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NICE. So if the captain or the girls control the mantic/xenos with that collar, means that those things are nothing more than oversized dildos lol
Then I can look past them.

But does the game have others screwing the girls tho ?
Since the xenos/mantics are mindless dildos controlled by the captain or the girls, I dont see that as NTR. So Im fine with it.
But are there other people or creatures that fuck the girls ?
unclear. We see there’s these non-descriptive green looking dudes during some of the crew scenes and cinematics. Dunno if they’re considered Mantics or not, they could just be filler for the multi-person scenes.
 

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If it's bad it's bad, they got quite a bit of investment and a lot of support for it, so people can criticize it however they want.
Of course, everyone's allowed their opinion. I just think the hate it gets is way more than it should be.
If this game was being made by a standard patreon adult game account it'd be rated one of the highest rated games on here. But because it's a well known company with a large backing people seem to be jumping down their throats unnecessarily. Honestly the quality of game subverse is leaps and bounds above even some of the best games uploaded on this website.
 

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unclear. We see there’s these non-descriptive green looking dudes during some of the crew scenes and cinematics. Dunno if they’re considered Mantics or not, they could just be filler for the multi-person scenes.
They are called drudge and are described as the lowest form of mantic on the ship and little more than glorified janitors.
 

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Of course, everyone's allowed their opinion. I just think the hate it gets is way more than it should be.
If this game was being made by a standard patreon adult game account it'd be rated one of the highest rated games on here. But because it's a well known company with a large backing people seem to be jumping down their throats unnecessarily. Honestly the quality of game subverse is leaps and bounds above even some of the best games uploaded on this website.
Not really, as a game maybe, but as a porn game hell no.
 
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Well guess what if ppl can't rub one out to a porn game then its a shit porn game, and thats the sentiment I have with subverse.
And then we gone the full circle again. It's a game with porn, not a porn game. It's kinda funny though, people that bought the game on steam seems to accept the game for what it is and not what they want it to be, meanwhile those that pirate it for free have far more complaints about it's not what they want it to be.
 

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And then we gone the full circle again. It's a game with porn, not a porn game. It's kinda funny though, people that bought the game on steam seems to accept the game for what it is and not what they want it to be, meanwhile those that pirate it for free have far more complaints about it's not what they want it to be.
You never hear people who refund it like me, and a lot of people pirate it before buying it. Kinda funny isn't it.
 
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You never hear people who refund it like me, and a lot of people pirate it before buying it. Kinda funny isn't it.
"a lot of people who pirate before bying", is a truth with modifications. Piracy these days is not what it used to be in the glory days of the likes of piratebay. But still if you look at sites such as svscomics and the download count on typical patreon games you also find on this site. That there is people who will support and back something after trying, sure, but majority will just keep download for free, that is the nature of piracy.

When I was younger and economy wasn't all that, I pirated more because I had less spare funds to use on what I wanted. As I grew older and ended up with more spending money, I stopped pirate just about anything I could get my hands on as well. As for these adult games, sure, I download and pirate just as anyone else for most parts but I try to support games I find worth the while too. Some games I never supported, but ended up buy when they did appear on steam.

But to get back on track. You don't really see the shit show about the game on the steam forums as you done in this thread. And in general it seems like the feedback from people in this thread who bought the game seems far more positive than those who didn't.
 

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"a lot of people who pirate before bying", is a truth with modifications. Piracy these days is not what it used to be in the glory days of the likes of piratebay. But still if you look at sites such as svscomics and the download count on typical patreon games you also find on this site. That there is people who will support and back something after trying, sure, but majority will just keep download for free, that is the nature of piracy.

When I was younger and economy wasn't all that, I pirated more because I had less spare funds to use on what I wanted. As I grew older and ended up with more spending money, I stopped pirate just about anything I could get my hands on as well. As for these adult games, sure, I download and pirate just as anyone else for most parts but I try to support games I find worth the while too. Some games I never supported, but ended up buy when they did appear on steam.

But to get back on track. You don't really see the shit show about the game on the steam forums as you done in this thread. And in general it seems like the feedback from people in this thread who bought the game seems far more positive than those who didn't.
Meh, I guess we agree to disagree. Have a nice day mate.
 
