Unreal Engine Subverse [v0.9] [Studio Fow]

[Lurker]

I know what you're pointing at, I asked you, since you've decided to be his devil's advocate, to point out what's his problem now and with whom. If you can't be arsed to do that then don't bother next time.

Are YOU trying to understand him or not?
Just because you don't get something doesn't mean it's stupid. It means you are.
It's not about a single person but about a bunch of them and the situation that arises every single time. Hence why I won't bother going through all the pages and serve you examples on a silver-plate because I doubt, with the ignorance you've shown so far, that you change your point of view. Thus I leave it totally up to you if you want to stay where you are not.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I know what you're pointing at, I asked you, since you've decided to be his devil's advocate, to point out what's his problem now and with whom. If you can't be arsed to do that then don't bother next time.

You want to borrow a shovel? Must hurt dig that hole with your bare hands...

Spoiler: Devil hu?

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[BigJohnny]

Are YOU trying to understand him or not?

I have, I already told you he doesn't care about constructive (or not) criticism, he only wants to see the approved opinions.
And yes, I completely believe you that it's about a bunch of people who dare to have the wrong opinions about the game or the devs- that's why you can see him screaming into the void instead of addressing specific people and whatever they had to say.
Have a nice day

 

[vexx_]

Unpopular opinion but I do enjoy playing this new update.

 

[Dragon1982]

Wow guys, after I said I liked this game enough to buy it off steam, I'm seeing a lot of back and forth about peoples' honest opinions and how others take it. Sure we are allowed our own opinion about games like these since it is our freedom to speak our minds, but there's no reason for others to get hostile based on differences of opinion. We already have enough hostilities in this world currently, which I hope ends soon.

 

[rexharbinger]

We already have enough hostilities in this world currently, which I hope ends soon.

The hostilities... or the world?

Just got the new Taron scene. They make it closer to an Illusion game, but much higher poly and better textures and lights (now to talk about the 'focus' going out when you zoom). You don't have 'full' camera control, but it goes a long way to address the complaints that this is just a clip viewer behind a flash game front. Need to make all the 'prime' scenes into this format, preferably. Also, I'm not sure if I found all the interactions, but there should be some sort of feedback, even if it is just a slight modulation to her moans when you find a spot. I was disappointed at first, but I found that her position changed when you grabbed her tail, and that kind of interaction opens up a lot of possibilities.

I do like a lot of the fetishes they have added into the game, as a number of them are right up my alley (large cock bestiality, futanari, cumflation, consentacles, etc). The ones that are misses for me (like feet) are still there for other people, and I just don't spend any points on them. As mentioned before, there really isn't any NTR of the player in this game, anymore then finding out your prostitute isn't a virgin. The Captain isn't in a relationship with any of them. However, technically speaking, the NTR in the game is you cucking Tibold by stealing Demi from him (which you don't see, but they state several times, and refer to it as cucking).

However, if I could get word back to the developers... the 'tease' scenes are some of the worst. Not to the point where I'd say remove them from the game, but they are barely even filler. I'd say leave them in, but they should be free upon unlocking the character. I've gotten almost every scene unlocked for one of the girls, and all that is left is the tease scenes... all of the tease scenes (I've unlocked most of them before in a previous version and didn't see any reason to do so this time). I have some points left over, but rather then spend even left over points on the tease scenes, I'll hold them in case I can load up this save file the next patch that comes out. If you have them open when the girl is first unlocked, it would be like saying, "Here is the new girl, you can see her all you want, but you need to get that devotion up if you want to do anything with her." In other words, use the tease scenes as teasers. Because they aren't worth spending devotion points on.

Back to game play. Some of the space fight deaths just seem like random unfairness, which means there might be some more tweaking needed there. I can play through, barely get any shield damage, doing great, then suddenly I'm surrounded and get just obliterated in about a second. Play through again, and get gold on the same map. I did play the stealth mission, and other than needing a better way to lose aggro, I didn't really have a problem with it. I'd suggest some dialog at the first pillar about how it will make the drones vulnerable, and maybe something pointing out the use of the 'sprint' feature on your ship will come in handy even though it disables the stealth field. It isn't something I'd like to be a regular feature, since it takes a long time, but I don't think it needs to be reworked much.

