VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

[Ragnar]

So, first game that I would rather the game slow down if not outright remove the sex scenes because they actually kinda detracted from the character relationships, like, that you have sex with Vi before you learn their traumatic experience kinda cheapens Cal's guilty conscience and makes it a non issue in their relationship as it feels like you are already past the point where that guilt would have an effect. Ditto all the other girls sans Els, as while there is 'love' there, it is coated in invisible toxicity ready to unleash some juicy drama.

I also think being a man whore without consequences kinda cheapens Cal's character as his development felt a little unearned as you kinda continue being the guy that you were at your lowest but I understand that this would make for a very different game.

Vi and Cal trauma is past history by now, I mean there are still some traumas about it but that was a long time ago. They have learned to live with it and moved on with their lives. Now they're discovering another layer to their relationship, sex and love.
Elspeth route feels like if she sees Carl as her port in the storm. She has ghosts from her past to deal with just like Carl, so yeah, I expect drama there because they're broken.
Last point depends on how you play. I have a save being loyal to Els, Carl's monologues are about how he wants to change when confronted with free pussy and he stays loyal..

 

[Rehwyn]

So, first game that I would rather the game slow down if not outright remove the sex scenes because they actually kinda detracted from the character relationships, like, that you have sex with Vi before you learn their traumatic experience kinda cheapens Cal's guilty conscience and makes it a non issue in their relationship as it feels like you are already past the point where that guilt would have an effect. Ditto all the other girls sans Els, as while there is 'love' there, it is coated in invisible toxicity ready to unleash some juicy drama.

I also think being a man whore without consequences kinda cheapens Cal's character as his development felt a little unearned as you kinda continue being the guy that you were at your lowest but I understand that this would make for a very different game.

It's worth noting that you don't have to have sex the first time it becomes available with the main LIs, so you have some control regarding how fast things get sexually intimate. For example, for Vi if you don't initiate sex in Mallorca she'll eventually initiate it herself after you get home. Only if you reject her then do you end up in the permanent friend zone. Similar branched paths are available for Amrit, Els, and Kana.

I actually just checked, and if you take your time with each main LI, the first time you have sex with each LI is Ch 5 for Amrit, Ch 7 for Kana and Vi, and still haven't with Els. For Ines, we can't really know for sure since her first opportunity for sex (of any form) was in the Ch 7 (the latest release, and it was some oral and thighjob), but it's worth noting if you don't initiate it there, it doesn't toggle any "permanentfriendzone" variable, which is eventually what happens if you reject the others too many times, so it's a pretty safe assumption there will be future opportunities.

 

[Krytax123]

I also think being a man whore without consequences kinda cheapens Cal's character as his development felt a little unearned as you kinda continue being the guy that you were at your lowest but I understand that this would make for a very different game.

For me its less that its necessarily cheapens Valentina's character but it cheapens the LI's characters for me when they just go along with it without any jealousy or serious talks about it.

I dont buy that a woman like Elspeth says: "Okay i really love this man, were going on dates and i introduced him to my rich old money dad, hes still fucking college girls and every other slut in town but im gonna compete with them and win!" ... just nah.

And its a bit unlucky because in theory the avn gives Valentine a reason to be like that, unable to commit because the women he loved died, thats imo a valid reason which could make the LI's be a bit understanding about not trying to pinpoint him.

But non of the LI's know about it, only Vi since mallorca ... i think it would help Els potrayal if she would be aware of Zaina's death and who she was to the Valentine (which she may is, we will see).

 

[Bombmaster]

The lack of consequences from being a manwhore for now is fine, would enjoy if by leading lets say Els.
Her ending is worse, sad. Even a death flag.

 

[Rehwyn]

The lack of consequences from being a manwhore for now is fine, would enjoy if by leading lets say Els.
Her ending is worse, sad. Even a death flag.

It seems extremely unlikely that there will be an ending with consequences that severe for sleeping around pre-commitment, given what I mentioned a few posts ago:

Per the dev on Discord:

I try not punish people for exploring options. In general most girls won't care who you screw unless you've made a commitment to them. Or If you screw somebody they hate, that might put a damper on things.

 

[mansy5mans]

What does desire to protect point mean with lnes?

 

[Bombmaster]

Rehwyn
After Reading the L bombs from Els path i dont imagine how to exit that ship.

Maybe the plot is going into Cal+ Els main wife and approved gfs. I cant imagine a organic way to fully reject her after leading to this point.

Having a sad end would be kino for me being a drama queen.

 

[Rehwyn]

What does desire to protect point mean with lnes?

So far, there isn't any in-game effect from them, but it's generally understood that they represent Ines's desire to protect Vi. So if the MC makes choices that reinforce the image of him being a womanizer, Ines get's more protective since she knows how strongly Vi feels about MC and doesn't want her getting hurt.

 

[Rehwyn]

Rehwyn
After Reading the L bombs from Els path i dont imagine how to exit that ship.

Maybe the plot is going into Cal+ Els main wife and approved gfs. I cant imagine a organic way to fully reject her after leading to this point.

Having a sad end would be kino for me being a drama queen.

Having recently played the prior game The Author, I just don't see it. If this game is anything like that one, you'll be able to heavily pursue all the main LIs up until a point where you have to commit to one (or a throuple). Sleeping around before that point didn't have any real negative outcomes in the endings, though because of branching scene choices, you might not have had enough relationship points to have one of the LIs as a commitment option.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but from what I can tell about the dev, they like to include heavy topics in their narratives, but trend towards optimistic endings where the characters have made progress towards healing.

 

[Thamus]

something is preventing game.exe to load, it can be antivirus or microsoft defender.

Thank you! This is actually what it was. It wasn't moving the .exe's into the Quarantine like usual, it was just blocking it completely.