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Of course, everyone's allowed their opinion. I just think the hate it gets is way more than it should be.
If this game was being made by a standard patreon adult game account it'd be rated one of the highest rated games on here. But because it's a well known company with a large backing people seem to be jumping down their throats unnecessarily. Honestly the quality of game subverse is leaps and bounds above even some of the best games uploaded on this website.
I have the same point of view.

Thing is that if the 0.1 version of Subverse was released as a demo for advertising a new Patreon from an unknown studio, everybody here would have gone crazy and the game maker would probably reach a 100 K / month income over time.

There would still have a lot of critics of the Pandora System, but far less negative review.
 
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Thing is that if the 0.1 version of Subverse was released as a demo for advertising a new Patreon from an unknown studio
But it didn't. Instead 0.1 version of Subverse was released almost TWO YEARS since it's Kickstarter ended raising over 2 million dollars. Now, even after two and a half year the game is fundamentally broken in one aspect (and it's selling point), with one of the worst implementations of sex scenes in a video games ever.

Shills in this thread are calling it "a video game with porn". First - no one gave a fuck about space and ground combat when it was on Kickstarter. People saw Studio FOW and donated money to get a porn parody of Mass Effect world. Second, after all that developement time it's a piss poor videogame that treats it's porn like it's ashamed of it. Porn in Subverse is a ginger bastard child hidden in a closet called "captain's quarters".

Current developement speed indicates the game maybe getting finished in 3-5 years, we'll see if it can reach all-round mediocrity by then.
 

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Dropping my 0.3 save here. (Put it in ...\AppData\Local\Subverse\Saved\SaveGames)
- Main quests completed
- Spaceship (F3NIX) upgraded
- All Mantics unlocked
- All Pandora scenes unlocked

Haven't done many sidequests, Haven't done any gifting things, and gallery things.
 

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But it didn't. Instead 0.1 version of Subverse was released almost TWO YEARS since it's Kickstarter ended raising over 2 million dollars. Now, even after two and a half year the game is fundamentally broken in one aspect (and it's selling point), with one of the worst implementations of sex scenes in a video games ever.

Shills in this thread are calling it "a video game with porn". First - no one gave a fuck about space and ground combat when it was on Kickstarter. People saw Studio FOW and donated money to get a porn parody of Mass Effect world. Second, after all that developement time it's a piss poor videogame that treats it's porn like it's ashamed of it. Porn in Subverse is a ginger bastard child hidden in a closet called "captain's quarters".

Current developement speed indicates the game maybe getting finished in 3-5 years, we'll see if it can reach all-round mediocrity by then.
Adeptus Steve with Wild Life, raised over 2.5 million USD over 2 years on Patreon... Where is the shit storm there? Give creators such as him a pass because.. oh just another patreon dev? The "they raised 2 mill" narrative, is just beating a old drum by now. In regard of production value and monetizing when looking at some of the top earners on patreon when it come to adult games. Subverse come out far better in regard of how much funds been put into the project by far.

Re-visit their kickstarter page... the things you don't care about.. displayed there.... The early beta some had access too was also about the things you don't care about, but hey. If people bought into the kickstarter to get a porn parody of mass effect.. frankly they would be some marbles and screws short...
 

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I have the same point of view.

Thing is that if the 0.1 version of Subverse was released as a demo for advertising a new Patreon from an unknown studio, everybody here would have gone crazy and the game maker would probably reach a 100 K / month income over time.

There would still have a lot of critics of the Pandora System, but far less negative review.
Exactly. Sure the lack of a free camera is a shame, but you compare the animations to that of something like The Twist and like... how can you even complain? That game has such wooden animations and a really uninteresting plot but people praise it.

The attention to detail in ALL of the Pandora scenes is honestly astonishing. Nothing looks out of place, nothing looks wooden, the sound design and the lighting is all so wonderfully crafted. I just can't see what people hate about it. Back that up with interesting gameplay and a really tongue-in-cheek, entertaining and raunchy story and you've got one of the best quality adult games out there.

It's fascinating because this sort of game should be being praised by this community but everyone's tearing it apart... Like this game is literally designed for this sort of community. I suppose it's like a state of the art sports car getting flack from car enthusiasts for not being fast enough...