Also, during the ground based mission, on more than one occasion I've had enemies spawn in, and all decide to strike the same character the moment they did, taking a tank from full health to dead. This also feels very cheap. I'd just suggest having something where either all the enemy doesn't get to strike as soon as they show up, or they spread out their attacks. This could be based on whether or not they all attack the same person. For example, if they spawn in three melee, and only one character is within melee range, have only one of them be able to attack instantly, and the others have their attack phase pushed back. Or adjust where the enemy is spawning in, since it doesn't seem to be a set pattern, even occasionally spawning in behind my ranged characters on 'my side' of the map.

One more thing to keep in mind moving forward. "Ripped from the headlines" parody jokes about people in the video game industry are perhaps slightly funny during a short period after that event. Perhaps they could be used in a game with a very short development cycle. A lot of the references that were made are from so long ago that I barely got them, and some I missed entirely. At this point, you have a fairly decent idea how long this game is going to take to make (at least you know to measure it in years and not months). I'd suggest rewriting the parody quests into something a little more recognizable. Use tropes if you have to, make them funny within themselves and not needing minor stories that happened more than five years ago. Always punch upwards. Or, like the one with Gordon Ramsey, have it focusing on better people. Have a Bob Ross alien tasking you to rescue a tree on a planet because everyone needs a friend. Have a Steve Irwin character saving a planet of animals. Or not, not sure how their family would feel about them being in a porn game, I don't know. But basically just insulting everyone doesn't really feel funny if you keep doing it.

(note: Some of the Cumflation scenes are categorized as 'tease' for some reason, and I don't hold those scenes as bad at all. Just the ones where the girl isn't doing very much but posing or rubbing. Basically, non-fetish solo scenes.)

 

[Dveloaver]

the save isnt working for me just goes bad the main menu

 

[suprizesd]

The scence with Taron Bj in the ship when we are doing the main quest is not included in PANDORA? Is that missing or how can you rewatch it?

 

[Grydos]

The scence with Taron Bj in the ship when we are doing the main quest is not included in PANDORA? Is that missing or how can you rewatch it?

Go to archives, act two and choose smothered comfort

 

[Kernist]

Again, fair points. But the system isn't perfect and some people do have bias. If someone is a fan of a certain dev or genre it's possible their judgement can be colored to a degree. Also, what checks are in place to deal with the opposite of a review bomb? How about when a game gets several rave reviews despite the game being a broken buggy mess? It's not a perfect system. As I've stated before, when it comes to Studio FoW specifically I know how scummy and toxic they can be. And I have seen negative reviews on games that ended up being removed unfairly.

Aside from Steam, devs have been known to shun criticism. Many adult game makers have Discord servers. I have been in several where the dev became abusive and confrontational about constructive criticism. It's one reason I enjoy using this site to discuss the games without fear of being ganged up on or having my comments deleted just for providing honest albeit negative feedback.

Good points, also remember how positive reviews for porn games on Steam look. 80% of them are "are you winning son?" meme, gigachad image or some sort of "my family/friends saw me playing this game and I have no regrets". That's why "game is mostly negative because of chinese bots" excuse is pathetic considering how many fake positive reviews there are.

 

[SoulOneX]

Full Save

which version is this for? i cannot load it with 0.4.0

 

[Eddy86]

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[D-R]

New screenshots by me

Spoiler: SCREENSHOTS

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[jimmyjoo]

So where does the current build end? I got a quest on the bridge to meet Killi but there doesn't seem to be a way to move forward on that.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

So where does the current build end? I got a quest on the bridge to meet Killi but there doesn't seem to be a way to move forward on that.

you’ve only just started then. Go access the galaxy map.

