Milliardo

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Or, counter point, the absolute least authoritative source of what Studio Fow promised in the past would be studio fow in the present.

Followed closely of course by VValen, the Fow Stan with his easily documentable discord track record and thread behavior. We have the screen grabs, archives, and pre release promotional material saying otherwise. And all the other media sources shared and fostered to say things "they didn't say" that directly led to backer perception and support.

Some of the new "descriptions" also make the "no NTR" (nonplayer sex in front of the player current tag definition) thing even more a lie in the face of "(paraphrasing) the captain's away so now I have to fuck these tentacles" and other such gems. On top of the fact nothing is optional, just not unlockable. Some of the new descriptions make that pretty clear it's happening and you as the captain must be viewing it after the fact. The equivalent of not having to watch a certain red horned demon pay your wife a visit. Different strokes, but considering the captain has a "I cucked you fair and square" world view, he in narrative would view himself as a cuckold over the goings on in his own ship even if you the player are just along for the ride as a 4th wall observer. (People also generally don't like a character done dirty like that, but this gets into the writing and it's whole other set of issues.)

Didn't have to be like this either. Wildlife has a nifty solution, in their storymode it's strongly hinted you're going to ultimately become a beastman and you'll be able to watch all the scenes from a first person PoV and/or player perspective. Sandbox play you already can pilot and play the beast characters. Other games roll out a similar "you have a new body and/or were always a dragon and/or..." narrative framing that makes the player or a player foil the one getting laid in most content (that think subverse unilaterally lacks)

They had the perfect solution here too, you the genetic progenitor of all the mantics pilot them in battle and they're otherwise passive and nonsapient as stated. The whole "living bred weapons loyal to one commander" plot is kind of wrapped up in this sort of thing. Easy framing from there is first person/3rd person PoV monster sex of the player as the monster. Considering the fact the target demographic of Fow content was and still is furries/beast enthusiasts many/most people would probably have preferred the captain as a means to one end: having a dragondildo dong via such a narrative framing.

It could have been part of this update with the little dialogue descriptions in leu of actually making the scenes contextual, which would have explicitly made mantic sex MC content and interrelate it with the combat playloops. Instead here we are.
Or they just could make the scenes be part of the story so if you don't choose it didn't happen and is not referenced in game. I agree with you on the point it doesn't matter if you see or not if the game says that happens well it happens.

The idea that the MC can turn on the xenos is ok if it is an option. But they chose to say “No we just going to deliver what we intended not we marked”
 

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Well good thing there's a filter, so you don't have to see them. Captain will get some quality scenes eventually, since the devotion quests for each girl cap off with a lengthy romance scene :)
Now I never post on this site and I know I'm clearly not the target audience for this game, but this has got to be some of the (unintentionally?) funniest shit I've ever read so I feel like I have to comment on it.

How does a romance quest/option or whatever fit into a game where said "romantic interests" regularly fuck everything with a dick in the galaxy, whether the player wants to or not? Like what the actual fuck; is the player character gonna ask the doctor out for a romantic dinner after he walks in on her getting spitroasted by Jabba the Hutt and some dogalien?
Or how about watching a movie and then some missionary afterwards with the robot chick before she goes off to get gangbanged by a spacelizard and a tentaclemonster? :KEK:
 

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Or they just could make the scenes be part of the story so if you don't choose it didn't happen and is not referenced in game. I agree with you on the point it doesn't matter if you see or not if the game says that happens well it happens.

The idea that the MC can turn on the xenos is ok if it is an option. But they chose to say “No we just going to deliver what we intended not we marked”
Yep that's what a number of us have said since the launch - some kind of choice system would have handled it just fine for all parties and had the scenes directly integrated into the narrative based on those selections the player would make, but instead it's shoe-horned in to the story via dialogue and codex. Oh well. Just thankful for F95 to discover these things before getting my wallet out.
 

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Anybody collect all the sex scenes into one video or at least divided for each for character?
 

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Very nice argument. You tend to reply like this whenever there's no easy way out, don't you? Would it be better if I mentioned Demonion, Dohna Dohna, or any of the other hundreds of hentai games with tons of real gameplay systems behind them? I could even mention a couple of western porn games too, if that suits you.

You can fuck the girls in your crew or choose to let them fuck other people in Demonion too. And before you try making the argument I think you'll make, no, I'm not implying Subverse should be a carbon copy of these games.
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Was reading comments here and actually would be grateful if you could recommend some finished games with interesting gameplay that happen to be porn games. Got burned out of all the "in development" crap on this site when "devs" dripfeed content 1 scene in 6 month without any gameplay.
 

