Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Deleted member 324588]

Well one more time we have a very poorly communicated part from the devs there is a lot of “You’s” on the marketing and not a lot of “the capitan” so leads people to believe the captain is a self inset. This is the same response they gave “Is not NTR because you are not in a relationship”.

Certainly not a normal one. Is the Captain cheating on DEMI everytime a new girl came on board and he boned them?

 

[Milliardo]

Certainly not a normal one. Is the Captain cheating on DEMI everytime a new girl came on board and he boned them?

Well that's the harem part "It is a harem fantasy after all.". My point is not that they are making a bad product but they are not making what people they market, and I am using these because it is one very easy point to illustrate. and one more time they push lines that say the char is a “self-insert” “Just in case it wasn’t absolutely clear, you can bang your team members. Are we good now? Okay.”

 

[Milliardo]

Well self-inserts are generally custom characters (say the Shepards in Mass Effect), or a silent/unnamed/masked protagonist (Souls series, DOOM, Issac Clarke in the first Dead Space). Given its definition, you can see why its silly for folks to treat this game's protagonist as such.

That's not exactly true. You don't need customize a char or be silent to be a “self-insert” what you are talking about is a blank slate character. One you can build from the ground to be your character the other is created to accommodate the player.
The Courier(Fallout New Vegas) is a blank slate
The Lone Survivor(Fallout 4) is self-insert

 

[Deleted member 324588]

That's not exactly true. You don't need customize a char or be silent to be a “self-insert” what you are talking about is a blank slate character. One you can build from the ground to be your character the other is created to accommodate the player.
The Courier(Fallout New Vegas) is a blank slate
The Lone Survivor(Fallout 4) is self-insert

In either case the captain doesn't suit them, as he isn't a blank slate, having his own personality and history, there's no moral choice system so we can't change how he's viewed by others.

 

[Dragon1982]

Does anyone have a list of which gifts best fit which waifus currently in the game? I'm being cautious about it by using the very obvious gifts for the pirate and fashion girls, but am unsure with the other two.

 

[Milliardo]

In either case the captain doesn't suit them, as he isn't a blank slate, having his own personality and history, there's no moral choice system so we can't change how he's viewed by others.

Ok but you see the point is the difference of what they market and what they made. they market a AAA pron were you makes X. they are making a AA game with porn were the character you control makes Y.
They admitted they made mistakes marketing the games? Yes, but to bring your example back so did CDPR saying they made mistakes don't help if you don't intend to fix it.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Does anyone have a list of which gifts best fit which waifus currently in the game? I'm being cautious about it by using the very obvious gifts for the pirate and fashion girls, but am unsure with the other two.

They have an official wiki now:

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[AshuraMazda]

I made a compilation of scenes for Ela

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I will make more of the new scenes for each character. Started with Ela since she is new to the crew

Bro, you rule! If you post the other girls tag me

 

[skrillgore]

cheat engine table 0.3 for PP if someone still need it

 

[Wafe]

Now I never post on this site and I know I'm clearly not the target audience for this game, but this has got to be some of the (unintentionally?) funniest shit I've ever read so I feel like I have to comment on it.

How does a romance quest/option or whatever fit into a game where said "romantic interests" regularly fuck everything with a dick in the galaxy, whether the player wants to or not? Like what the actual fuck; is the player character gonna ask the doctor out for a romantic dinner after he walks in on her getting spitroasted by Jabba the Hutt and some dogalien?
Or how about watching a movie and then some missionary afterwards with the robot chick before she goes off to get gangbanged by a spacelizard and a tentaclemonster?

That’s just hilariously true, and something I didn’t even think of. Especially with how the writing has been to begin with, it’s about what I would expect. I guess that’d actually be pretty funny. “But it’s not NTR!” Like seriously?

I remember playing the first part when you fight those who originally had Demi and she basically implies that the other alien didn’t fuck her and that the Captain was her first.
I was thinking, oh that’s to counter the people eventually calling it NTR.
I also remember the VA in an interview talking about how deep the character and the story was, and talking about the character’s feelings and loyalty to the Captain.

Of course she’s canonically, and relentlessly fucked by any alien dick she sees. Right, about that loyalty, right?
"Just don't unlock the scene," as if they don't talk about it and make it a part of the world. Everything except for, of course integrating pandora scenes into the game in a flowing and natural manner.
While the models and story are unique, the game feels to me like something that grew in scope as ambitions and funding grew, and in some areas met a hard wall because of talent, and game dev experience.

The animations are good and the presentation is good. The game itself, however, just is functional, and that's about it. There's a sense of, "Is that it?" when I hit actual gameplay. It feels like a compromise the devs had to make because anything more complicated is currently beyond their skills.
The VA and the cutscenes are good, but then the actual writing itself, which is fine in a vacuum, would make me doubtful that any intimacy could be achieved without thinking, "she's going to cheat on you immediately, possibly in front of you." Yep, fun.

