustrations comes from the fact that you're kind of stumbling along without knowing whether what you're doing is effective or not. Take changing someone's opinion. I still don't know which stats affects the success rate. And each action takes one time period, you have to be strategic about whose opinions do you need to change now versus later.

Also it's good to know that 3somes can cause pregnancies and spread STDs. I've had a scene with a confirmed lesbian telling me that I was the father of her child. We only had one threesome and there wasn't even a scene where I came inside her haha. So it's good to know that it's possible.

With that being said, I'd like it if there was an option to use a condom to prevent transmission or impregnation. Currently I don't think there isn't. You either decline the threesome with those you know to be 'loose' when the STD spread starts or gamble.

Also I have a related question. Does the sleep rape scenes carry impregnation and STD risks as well? Similar to the threesomes? I assume it does but confirmation would be nice.
 

Alexander_J

Newbie
Jul 3, 2024
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TotalFluke
I would like to say that i really appreciate your engagement in this comment section
and cant wait for your next update(y)

" Is your debt. The more debt you have the less quality options you have."

Looks like i find myself in a bad spot :unsure:
I dont want to start over coz i poured plenty of hours in the
current session(and i acomplished some good relations which were time consuming hehe)
so any advice from you or other "club owners" what could be a potentially good/better money income source?
I really want to break through my current downward debt spiral.
Right now i am about to get the minimal club taxes voted,that will save me lil bit of money but still not
enough to make a difference.

Thx in advance
Profits is Revenue-Overhead where Overhead is the cost of running your business. If you're in the red, there are a few things you can do, chiefly by cutting costs and increasing revenue. Without knowing your exact financial situation, what you can do is reduce the operating hours.

It'll reduce your utility bill and the working hours of your employees. You pay them for every hour that they work. The less hours they work, the less money that comes out of your pocket. It might sound counter intuitive but for every hour they work while you are not profitable, is another hour of you bleeding money. Only extend the operating hours once you know that you're bringing in more money than you're spending for every hour that you're open.

You can also give them days off. Who ever takes the day off, you can sub in and do their job for them. Early in my games, I made sure to give them two days off per pay period but only on Sundays until Thursdays. This ensures that they are working during the weekends, when the traffic is high, and I don't lose too much money if everyone takes the day off on the same day (which has happened to me though rarely) since I can work as a bartender and still make some money. It saves you a few hundred dollars, depending on the hourly wage, per employee per pay period which can be critical in staying or clawing out of the red.

Next is you might need to fire some people. Top of my mind is you can actually get away with just having one Bartender, one Singer, and one Cook early on while you work on being profitable. Take the opinion hit because you can always build that back later. What's more important is to return to profitability. You can always shower them with gifts once you're rich haha.

And you don't always need the best and the lewdest employees early on. They can always be replaced later. But if you're a sentimental fool like me, you can keep them and train them up like I did. Though I still don't know how to actively increase their lewdness haha.

Hopefully this helps you salvage your run and good luck.
 
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