Prior-Instance

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I feel like this game has so much potential but consistently falls short due to poor decision making. Like everyone has been saying pandora is a bad system. Keeping 90% of the sexual content in a contextless, dialogue free scene viewer was a terrible idea. I’ve read on here that they plan on reworking it but I feel like there’s an easier solution and that’s to have the amount of scenes reduced but either have all the sex scenes in the main quest or side quests and have dialogue for the scene and perhaps multiple stages, kind of like how most porn games do it now. There’s no reason to reinvent the wheel when everybody seems happy with it.

This would lead to a problem with the mantics however and I have two solutions for this problem, solution 1 is to keep them as side quests and have a symbol or a disclaimer that the side quest will result in a mantic sex scene, this way the people who don’t like it have an easy way to identify what scenes to skip. The other solution which I think someone in this thread actually wrote about but I forgot who and where it is was that the MC actually turns into the mantics through some concoction that lily creates. However this only eliminates the problem for the people who dislike sharing the women with the monsters and not the people who just dislike monster stuff all together. So maybe combine the two.

Granted this is all armchair game development so take it with a grain of salt but I do really want this game to succeed and I feel that the developers are too married to the idea of pandora since they spent a lot of time on it. I do wish the devs the best of luck though and who knows maybe their rework of pandora is actually great and a huge success.
 
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Eddy86

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right click on the file and go to save link as... and at the time of saving leave the name that is just adding the (.torrent) at the end follow the photos
 

Eddy86

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good for the firefox browser, I forgot to comment hehehehe I don't know if others have this problem
 

JustLittleTinyMe

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by definition, no. Unless you are somehow self-inserting as a raunchy Australian dude who wears panties on his face, this shouldn’t provoke that kind of feeling. No girls are stolen, raped, or otherwise does things that they are not choosing to do or the Captain doesn’t know about. Everyone’s horny, everyone bangs.
The game is and has been tagged with NTR since it was posted here, it's not an accident that it's tagged with NTR.
Now admittedly I haven't played the game myself cause I was honestly quite disappointed with how the game turned out.
However, if you have crewmates and you on the regular bang all these crewmates, then I'd say it's very normal to consider the crewmates as love-interest for the MC. So when it comes to a scene where one of these crewmates gets fucked by someone or something else, and the MC can do nothing else than watch it unfold, then it's basically NTR and that's even what those scenes were added in the game for, since it was put up as a kickstarter goal to have NTR in the game.
So whether you yourself consider it NTR or not is pretty much besides the point when the devs themselves made it a goal, that was reached, to have NTR in the game.
 

Deleted member 324588

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The game is and has been tagged with NTR since it was posted here, it's not an accident that it's tagged with NTR.
Now admittedly I haven't played the game myself cause I was honestly quite disappointed with how the game turned out.
However, if you have crewmates and you on the regular bang all these crewmates, then I'd say it's very normal to consider the crewmates as love-interest for the MC. So when it comes to a scene where one of these crewmates gets fucked by someone or something else, and the MC can do nothing else than watch it unfold, then it's basically NTR and that's even what those scenes were added in the game for, since it was put up as a kickstarter goal to have NTR in the game.
So whether you yourself consider it NTR or not is pretty much besides the point when the devs themselves made it a goal, that was reached, to have NTR in the game.
NTR was not a goal, so dunno where you're seeing that. Also that logic reeks of 'rules for thee, but not for me' thinking. The Captain can have a relationship with 10 different ladies, but they in turn have no such freedom? You're not much better than the Imperium at that point, dictating people's sexual freedoms, which is kinda what the whole game is about.

Also, straight out of the dev's reddit AMA a while back: there it is.PNG
 
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JustLittleTinyMe

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NTR was not a goal, so dunno where you're seeing that. Also that logic reeks of 'rules for thee, but not for me' thinking. The Captain can have a relationship with 10 different ladies, but they in turn have no such freedom? You're not much better than the Imperium at that point, dictating people's sexual freedoms, which is kinda what the whole game is about.

Also, straight out of the dev's reddit AMA a while back:
'Rules for thee, bot not for me' ? It's a porn game, the crewmates are fictional characters that don't have human feelings or even rights, wtf does rules for thee but not for me have to do with that ? If this whole thing was a real life situation then yes I'd agree with you, but it's not, it's a game, the crewmates in the game wouldn't care regardless cause they're fictional characters.
And I'll admit I remembered the kickstarter goal incorrectly, but I'm sure you've already seen this screenshot before.
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Deleted member 324588

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'Rules for thee, bot not for me' ? It's a porn game, the crewmates are fictional characters that don't have human feelings or even rights, wtf does rules for thee but not for me have to do with that ? If this whole thing was a real life situation then yes I'd agree with you, but it's not, it's a game, the crewmates in the game wouldn't care regardless cause they're fictional characters.
And I'll admit I remembered the kickstarter goal incorrectly, but I'm sure you've already seen this screenshot before.
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Oh good this image again. I disproved its existence a long time back, but seeing as we gotta do it again...

here's that actual image from the Kickstarter site, and you can look at it for yourself:

The milestone image is fake, the mantic page is fake:

The pregnancy system didn't make it in the game anyway, so that point is moot. And that bit about loyalty and independence is cherry picking an answer and making an entire theory out of it with 0 confirmation.

milestone.JPG

Seriously the fact that image came from a now deleted 4chan thread, really tells you all you need to know about its validity.
 

Enigmanic

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Everytime there is an update, the same kind of maggots keep crawl out of the woodwork and repeat the same crap over and over. Why not just stay away if you don't like the game?

