Did you download and copy the crack over too?
If you want to compare success you need to compare with what already out there in the nature of adult games on steam, that had great exposure on the steam platform. Must hurt you doesn't it? That even with your doom & gloom, Subverse doing quite good on Steam after all, still being in early access.
But you're not doing it fairly. The Illusion games don't sell well on Steam because those are the intentional versions of the game. They are always released a whole one or two years later, have entire features taken out, and aren't compatible with mods. You just took a random name and compared it to a steam release without even knowing a bit about the game. The bulk of Illusion game sales come from the Japanese audience and none of those customers are going to wait a year AFTER the JAPANESE version of their game was released to buy an inferior international version on Steam that gives them extra language options they won't use. The bulk of it's western player base pirates the Japanese version the game. Of course you're going to look like it's a failure by checking its Steam sales.
That's not the point I made and you're clearly doing this on purpose. Ai Shoujo is a sandboss game, not one focused around story and adventure. It does not even have a story to begin with. What people play Illusion games for is it's Studio (Gallery) mode, which allows them to create their own scenes, stories, and animations. You endlessly create characters and do things with them, and share with other people's.
copy the crack over too that where I find it, only download the game and decompress it when I open it, it sends me steam, it leaves me to buy for almost 25 euros
Can only compare with what is sold on the same platform. Subverse only sold on Steam so far (soon GOG). Then you compare with what other things of same nature sold on the same Platform. Steam have over 120 million active users monthly. I think that is a reasonable sample size to go by don't you think? Also try argue that western players pirate games more so it's not fair. Then that would apply to ANY game found on the steam platform then and nullify the 120 million monthly active users on steam. Now you are just making excuses why a game is doing worse than another on steam. You (or maybe it was your shadow) already said before that users on steam doesn't know any better and is no real consumers of adult content.. So why should these be that into pirating adult games to begin with then?
The fact of the matter is that you're comparing Subverse with a version of another game that nobody wants to play. The localized versions of these games all have censorship (removed content) and no modding support to them. For this reason, the western player base does not buy OR pirate that version of the game. It's like comparing Team Fortress 2's Xbox sales to Overwatch's consoles sales, when Team Fortress 2 was only ever alive and popular on it's PC version. it's a skewed comparison that lends convenience to Subverse. If we were to compare Subverse's discord and ONE of Honey Select's unofficial English speaking discords, and assume that both user counts only represent about 30% of the actual player base, you'd see how drastically Subverse still falls behind. This is only the English speaking users For AI and Honey Select btw. The AI Steam link you posted showed a cap of under 600 users played that version game at it's peak, while there are over 3 million on this Discord server alone.
Honey Select, AI, and Koikatsu are scene creators though. The "main mode" that comes with these games are usually just a menu that allows you to select a girl you created and fuck her, that's it. The bulk of it's content comes from a highly advanced (one of the best on the market) scene creators, where people endlessly create scenes. When people point to Illusion Game story modes as being trash, that's usually an indicator for anyone with even a little knowledge of these games that this person doesn't know a thing about them.
Excuses again? You have to look at it inside the same closed eco system (platform) that both games share. That would be the steam platform having a sample size of 120 million users monthly. 120 million NORMIES for most part. Does Illusion have a greater following than FOW, sure.. Illusion been in the business for over 20 years after all. And with close to 90 releases of games, expansions and addons during that time. You should think AI Shoujo that is the most promoted of their games on Steam done better than it does on that platform right?
But you're doing this with full acknowledgement (at least now) that one of the games you listed is dead on Steam but not anywhere else. You can compare them on stream but it's a shit comparison. It's clear you didn't have much knowledge on these Japanese games and that's fine. The fact that you're still trying to argue that this Steam sale comparison is valid isn't.
Once again, you don't know what you're talking about. You're confusing Illusion with KISS. KISS is the other major Japanese 3D hentai game company. They are the ones who literally have 50 different DLC and expansions for their Custom Maid game. Illusion only has about a max of 2-3 expansions per each game. AI had like... about 4 expansions, most of which were just costumes...?
