VN Ren'Py STWA: Unbroken [Pt. 7] [STWAdev]

[Krytax123]

On the one hand, I agree that Val obviously has more general life and sex experience than the 3 younger LIs. On the other hand, he only has slightly more experience than them in serious relationships and lags behind where other 28-year-olds might be in some regards due to his trauma etc. So I think arguments could be made for the age gap to be less of an issue than it might otherwise be.

I think part of the "problem" is that Valentine simply feels older than 28. A relationship between a 28yo and a 20 or 21yo isnt even unusual imo, pretty normal stuff.

But they feel way further apart, due to Valentine having all these life experiences, being very successful and wealthy, had to kill countless people, found and lost the love of his life, was close to suicide, while they are girls fresh out of a girls school.

Valentine feels more like he's 35 (same with els and mcnab) while amrit, vi and ines feel like they are fresh 18, neither of them ever saw a cock in their life lol

 

[Mike the Red]

Here is an updated version of my scorebar mod (though the old one should still work with chapter seven). Since the last chapter of the game, I had forgotten what the abbreviations were, so I added a popup when you hover over them to tell you what each of them mean. I also updated Kana to her new color scheme. To install, just drop the RPY file in the "game" folder.

 

[cxx]

I've noticed that about this game as well, it's nearly impossible to turn down the LIs in this game. I assume the dev has a specific plan for the story that revolves around the MC being entangled with specific, or all, LIs. It's mildly frustrating but, as I am really enjoying the game, I'm willing to see where he's taking it.

same thing on Author, besides few cases where mc had to choose specific girl to see scene but still coud date all girls to end (well to endings).

 

[HonoredEx]

Yeah, I can mostly agree, though I think how "clean" Amrit and Vi paths feel depends a lot on when you first have sex.

For example, if Val propositions Vi in Mallorca it definitely feels more pushy (even though she enthusiastically consents) than if you wait. When waiting, the first time is when she's not nearly as emotionally charged as having just confessed her love and she initiates it very deliberately and unprompted by Val. And her dialogue leaves little doubt it's something she's thought deeply about and decided she wants for herself and right at that moment. If you also didn't have sex with Els in Mallorca, than Vi is also less aware or concerned she might be "falling behind" in competition.

Obviously there's still conflict there because of the issues you mentioned, but it feels much cleaner still.

Well that sounds a bit better esp with what I read here about the christmas thing, I never went after Vi in my play so that part is skipped over for me. But glad you agree about the power-dynamics stuff still being there.

And now begins the 7-8 month wait... haiz..

 

[Matt2012021]

Been wondering if at the end of the update the body lying next Elspeth is her brother would explain a lot if it turns out to be him

 

[RoryTate]

Been wondering if at the end of the update the body lying next Elspeth is her brother would explain a lot if it turns out to be him

From what we've been told, Els' brother died before she joined the army, and in fact the only reason she enlisted was because he wasn't around to "serve the Crown" for the Adair family. Els and both her parents accept that he's dead, plus presumably her entire family and many others as well, so I think it's rather unlikely he's somehow still among the living.

 

[Skeltom]

From what we've been told, Els' brother died before she joined the army, and in fact the only reason she enlisted was because he wasn't around to "serve the Crown" for the Adair family. Els and both her parents accept that he's dead, plus presumably her entire family and many others as well, so I think it's rather unlikely he's somehow still among the living.

Do they know he is dead? I thought for sure she said her brother was presumably in the same place as his friend. You only see a casket so I assumed he was MIA but presumed dead. Maybe I misread it.

 

[MiltonPowers]

I've noticed that about this game as well, it's nearly impossible to turn down the LIs in this game. I assume the dev has a specific plan for the story that revolves around the MC being entangled with specific, or all, LIs. It's mildly frustrating but, as I am really enjoying the game, I'm willing to see where he's taking it.

It's very common. I get that lots of Devs want to follow the main story path which involves all LIs whether you are romancing or not. There is not many Devs that successfully run a friend route alongside a romance route for a LI. It can be so frustrating that you are on a friend path, yet constantly have to get the same dialogue as the romance. Turn someone down, yet MC is constantly drooling over them with thoughts and spoken words. I'm not a dev, but I would have thought a friend variable that skips the lust dialogue wouldn't be that difficult. But considering, only a few do it, maybe it is hard.

 

[RoryTate]

Do they know he is dead? I thought for sure she said her brother was presumably in the same place as his friend. You only see a casket so I assumed he was MIA but presumed dead. Maybe I misread it.

When Vi asks Els about her brother (in their very first heart-to-heart by the pool), the conversation is indeed a bit cryptic:

e "My brother was a lot like yours. It was no different than looking in a screwed up mirror."
v "Your brother ... ?"
e "My parents first born, and presumably in the same place as yours."