 

[JustLittleTinyMe]

Oh good this image again. I disproved its existence a long time back, but seeing as we gotta do it again...

here's that actual image from the Kickstarter site, and you can look at it for yourself:

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The milestone image is fake, the mantic page is fake:

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The pregnancy system didn't make it in the game anyway, so that point is moot. And that bit about loyalty and independence is cherry picking an answer and making an entire theory out of it with 0 confirmation.


Seriously the fact that image came from a now deleted 4chan thread, really tells you all you need to know about its validity.

I didn't know about the mantic thing being faked was a thing, I'll agree that part of it is fake. The other part with the kickstarter is only that they added Netorare above the "unlocked" which I honestly hadn't even noticed was there before now, it was the description that I was focused on.
The pregnancy thing is hardly the point in it, the example/scenario still happens. Besides those two things you haven't "disproven" any of the other more valid and actual points.
And what do you even mean with "cherry-picking an answer" if that compliment is cherry-picking, then is your 1 post with an answer that says 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' not cherry-picking?
Your reasoning earlier that there wasn't NTR was that 'everyone horny, everyone bang' yet the game clearly has dating-sim system with 'romanceable' characters in it, which is even deepened further with the Loyalty stages, which normally would suggest deeper relationships than "Me caveman/woman, me fuck anything".

Honestly this isn't even a hill I'm willing to die on cause it's rather pointless and stupid, my point is that there are plenty of situations and scenarios in the game that happens that, especially on this site, a chunk of people would consider NTR. So telling people that there is no such thing and bait them into downloading this massive GB devouring game, then reach these scenes and feel betrayed is probably more misleading than some reddit rat photoshopping a couple images, imo.

 

[JustLittleTinyMe]

Everytime there is an update, the same kind of maggots keep crawl out of the woodwork and repeat the same crap over and over. Why not just stay away if you don't like the game?

If you have valid feedback and critic, go to the steam forums and post in the actual thread for it. People that get posts/threads deleted doesn't do so because they don't listen to critic or feedback, they do so because they can't bloody act their age, break steam forum guidelines and what not.

Ah okay, so valid feedback should go to Steam ? Then it appears I've posted the correct place by posting here and not Steam then.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I didn't know about the mantic thing being faked was a thing, I'll agree that part of it is fake. The other part with the kickstarter is only that they added Netorare above the "unlocked" which I honestly hadn't even noticed was there before now, it was the description that I was focused on.
The pregnancy thing is hardly the point in it, the example/scenario still happens. Besides those two things you haven't "disproven" any of the other more valid and actual points.
And what do you even mean with "cherry-picking an answer" if that compliment is cherry-picking, then is your 1 post with an answer that says 'No, however we want the player to choose their scenes' not cherry-picking?
Your reasoning earlier that there wasn't NTR was that 'everyone horny, everyone bang' yet the game clearly has dating-sim system with 'romanceable' characters in it, which is even deepened further with the Loyalty stages, which normally would suggest deeper relationships than "Me caveman/woman, me fuck anything".

Honestly this isn't even a hill I'm willing to die on cause it's rather pointless and stupid, my point is that there are plenty of situations and scenarios in the game that happens that, especially on this site, a chunk of people would consider NTR. So telling people that there is no such thing and bait them into downloading this massive GB devouring game, then reach these scenes and feel betrayed is probably more misleading than some reddit rat photoshopping a couple images, imo.

And the word that breaks your logic is 'consider'. At that point, it is your personal feelings that override everything. As I said, by definition, this game does not have NTR.

We can run up multiple definitions, if you wanna put it to the test:

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"Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other."

There is no committment to a relationship with any of the characters we've seen onboard. The Captain often refers to DEMI as his best mate. There isn't marriage, there's no rings on fingers, no one's religious besides the Imperium (aka the bad guys).

The Captain also says this:

Meaning he has no intention to stop using DEMI because he's just fucked Lily. To which Lily replies:



At that point, you have two adults making a decision that they do not care if the other fucks anyone else.