It's not their most promoted. Koikatsu was their most promoted and first Steam release. It was the most hyped up by everyone because, like in Subverse's case, it was the first "major" porn game getting an official steam release. It ultimately set the tone to Illusion's English player base to never touch the Fakku or Steam versions of any of their games from that point on. Koikatsu had a story mode that allowed you to roam through the school and date girls. The Steam version completely removes that from the game entirely. People stay away from their steam releases because they are garbage.
If the Illusion wiki is wrong in regard of their released items over the past 20 odd years, maybe you should go and correct it?
For which games? You do know they don't release each outfit individually, right? AI Shoujo, Honey Select, and Koikatsu didn't have that many Expansions and Add-ons. You can go screenshot me what you mean and maybe I can explain what you're looking at?
Being their most promoted Steam released doesn't mean much to begin with. The full translation for the Japanese version of Koikatsu was already made a year before Koikatsu: Party (Steam version) was released. Downloading Koikatsu party just meant you had tons of bugs brought on by the localization team and next to no mod support for the next 4-6 months, and barely that. Koikatsu: Party and Honey Selected: Unlimited are both the localized versions of their original games, which don't have "Party" and "Unlimited" in their names. Both of those games were originally released on Fakku's store and licensed through Fakku first. By the time they were even announced to be getting these localized versions, anyone who wanted to play these games were already doing so with the English translated Japanese version. There was zero reason to try it, especially after it came out that half of their content was deleted to be approved for Steam's platform.
These illusion games didn't have a huge internet campaign with Kotaku and Polygon creating articles about them to help bring their existence to normie light anyway.
I'm not disregarding the Steam playerbase. I'm saying you can't compare it's most weakest sales and player base platform to Subverse's only sales platform. Subverse only has one version of itself and is only, to my knowledge, being sold on Steam. AI Shoujo and Koikatsu are being sold on a ton of Japense sites and the one version nobody wants to play is on Steam. You're right, the majority of Steam purchases clearly had no idea what FOW was before it gained massive hype from youtubers, game informer websites, and even mainstream news websites. Illusion games don't usually garner that kind of free advertisement without it being a controversy. You're intentionally being very obtuse about this, aren't you?
Of course you can compare it, because they share the same customer base inside the Steam eco system. The average normie steam user looking at adult games on the site decides "oh this look" exciting. That person would have no idea if the game had other versions that people that was in the "know" would prefer or not. Because then they would seek out the best version.
The average normie porn viewer or Steam normie doesn't pay for porn either. Subverse's sales was aided greatly by it's massive amounts of free advertisement. Whether Fow liked it or not, it was being heralded as the first triple A porn game to the gaming community at large. FOW was purchased by both normies, intermediates, and porn veterans. The Steam version of Illusion games were only purchased by the low percentage of normies that pay for porn games.
This kind of answer leads me to believe you really did check the "News" portion of the AI Syoujyo section and incorrectly assumed all these dates listed had to be DLC/Expanssions. You're head is so far up your ass that you'll lazily look up a wiki in hopes to find something that'll support your claim and then not even do the due diligence to read the page itself. You won't prove me wrong because you can't. You didn't know a single thing about these Illusion games when you brought them up and tried to argue about their history and features/expansions. The worst part of all this is that I knew it's what you were doing, and yet I was still willing to just explain to you what these things were and let it go. You instead refuse to accept being wrong about anything you say.
Here is a slight hint....
You need everything. And you download the crack and copy it into the game folder once you extracted the game.
Since it's "off topic" apparently to directly compare the 2 million dollar train wreck of a monster sex Hgame to the 1.6 million dollar monster sex hgame on their technical merits I'll speak abstractly. This is the second time the direct mention of a certain other much better, much more popular, much higher rated game listed on this site in the same genre with the same content and the same playerbase has been arbitrarily jannied so people will... play this instead?
Unless you sitting on a complete copy of the game, it's to early to talk about unfulfillable promises. Unless you have something particular in mind?
Yes, you checked their main wiki page for game releases. This includes localization and re-releases, further inflating that number. You just saw a lot of words in those lists and counted them all. Illusion games don't often have DLC and when they do, it's only a max of 3-4. Everything before Rapelay was akin to Type Moon before they developed the Fate game. Raplelay wasn't even that big but it garnered controversy in the west and resulted in Illusion IP blocking westerns from it's sites and games.