Without attributing the miscommunication to malice, I think it comes from an inexperienced dev team that had to continually change their plans as they found that certain things fell outside of the reach. Early dev logs saying things like you'll hear sounds as you walk by, coming from the lab your doctor is getting pleasured by her alien while you can't stop her, first are well NTR, secondly, imply that navigation was likely supposed to be WASD and you could walk through the ship. I feel like that's what people expected at least. Even with how the game is now, I'd expect to see those emergent sex scenes within the game. Not the case. That can be said for a lot of things.

So with Pandora, which most people gave scathing reviews for day 1, we are promised an update/overhaul to the system the update after this one. While better than not changing it, it is in general a cause for concern for me that they are changing something this late into development, instead of changing it much earlier, or having it better to begin with. Can they even make major changes at this point? Will it force them to go backwards and rework a new system and waste even more dev time, or will it just be an unsatisfying change? Nothing I've seen so far shows me that they will bring back the detractors, or excite new players.

With that, more questions come to mind. Has the game been successful enough that they can continue to fund their rather slow development pace? Have they brought enough new players per update to keep going? I read in a dev log that some people have left but also that they have hired new people, which added to their dev time. Pretty honest actually. It also makes me wonder if those people left, thinking it was a sinking ship. Who'd want to leave a booming, new business, right at its inception?

With the rate things are going, I'm not sure it'll ever really finish. Who's to say. It'll be years out, but I doubt they'll get another influx of cash the way their kickstarter and first EA did. I've heard rumors they're dipping into NFT's too. It's already been years of development, and I'm just imagining the loads of revisions and change of plans that've happened behind the scenes. At this point, this game is a case study for me. While they have shown no signs of stopping, they've shown little to prove to me that they can follow through with their promises. At least they aren't complete no shows. My guess is what some other person said, some "compromise" that is also different from what they said earlier, that technically allows them to finish the game. Some 20 chapters that are stupidly short with the game ending way faster than expected. At this point, I wish them luck.

Edit: This ended up way longer than I expected, I probably shoulda made it a review

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Just gonna address the NFT part, they aren't. They're setting up a cryptocurrency, which'll tie into their future support site, it has nothing to do with the development of the game.

 

[Milliardo]

Just gonna address the NFT part, they aren't. They're setting up a cryptocurrency, which'll tie into their future support site, it has nothing to do with the development of the game.

Well they can't say “Is for the game” if they want to keep the steam page. But here is the thing, are you sure?

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Or I just read things they said.





Streemster was a planned site as early as their last SFM film Kunoichi 3, which was out in December 2018, their kickstarter wasn't til months later. So unless you're suggesting they were banking on a cryptocurrency long before it became popular and before they launched a campaign of which they only asked for 100k, I think you might be the nuts one

 

[Milliardo]

That’s just hilariously true, and something I didn’t even think of. Especially with how the writing has been to begin with, it’s about what I would expect. I guess that’d actually be pretty funny. “But it’s not NTR!” Like seriously?

I remember playing the first part when you fight those who originally had Demi and she basically implies that the other alien didn’t fuck her and that the Captain was her first.
I was thinking, oh that’s to counter the people eventually calling it NTR.
I also remember the VA in an interview talking about how deep the character and the story was, and talking about the character’s feelings and loyalty to the Captain.

Of course she’s canonically, and relentlessly fucked by any alien dick she sees. Right, about that loyalty, right?
"Just don't unlock the scene," as if they don't talk about it and make it a part of the world. Everything except for, of course integrating pandora scenes into the game in a flowing and natural manner.
While the models and story are unique, the game feels to me like something that grew in scope as ambitions and funding grew, and in some areas met a hard wall because of talent, and game dev experience.

The animations are good and the presentation is good. The game itself, however, just is functional, and that's about it. There's a sense of, "Is that it?" when I hit actual gameplay. It feels like a compromise the devs had to make because anything more complicated is currently beyond their skills.
The VA and the cutscenes are good, but then the actual writing itself, which is fine in a vacuum, would make me doubtful that any intimacy could be achieved without thinking, "she's going to cheat on you immediately, possibly in front of you." Yep, fun.

Without attributing the miscommunication to malice, I think it comes from an inexperienced dev team that had to continually change their plans as they found that certain things fell outside of the reach. Early dev logs saying things like you'll hear sounds as you walk by, coming from the lab your doctor is getting pleasured by her alien while you can't stop her, first are well NTR, secondly, imply that navigation was likely supposed to be WASD and you could walk through the ship. I feel like that's what people expected at least. Even with how the game is now, I'd expect to see those emergent sex scenes within the game. Not the case. That can be said for a lot of things.