If you have valid feedback and critic, go to the steam forums and post in the actual thread for it. People that get posts/threads deleted doesn't do so because they don't listen to critic or feedback, they do so because they can't bloody act their age, break steam forum guidelines and what not.
That's bullshit. I've encountered plenty of games on Steam, including this one, where the devs deleted negative reviews to help hype their game. I've read reviews that offered constructive criticism without any vitriol that got removed for no good reason.

I also happen to be a former supporter of Studio FoW when they were on Patreon. I supported them for 4 years. There were plenty of times when DarkCrow deleted comments or flat out attacked and insulted supporters for offering constructive criticism. There were entire flame wars between supporters who just wanted to express their opinions and feedback versus trolls and Studio FoW's diehard asskissers who would insult and gang up on other supporters just because they weren't mutually obsessed with bestiality. I was also around for the Scarlet Nights debacle when DarkCrow intentionally put out a misleading trailer lying about the content of SN ep1 and then boldly insulted and trashtalked his own supporters for calling him out on it.
 

stekegkin

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That's bullshit. I've encountered plenty of games on Steam, including this one, where the devs deleted negative reviews to help hype their game. I've read reviews that offered constructive criticism without any vitriol that got removed for no good reason.

I also happen to be a former supporter of Studio FoW when they were on Patreon. I supported them for 4 years. There were plenty of times when DarkCrow deleted comments or flat out attacked and insulted supporters for offering constructive criticism. There were entire flame wars between supporters who just wanted to express their opinions and feedback versus trolls and Studio FoW's diehard asskissers who would insult and gang up on other supporters just because they weren't mutually obsessed with bestiality. I was also around for the Scarlet Nights debacle when DarkCrow intentionally put out a misleading trailer lying about the content of SN ep1 and then boldly insulted and trashtalked his own supporters for calling him out on it.
Just a heads up, but developers cannot simply "delete bad reviews" to "help hype" their game on Steam. The only thing developers can do is submit a report for Steam to take a look at said review(s) and decide if they were made maliciously or were, in fact, actual reviews (aka not review bombs, or people leaving blatantly dumb reviews meant to drag the score down). They're subject to the exact same system other users are: they can report them, they cannot delete or edit user reviews.

If reviews were removed, it was because Steam deemed them as bad faith reviews. That's not on the developers.

In regards to the rest, go off king.

Edit: Went ahead and grabbed this directly from steams partner FAQ in regards to this particular issue incase you were curious:

Q. I'm a developer. Can I delete reviews of my product?
A. Not directly. If you find abusive reviews, you can flag them. The review will continue to be listed on your store page until a moderator deletes the review or removes the flag.
 
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Enigmanic

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Just a heads up, but developers cannot simply "delete bad reviews" to "help hype" their game on Steam. The only thing developers can do is submit a report for Steam to take a look at said review(s) and decide if they were made maliciously or were, in fact, actual reviews (aka not review bombs, or people leaving blatantly dumb reviews meant to drag the score down). They're subject to the exact same system other users are: they can report them, they cannot delete or edit user reviews.

If reviews were removed, it was because Steam deemed them as bad faith reviews. That's not on the developers.

In regards to the rest, go off king.

Edit: Went ahead and grabbed this directly from steams partner FAQ in regards to this particular issue incase you were curious:

Q. I'm a developer. Can I delete reviews of my product?
A. Not directly. If you find abusive reviews, you can flag them. The review will continue to be listed on your store page until a moderator deletes the review or removes the flag.
Fair enough. But then again, I suppose no moderator ever showed unfair bias for a dev..
 

agemi

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I think the game structure is fixed when the first version come out, which means a lot of things cant changed be just do some "updates", for example the "no free cam on sex scene", the develop team just have no plan to do that system at beginning.

My opinion on this game:
1. I'm willing to buy this game for $20 or $30 when they finally finished, which is the similar price to those Japan ADV games, but it is English so at least I can understand what the character talk about, plus some high resolution porn gif(which Japan games don't have)

2. I don't know how to comment on those "million spending but shit game" saying, cause we don't have a "standard" on porn game. Like if people want compare open world game they can use GTAV as a standard, because GTAV is a very good game and we know how much they spending on it. For porn game we just don't have a good one I guess? And we also don't know how much other company's spending.

3. I was hoping Studio Fow can make a good game when they announced, cause this field is pretty much empty, only few Japan companies keeps doing that, if Studio Fow succeeded, maybe more people would join this area and produce more game. Apparently Studio Fow failed, so I can only put my hope on other teams and wish they can produce a nice one.
 

Joshua Tree

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That's bullshit. I've encountered plenty of games on Steam, including this one, where the devs deleted negative reviews to help hype their game. I've read reviews that offered constructive criticism without any vitriol that got removed for no good reason.

I also happen to be a former supporter of Studio FoW when they were on Patreon. I supported them for 4 years. There were plenty of times when DarkCrow deleted comments or flat out attacked and insulted supporters for offering constructive criticism. There were entire flame wars between supporters who just wanted to express their opinions and feedback versus trolls and Studio FoW's diehard asskissers who would insult and gang up on other supporters just because they weren't mutually obsessed with bestiality. I was also around for the Scarlet Nights debacle when DarkCrow intentionally put out a misleading trailer lying about the content of SN ep1 and then boldly insulted and trashtalked his own supporters for calling him out on it.
Devs can't delete reviews. That is why steam need to interfer when someone start review bomb games and such. Such as the case when the Chinese went apeshit on Subverse some time back. And if threads and posts get deleted due to Flamewars.. well that is natural. Such is against the steam guidelines to start with.
 

Joshua Tree

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Fair enough. But then again, I suppose no moderator ever showed unfair bias for a dev..
It's not like games on steam got their own unique steam moderators only, and that is that. Therre is a lot of steam moderators that operate across the platform and moderate threads based on the steam guidelines. More than often show up when someone report a post, complain about a poster and such. You saying all of these are biased?
 
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