andybc

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a lot more backers trust me, besides that, yes they were upfront about why they changed their model after multiple times of changing it back and forth. What they were not upfront about is, is that they were talking about how much they have already finished in content (while kickstarter was running, way before ea release), and this and that, would be in for start of ea and blablabla...meanwhile not even half of what they said was finished was in the ea and during ea in dev diarys they talk about how they now work on it...but why do they have to work on it? when many of the things as they said before ea were finished?

Dont get me wrong i wish the best for Subverse, but a lot of things they said before ea and after it contradict themselfs a lot.
Also we are not talking Indie anymore...they got 1m+ through kickstarter + sales on steam (they were #2 in trending sales there) and other platforms, for development, while "indie" devs often dont even have a 100k as a budget but have more complex systems+content and more content and dont even have half the development time + they are a lot less people sometimes just 1 person.

Subverse reached 1m+ on kickstarter at May 2019 and they worked on it already way before that, keep that in mind.
For how barebones the systems, gameplay and content is in **lets say 3years** not counting the work before kickstarter, of development, i think its pretty clear why not just "100" backers are annoyed and angry but a lot more than that.

Just saying...as mentioned personally im not angry at all anymore since i feel like im not allowed to be, since i never paid for it.
Wtf… if you think 1m isn’t indie anymore, than almost all good indie games you’ve heard of don’t qualify. Indie isnt just one person working on a game as a side hobby creating bloat ware. So many terrible takes about game dev, like the guy comparing one of the best triple A studios to this game. LOL.
 

sivertop

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Wtf… if you think 1m isn’t indie anymore, than almost all good indie games you’ve heard of don’t qualify. Indie isnt just one person working on a game as a side hobby creating bloat ware. So many terrible takes about game dev, like the guy comparing one of the best triple A studios to this game. LOL.
you should probably re-read, i never said indie is 1 dev, and i never said 1m is considered triple a or something like that, im also well aware what counts as "indie" nowadays and what it was meant to be in the first place. Either way, im not interested in discussing more about this, since people clearly only read what they want to read and take things out of context.
Also this thread is not about discussing these things, i apologize for doing that, with that i consider myself out of this discussion.
 

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The devs really could've put Subverse on sale like almost all other erodevs are currently doing on Steam. But no, they really don't give a fuck.
Just looking at the sale field, the other lewd games appear to be...completed. And this is already the 'on sale' price, as it'll go up when its reaches 1.0.
 

bobr12

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Is anybody else encounters bugs in the game or it is just me? Black skin without suit naked captain in scenes(dialogue's) or in deva mode working 50/50 and can crashing the game, maybe others i don't remember.
 

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Is anybody else encounters bugs in the game or it is just me? Black skin without suit naked captain in scenes(dialogue's) or in deva mode working 50/50 and can crashing the game, maybe others i don't remember.
No this last update has its fair share of problems, hopefully its all fixed next month.
 

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anyone gonna share the new wips/gallery or is it a strict "play the game asshole" argument?
What new wips? If you mean the devblog, that's public on the steam page. And nothing's new been added sex-wise besides the foreplay videos to the previous waifu's recruitment scenes. The rest will come in the 2nd half of the update, July 25th.
 

Sharks are Evil

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What new wips? If you mean the devblog, that's public on the steam page. And nothing's new been added sex-wise besides the foreplay videos to the previous waifu's recruitment scenes. The rest will come in the 2nd half of the update, July 25th.
a new version came out but I didn't see anyone share the wips of the sex scenes.
 

Purple_Heart

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I made a list of 35 games and written their development times. I'd put more games on this list but I'm incredibly bored. Here's how I made this list:
1. I've checked my games folder and googled their name +" development time"
2. I've checked Steam's indie section(top sellers) and googled their name +" development time"
3. About half of them didn't have any info about their development time. The ones I found are listed here.

Crucial details:
1. Games listed here are made with various budget limits. Some had high budget, some had 0 budget so devs worked for free.
2. They are made by various dev team sizes, from tiny indie dev teams as small as 1 or 2 people to AAA devs.
3. Some are developer's first game so they had to create everything, they didn't had the luxury of "reusing assets".

But why did I make this list? Here's why:
Money doesn’t equal speed. Anyone that expected a 30+ hour intended game to be done in a couple years just plain has no idea how game dev works.
Why are you comparing the dev team who made God of War with StudioFOW? Am I missing something here? lol. That just seems like a crap comparison, and more angry people from the F95 community yelling into the void again.
So many terrible takes about game dev, like the guy comparing one of the best triple A studios to this game. LOL.
So, now feel free to argue about:
- muh employee count
OR
- muh budget
OR
- muh experience
OR
- muh graphics
OR
- muh file size
OR
- muh reused assets
OR
- muh cherrypicked games(all in development hell) are made in 1000 years, not in a few years!!!

I'm done here, feel free to defend studiofow with your lives, maybe they will put your names as "defenders" in the game's credits screen, that is if they ever manage to release the full game before you die of old age.
 
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