We can throw up another one, just for a more fleshed out definition:

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" A term used for a story theme that focuses on a particular type of cheating/

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in a relationship in an adult-oriented real-life video, manga, or anime. The person that cheats is initially forced against their will (either physically, by being blackmailed, or by the influence of an ingested or injected mind-altering substance) by

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(s)/perpetrator(s) to participate in a sexual encounter but then is mind-bended to enjoy and/or accept the experience. Also, the cheater often is not fond of the instigator(s) before the encounter and may state that they love their significant other at any time in the story, but ends up deciding to continue the affair with the instigator(s) afterwards. The victim (the person being cheating on) is usually unaware of the betrayal by the cheater, and the instigator(s) if the victim knows him, her, or them. The story often hints that the victim may never know/find out about the continued affair. This theme is intended for

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and will end up

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some readers, but others will find it arousing."

The waifus aren't forced, they are independent characters.
They've never gave any indication they aren't fond of the mantics, nor is there any comparisons to the Captain
The Captain is fully aware of these activities, and is not made to feel inferior

This is literally facts over feelings. If you feel like this is NTR, then I'm sorry that you feel like the world is constantly against you that has you in such a mindset that a fictional character having an independent way of thinking somehow personally hurts you.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Ah okay, so valid feedback should go to Steam ? Then it appears I've posted the correct place by posting here and not Steam then.

Much better to be a crazy person shouting at the sky, than give feedback that actually reach the creators right?

 

[JustLittleTinyMe]

And the word that breaks your logic is 'consider'. At that point, it is your personal feelings that override everything. As I said, by definition, this game does not have NTR.

We can run up multiple definitions, if you wanna put it to the test:

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"Netorare is a genre of anime, manga, or video game focused on infidelity. Commonly a subgenre of pornographic hentai anime, netorare storylines typically focus on the internal distress caused by one member in a relationship cheating on the other."

There is no committment to a relationship with any of the characters we've seen onboard. The Captain often refers to DEMI as his best mate. There isn't marriage, there's no rings on fingers, no one's religious besides the Imperium (aka the bad guys).

The Captain also says this:

Meaning he has no intention to stop using DEMI because he's just fucked Lily. To which Lily replies:

At that point, you have two adults making a decision that they do not care if the other fucks anyone else.


We can throw up another one, just for a more fleshed out definition:

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" A term used for a story theme that focuses on a particular type of cheating/

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in a relationship in an adult-oriented real-life video, manga, or anime. The person that cheats is initially forced against their will (either physically, by being blackmailed, or by the influence of an ingested or injected mind-altering substance) by

You must be registered to see the links

(s)/perpetrator(s) to participate in a sexual encounter but then is mind-bended to enjoy and/or accept the experience. Also, the cheater often is not fond of the instigator(s) before the encounter and may state that they love their significant other at any time in the story, but ends up deciding to continue the affair with the instigator(s) afterwards. The victim (the person being cheating on) is usually unaware of the betrayal by the cheater, and the instigator(s) if the victim knows him, her, or them. The story often hints that the victim may never know/find out about the continued affair. This theme is intended for

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and will end up

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some readers, but others will find it arousing."

The waifus aren't forced, they are independent characters.
They've never gave any indication they aren't fond of the mantics, nor is there any comparisons to the Captain
The Captain is fully aware of these activities, and is not made to feel inferior

This is literally facts over feelings. If you feel like this is NTR, then I'm sorry that you feel like the world is constantly against you that has you in such a mindset that a fictional character having an independent way of thinking somehow personally hurts you.

You can pull up as many terms as you want, it still doesn't change how NTR is viewed generally on this site. You've been on this site since 2017, you should know how it rolls here by now .
I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but that's just how it has been on this site for a long time. So if someone on here asks if it's NTR or not, then most of the time you're misleading them.
The most common way I see NTR being considered on this site is basically "If love interest fucks someone or something else then it's NTR" which by term I actually disagree with, but that is how that genre is often being seen as on this site.
Personally I wouldn't actually consider this game to be text-book NTR, but I can definitely see how it would be for others on here.