So with Pandora, which most people gave scathing reviews for day 1, we are promised an update/overhaul to the system the update after this one. While better than not changing it, it is in general a cause for concern for me that they are changing something this late into development, instead of changing it much earlier, or having it better to begin with. Can they even make major changes at this point? Will it force them to go backwards and rework a new system and waste even more dev time, or will it just be an unsatisfying change? Nothing I've seen so far shows me that they will bring back the detractors, or excite new players.

With that, more questions come to mind. Has the game been successful enough that they can continue to fund their rather slow development pace? Have they brought enough new players per update to keep going? I read in a dev log that some people have left but also that they have hired new people, which added to their dev time. Pretty honest actually. It also makes me wonder if those people left, thinking it was a sinking ship. Who'd want to leave a booming, new business, right at its inception?

With the rate things are going, I'm not sure it'll ever really finish. Who's to say. It'll be years out, but I doubt they'll get another influx of cash the way their kickstarter and first EA did. I've heard rumors they're dipping into NFT's too. It's already been years of development, and I'm just imagining the loads of revisions and change of plans that've happened behind the scenes. At this point, this game is a case study for me. While they have shown no signs of stopping, they've shown little to prove to me that they can follow through with their promises. At least they aren't complete no shows. My guess is what some other person said, some "compromise" that is also different from what they said earlier, that technically allows them to finish the game. Some 20 chapters that are stupidly short with the game ending way faster than expected. At this point, I wish them luck.

Edit: This ended up way longer than I expected, I probably shoulda made it a review

I agree with your point. Like i said before is a case they did not look up the market if you place this game side by side with stuff that was on steam at the time they announce is a ok game, but is 2(ish) years latter is another story but with that being said the game will be a “success” the Average Joe will buy see titis and move on and that's going to be it.

If they finish the game that is another story and there is always the option to just rush to an end and call the day.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Interestingly, minting is also a part of mining. For example, when a new block is hashed for the first time in the network, it triggers a minting of new coins. Therefore, minting here refers to new coins coming into existence, and through Proof-of-Work, this happens through mining.

Stop leaning towards the dumb side.

Never claimed to be an expert on crypto, just showing what they've stated. But the white paper only went up with early access, and wasn't mentioned at all during the campaign or the development leading up to it. They'd have to be stupid do what you suggested, as that would leave them open to being sued. And I doubt they'd want that after having to tassle with Blizzard.

 

[Milliardo]

Or I just read things they said.

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Streemster was a planned site as early as their last SFM film Kunoichi 3, which was out in December 2018, their kickstarter wasn't til months later. So unless you're suggesting they were banking on a cryptocurrency long before it became popular and before they launched a campaign of which they only asked for 100k, I think you might be the nuts one

Well if they start pushing coins that may mean the cash is short. And that may affect the game development. Not the first project they abandon.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Well if they start pushing coins that may mean the cash is short. And that may affect the game development. Not the first project they abandon.

Umm...what did they abandon?

Also I mentioned it being used for their support site, which is also meant to be used by other artists. Basically their attempt to create an adult-friendly Patreon. They went for crypto as it'll allow people in foreign countries to support them, as well as getting around credit card companies that tend to be shitty about adult content (see what happened to Pornhub as an example)

 

[Joshua Tree]

Well if they start pushing coins that may mean the cash is short. And that may affect the game development. Not the first project they abandon.

Seen Germans and other people on this site crying about not able to get adult games from Steam? Their platform would be a option for these to buy their game without the "gov parental control" slap them over the fingers... It could as well if successful be a option for creators that can't get their work monetized on patreon due to the "paypal content cop" rule over them.

 

[Milliardo]

Umm...what did they abandon?

Also I mentioned it being used for their support site, which is also meant to be used by other artists. Basically their attempt to create an adult-friendly Patreon. They went for crypto as it'll allow people in foreign countries to support them, as well as getting around credit card companies that tend to be shitty about adult content (see what happened to Pornhub as an example)

To be fair was just small animations stuff nothing that big and this is more what I heard during the time they cut the beta, but i will be honest after look more up I will take some things back, The well is just because they are new to this they made mistakes according to some stuff they release 5 other games “It's being produced by Studio FOW, and we've released 16 movies, 5 games and over 30 shorts in the few years we've been operating.”

And back to the crypto topic well here is the thing they got 1.666M for a 2(ish) years development. Steam EA gave a boost but will they have the money to finish or they will need to rush the end. And one more time they can't push crypto for the game if they want to keep the steam page.

 

[Milliardo]

Seen Germans and other people on this site crying about not able to get adult games from Steam? Their platform would be a option for these to buy their game without the "gov parental control" slap them over the fingers... It could as well if successful be a option for creators that can't get their work monetized on patreon due to the "paypal content cop" rule over them.

I get what you are saying and I do believe this is “I don't care problem”(the coin) if that was the only thing. But again that's not the only thing.