Well guess what if ppl can't rub one out to a porn game then its a shit porn game, and thats the sentiment I have with subverse.
I'm amazed that you can't. Honestly, the animations in this game have done something to me and I literally can't stop watching them. But again, that's your opinion.
 

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Exactly. Sure the lack of a free camera is a shame, but you compare the animations to that of something like The Twist and like... how can you even complain? That game has such wooden animations and a really uninteresting plot but people praise it.

The attention to detail in ALL of the Pandora scenes is honestly astonishing. Nothing looks out of place, nothing looks wooden, the sound design and the lighting is all so wonderfully crafted. I just can't see what people hate about it. Back that up with interesting gameplay and a really tongue-in-cheek, entertaining and raunchy story and you've got one of the best quality adult games out there.

It's fascinating because this sort of game should be being praised by this community but everyone's tearing it apart... Like this game is literally designed for this sort of community. I suppose it's like a state of the art sports car getting flack from car enthusiasts for not being fast enough...
Pandora scene by itself is not a problem. The main problem is mostly that for now the only porn content in the game is those Pandora scenes.

I saw a lot of people disliking (me included) the fact that "porn" in subverse is like a little add-on to the game while they expected it to be included into the main story.

Basically, I think people expected something like that :
- Remove every content from Pandora
- Add more story related cutscene
- Make those cutscenes focused on sex content.

It looks also a bit odd to have Pandora scenes with no talking / context while the whole game is heavily dialog focused. There is a mismatch between the porn and the game.

We had a small preview of "story related porn" with Elaisha on the last patch and we know that loyalty quest will possibly include this kind of content.

So wait and see.
 
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Exactly. Sure the lack of a free camera is a shame, but you compare the animations to that of something like The Twist and like... how can you even complain? That game has such wooden animations and a really uninteresting plot but people praise it.

The attention to detail in ALL of the Pandora scenes is honestly astonishing. Nothing looks out of place, nothing looks wooden, the sound design and the lighting is all so wonderfully crafted. I just can't see what people hate about it. Back that up with interesting gameplay and a really tongue-in-cheek, entertaining and raunchy story and you've got one of the best quality adult games out there.

It's fascinating because this sort of game should be being praised by this community but everyone's tearing it apart... Like this game is literally designed for this sort of community. I suppose it's like a state of the art sports car getting flack from car enthusiasts for not being fast enough...
Maybe because animations without any dialogue or set up means jack shit to the vast majority of people who play porn games? You can watch better 3D animations with some coherent progression on the internet, or you can mix 3 random gifs in PANDORA and create your own janky ass "scene." Why would anybody go through this shit tier excuse of a gameplay to get something that is worse than random 3D animations on pornhub?

Mind you, I was actually more interested in the gameplay after seeing the kickstarter because I knew the plot was gonna be some try hard cringe humor. I thought with all that money, they would at least make a good game with some porn in it like some fanboy keeps repeating. Alas, the gameplay is shit. It's laughably shallow with no room for improvement unless they overhaul the mechanics and not just add more of the same. The porn is shit. This will also never improve unless they literally remove PANDORA and incorporate the porn into the gameplay and story. So well, the game is shit. I very much doubt they will make sweeping changes. I don't think they will acknowledge that there is a fundamental issue with the entire game design, nor do I think they have the necessary skills to fix these issues even if they tried to.

Btw, there is a fundamental difference in business model for patreon and kickstarter. Patreon is not trying to sell a product for x amount of dollars. It's designed as an ongoing system of financial support for someone so they can do whatever it is they are doing. The number of people who think they are buying a product on patreon is mind boggling. Yea, there are milkers and scammers, but the fault lies on the patron for not doing their due diligence and being a retard that keeps supporting shit devs. You won't get your money back for all the payments made in the past, but you can cut off your support if you suspect they are just jerking off with your money.

Kickstarter works as an investment in a product. The dev sets a goal which would cover the expenses to make something. If the goal is reached, they are expected to deliver. If they fail to devlier a satisfactory product on the estimated time of delivery, the fault lies with the devs. They bungled your investment, whereas in patreon's case, YOU bungled your investment. The $ goal and estimated delivery date is all mandatory in doing a kickstarter. Patreon doesn't have such obligations. So yea, screwing up a kickstarter that reached over 30 times the $ goal is a bit more incompetent than your average milker on patreon doing milky things.
 
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