VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

Ragnar · Tuesday at 9:14 PM

It's out.

annal · Tuesday at 9:18 PM

Need a Hero !

Krytax123 · Tuesday at 9:18 PM

RoryTate said:
This is the old "realism vs escapism" argument in art/entertainment. And the interesting thing here is that no one who defends the escapism position (like myself) has ever wanted zero realism in a game (although many on the other side do lobby for zero escapism unfortunately). From realistic and believable characters to realistic mechanics, I – and many others who enjoy escapism in our stories – always appreciate the time and effort taken to make something feel authentic. However, there is a point at which "too much" realism ruins the enjoyment of fiction. Because if a story or game offers nothing different than what we experience in our day-to-day lives, then there is no reason to engage with it.

The best stories are able to find a good balance between the two ideals. They have a reasonable amount of realism, but provide a comfortable escapist framework that minimizes frustrating consequences or limitations that people often wish weren't present in the real world. I think STWA: The Unbroken is pretty much a perfect mix of the two. For example, most people aren't nearly as tall as Valentine (I think he stands close to 2 meters tall, which is something that not even a very tall man like myself – standing at 191 cm – can claim), and it is enjoyable for many to imagine themselves without that limitation of having a set height for a brief period of time in their lives.

You really dont have to write a research paper about simple topics like that (if you enjoy it fine).

Im obviously not for "zero escapism" as (as you explained yourself) im fine with the mc being a gary sue player who's handsome, rich and a chill, cool guy. So i really dont see the point about all the people advocating for zero, every avn has escapism do a degree and everyone is fine with it.

But this is an AVN where the main aspect is the relationship building (with additinional mma) so its kinda important to potray this aspect somewhat believeable.

For you its apparently wholesome or whatever when a LI doesnt mind the mc fucking other girls all the time, for me its damaging (or even destroying) the character of said LI.

If you arent hurt/jealous/pissed/whatever when the person you crush on fucks other people .. how is anyone even supposed to believe there are feelings in the first place at all involved?

And im not nessecarily saying that Els (in this example) should "break up" (i know they arent really a couple yet) about it with valentine but there should be at least consequences even if its just a talk/discussion or whatever about it.

Otherwise all these girl are just dumb wish fullfilment bots and feel like that. And we already have harem avn's for that itch (collecting girls like pokeballs).

RoryTate said:
And while you may choose to characterize this type of fiction with the pejorative of "a 12-year-old's fantasy", the reality is that this is many adult men's fantasy, because – and I'm going to put this fairly bluntly – there is absolutely nothing childish, problematic, gross, harmful or wrong with enjoying imagined situations in a fictional story that can't or are unlikely to occur within our limited timespans upon this Earth. /end rant

Depends obviously at the fantasy but even if youre right it usually still makes storys very boring whichs seems to be your thing.

cxx · Tuesday at 9:19 PM

annal said:
Need a Hero !

it will be here this week.

Jular · Tuesday at 9:39 PM

Now we wait

Driver22 · Tuesday at 10:04 PM

Can we just post a link in the comments if we have it?

Jular · Tuesday at 10:07 PM

Driver22 said:
Can we just post a link in the comments if we have it?

Yes

Driver22 · Tuesday at 10:15 PM

Ah well I need a few more posts first.

Driver22 · Tuesday at 10:16 PM

And one more.

Driver22 · Tuesday at 10:16 PM

There we go.