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Was reading comments here and actually would be grateful if you could recommend some finished games with interesting gameplay that happen to be porn games. Got burned out of all the "in development" crap on this site when "devs" dripfeed content 1 scene in 6 month without any gameplay.
look up alchemy meister, or himigari dungeon meister, or anything really by eushelly. Or Alicesoft. Like Evenicle.
 

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Now I never post on this site and I know I'm clearly not the target audience for this game, but this has got to be some of the (unintentionally?) funniest shit I've ever read so I feel like I have to comment on it.

How does a romance quest/option or whatever fit into a game where said "romantic interests" regularly fuck everything with a dick in the galaxy, whether the player wants to or not? Like what the actual fuck; is the player character gonna ask the doctor out for a romantic dinner after he walks in on her getting spitroasted by Jabba the Hutt and some dogalien?
Or how about watching a movie and then some missionary afterwards with the robot chick before she goes off to get gangbanged by a spacelizard and a tentaclemonster? :KEK:
I mean...yeah? It's pretty well established the girls are some horny Sheila's (as the captain calls them). And if the Captain (who isn't an insert for the player, as I doubt everyone here is Australian) is fine with it, then it isn't NTR. It's a poly-amorous harem.

Hell the captain recalls 'tag-teaming that Nikith hooker' with Erark, so clearly the dude isn't shy about sharing women.
 

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Was reading comments here and actually would be grateful if you could recommend some finished games with interesting gameplay that happen to be porn games. Got burned out of all the "in development" crap on this site when "devs" dripfeed content 1 scene in 6 month without any gameplay.
May not be interesting gameplay-wise, but I'm a fan of NLT's works, Lust Epidemic is finished, and Treasure of Nadia is nearly done, and they'll soon start the 3rd part of their long story, the Genesis Order I believe its named.
 
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Milliardo

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I mean...yeah? It's pretty well established the girls are some horny Sheila's (as the captain calls them). And if the Captain (who isn't an insert for the player, as I doubt everyone here is Australian) is fine with it, then it isn't NTR. It's a poly-amorous harem.

Hell the captain recalls 'tag-teaming that Nikith hooker' with Erark, so clearly the dude isn't shy about sharing women.
Well one more time we have a very poorly communicated part from the devs there is a lot of “You’s” on the marketing and not a lot of “the capitan” so leads people to believe the captain is a self inset. This is the same response they gave “Is not NTR because you are not in a relationship”.
 

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Well one more time we have a very poorly communicated part from the devs there is a lot of “You’s” on the marketing and not a lot of “the capitan” so leads people to believe the captain is a self inset. This is the same response they gave “Is not NTR because you are not in a relationship”.
Certainly not a normal one. Is the Captain cheating on DEMI everytime a new girl came on board and he boned them?
 

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Certainly not a normal one. Is the Captain cheating on DEMI everytime a new girl came on board and he boned them?
Well that's the harem part "It is a harem fantasy after all.". My point is not that they are making a bad product but they are not making what people they market, and I am using these because it is one very easy point to illustrate. and one more time they push lines that say the char is a “self-insert” “Just in case it wasn’t absolutely clear, you can bang your team members. Are we good now? Okay.”
 

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Well self-inserts are generally custom characters (say the Shepards in Mass Effect), or a silent/unnamed/masked protagonist (Souls series, DOOM, Issac Clarke in the first Dead Space). Given its definition, you can see why its silly for folks to treat this game's protagonist as such.
That's not exactly true. You don't need customize a char or be silent to be a “self-insert” what you are talking about is a blank slate character. One you can build from the ground to be your character the other is created to accommodate the player.
The Courier(Fallout New Vegas) is a blank slate
The Lone Survivor(Fallout 4) is self-insert
 

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That's not exactly true. You don't need customize a char or be silent to be a “self-insert” what you are talking about is a blank slate character. One you can build from the ground to be your character the other is created to accommodate the player.
The Courier(Fallout New Vegas) is a blank slate
The Lone Survivor(Fallout 4) is self-insert
In either case the captain doesn't suit them, as he isn't a blank slate, having his own personality and history, there's no moral choice system so we can't change how he's viewed by others.
 
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Does anyone have a list of which gifts best fit which waifus currently in the game? I'm being cautious about it by using the very obvious gifts for the pirate and fashion girls, but am unsure with the other two.
 
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