 

[Skeltom]

Having recently played the prior game The Author, I just don't see it. If this game is anything like that one, you'll be able to heavily pursue all the main LIs up until a point where you have to commit to one (or a throuple). Sleeping around before that point didn't have any real negative outcomes in the endings, though because of branching scene choices, you might not have had enough relationship points to have one of the LIs as a commitment option.

Maybe I'll be proven wrong, but from what I can tell about the dev, they like to include heavy topics in their narratives, but trend towards optimistic endings where the characters have made progress towards healing.

I'm not too sure about the lack of relationship points. It's much, much harder to just be someone's friend in this. If the MC is ever so slightly affectionate or a slightly good person the LIs are head over heels for him. It kind of makes it a chore to get the friend version of some scenes. Which is too bad because the roof top friend scene with Els is way more romantic than the over sexualized pool scene for her "love". I get that it's an AVN but they all revolve around sex in the end, there is no "getting to know", If you don't sleep with them you don't progress with the relationship. It doesn't matter what their love is.

As for not punishing the players for testing the waters, that's all it's ever been so far. You are never given the option to say you want more so it's pretty irrelevant up to this point. You can say you love two of them but it's still all just casual sex with whoever.

 

[Rehwyn]

As for not punishing the players for testing the waters, that's all it's ever been so far. You are never given the option to say you want more so it's pretty irrelevant up to this point. You can say you love two of them but it's still all just casual sex with whoever.

I think with Kana, you have the opportunity to tell her you're only after her, but that's so far only had minor consequences if not true.

We're also on update 7 of a planned 12-14, so I'm not super surprised we haven't had the opportunity to commit yet.

 

[truthjgw]

Gallery mod is up to date.

For me the gallery_mod folder is missing and the doesn't work for me currently

 

[troll822]

Is that a type in the changelog, or there are 51 animations in this update?

 

[Abhai]

Is that a type in the changelog, or there are 51 animations in this update?

probably a typo...there are 96 animations in total.
all of those are put in the same folder and arent labelled per chapter/part so it is kinda hard to separate them.
regardless, majority of animations seem to be "older", so highly unlikely there are 51 animations just in this latest chapter.

 

[Krytax123]

probably a typo...there are 96 animations in total.
all of those are put in the same folder and arent labelled per chapter/part so it is kinda hard to separate them. regardless, majority of animations seem to be "older", so highly unlikely there are 51 animations just in this latest chapter.

96 sounds kinda low for the whole avn or am i wrong?

Unfortunaly the animations are by far the worst part of the avn anyway so i dont really care that much

 

[Rehwyn]

Is that a type in the changelog, or there are 51 animations in this update?

probably a typo...there are 96 animations in total.
all of those are put in the same folder and arent labelled per chapter/part so it is kinda hard to separate them.
regardless, majority of animations seem to be "older", so highly unlikely there are 51 animations just in this latest chapter.

96 sounds kinda low for the whole avn or am i wrong?

Unfortunaly the animations are by far the worst part of the avn anyway so i dont really care that much

Based on name and file date, it looks like there's 20 new animation files for Chapter 7, but many of these are a "Supercut" that consists of 2-3 animations chained together into a longer video file. So it actually is believable to me that if you count the individual animations in a supercut separately that there were 51 new animations. And the animation quality actually seemed a good bit better in Chapter 7 to me in most cases.

P.S. There's a lot of potential sex in Chapter 7, if you haven't guessed based on the animation count.

 

[Abhai]

Based on name and file date, it looks like there's 20 new animation files for Chapter 7, but many of these are a "Supercut" that consists of 2-3 animations chained together into a longer video file. So it actually is believable to me that if you count the individual animations in a supercut separately that there were 51 new animations. And the animation quality actually seemed a good bit better in Chapter 7 to me in most cases.

P.S. There's a lot of potential sex in Chapter 7, if you haven't guessed based on the animation count.

what "name", - "Viridiana1Cam1", "Viridiana1Cam2", "Viridiana1Cam3", "Viridiana2Cam1" etc?
most of those animations are 9-10s long...not sure about "supercuts consisting of 2-3 animations chained together" (to make those 9-10s lengthy animations), yet even if that would be true it is more like counting how many renders every animations has and then counting them as total images/renders count for update.

personally dont care much about animations, checked it out only to answer question from above.
the game is good, it isnt lacking in scenes either, so from my side i can only wish for more games at this quality level.

 

[Rehwyn]

what "name", - "Viridiana1Cam1", "Viridiana1Cam2", "Viridiana1Cam3", "Viridiana2Cam1" etc?
most of those animations are 9-10s long...not sure about "supercuts consisting of 2-3 animations chained together" (to make those 9-10s lengthy animations), yet even if that would be true it is more like counting how many renders every animations has and then counting them as total images/renders count for update.

personally dont care much about animations, checked it out only to answer question from above.
the game is good, it isnt lacking in scenes either, so from my side i can only wish for more games at this quality level.

Spoiler: Part 7 scene spoilers

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Those are the names I mean (not sure why the Ines ones don't have PartSeven in the name, but they're also in this update). Most of these are closer to 24-36 seconds long also, essentially made up of the equivalent of 3 animations from previous updates cut together with a camera shift differentiating them.

 

[Abhai]

Spoiler: Part 7 scene spoilers

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

Those are the names I mean (not sure why the Ines ones don't have PartSeven in the name, but they're also in this update). Most of these are closer to 24-36 seconds long also, essentially made up of the equivalent of 3 animations from previous updates cut together with a camera shift differentiating them.

hmm, yeah probably your explanation is a valid one.
yet as the final product we have animations (files) regardless of its length, pretty much could be compared to my example of animations renders or so.
seems a bit deceiving to count those parts as standalone things, imo ofc.