Later, Elspeth's father and mother talk about having buried Thomas (Els' brother) in a flashback from Els' POV, and then even later after that in a conversation with the MC, Els' father says the following:

da "My son was not a good person. Petty theft, drugs, cheating and various other crimes."
da "They were youthful issues, though. Or, at least, that's what I told myself. I'd hoped he'd grow out of them."
da "When he enlisted I told myself that he'd changed himself for the better."
mc "He hadn't?"
da "No, he just became more of what he was. And he paid for it with his life."

So it appears he wasn't killed in combat, but instead because of some serious criminal activity. Initially, I wondered too if Els' slippery wording of "presumably in the same place as yours" left an opening for Thomas to be alive, but after these other bits of dialog followed that conversation I changed around to thinking that she actively suspects Davis is alive.

 

[Old Grumpy Wolf]

It's very common. I get that lots of Devs want to follow the main story path which involves all LIs whether you are romancing or not. There is not many Devs that successfully run a friend route alongside a romance route for a LI. It can be so frustrating that you are on a friend path, yet constantly have to get the same dialogue as the romance. Turn someone down, yet MC is constantly drooling over them with thoughts and spoken words. I'm not a dev, but I would have thought a friend variable that skips the lust dialogue wouldn't be that difficult. But considering, only a few do it, maybe it is hard.

It's not hard. I won't say it's lazy coding, it's more like codes get lost over time. I'm guilty of it also.

 

[Rehwyn]

It's very common. I get that lots of Devs want to follow the main story path which involves all LIs whether you are romancing or not. There is not many Devs that successfully run a friend route alongside a romance route for a LI. It can be so frustrating that you are on a friend path, yet constantly have to get the same dialogue as the romance. Turn someone down, yet MC is constantly drooling over them with thoughts and spoken words. I'm not a dev, but I would have thought a friend variable that skips the lust dialogue wouldn't be that difficult. But considering, only a few do it, maybe it is hard.

If you look at the Unbroken script, there's actually quite a lot of dialogue specific to Friend paths for the main LIs. It's just kind of hard to get them because you need their Friend points to be greater than Love points, which can be hard to do unless you avoid most all the more flirty, playful, physically affectionate actions.

 

[MiltonPowers]

If you look at the Unbroken script, there's actually quite a lot of dialogue specific to Friend paths for the main LIs. It's just kind of hard to get them because you need their Friend points to be greater than Love points, which can be hard to do unless you avoid most all the more flirty, playful, physically affectionate actions.

I wasn't referring specifically to Unbroken. I was speaking more in general terms and how frustrating and annoying it can be.

 

[HonoredEx]

Also love the magical hairwork that happened here

 

[Mike the Red]

It's very common. I get that lots of Devs want to follow the main story path which involves all LIs whether you are romancing or not. There is not many Devs that successfully run a friend route alongside a romance route for a LI. It can be so frustrating that you are on a friend path, yet constantly have to get the same dialogue as the romance. Turn someone down, yet MC is constantly drooling over them with thoughts and spoken words. I'm not a dev, but I would have thought a friend variable that skips the lust dialogue wouldn't be that difficult. But considering, only a few do it, maybe it is hard.

It's not hard, just very tedious.

 

[Skeltom]

It's not hard, just very tedious.

It's no harder or tedious than using any other variable in these things and if writing additional dialogue to represent that it too much work than said person probably shouldn't be making VNs. Not saying that is happening here, just in general.

 

[maroek]

For those who aren't familiar with French Language and culture... I don't know how she sounds but I know what she's singing.

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[Rehwyn]

For those who aren't familiar with French Language and culture... I don't know how she sounds but I know what she's singing.

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Yeah, for full effect in that scene, I quickly pulled up that song as background music.

 

[Rehwyn]

On a related note, anyone else feel that even though Ines is obviously inexperienced in relationships and expressing herself that way, in many other ways she's one of the most emotionally mature members of the group, despite being the youngest? Honestly not that surprising considering the trauma the others have had.

 

[ModiThorrson]

On a related note, anyone else feel that even though Ines is obviously inexperienced in relationships and expressing herself that way, in many other ways she's one of the most emotionally mature members of the group, despite being the youngest? Honestly not that surprising considering the trauma the others have had.

I've always been an Amrit fan, mostly cause I'm into tattooed women, but ines is quickly becoming my favorite. She was always attractive but the more of her personality they show, the more I like her.

 

[Rehwyn]

I've always been an Amrit fan, mostly cause I'm into tattooed women, but ines is quickly becoming my favorite. She was always attractive but the more of her personality they show, the more I like her.

Yeah, agreed on both points. Not sure which LI is my favorite yet, but Ines definitely grew on me a lot in update 7. Good news is it wouldn't surprise me at all if Amrit+Ines is one of the throuples paths.