I agree with this completely. Huge let down, fan boy mods that probably won't pass half the multitude of criticisms with the pandora system onto the devs... Damn waste of potential, I hope they go back to making movies quickly.Even this is ten times better than no context whatsoever. Watching animation loops is as far from playing a porn game as you can get. Even in Rance there's a lot of interesting scenes which involve backstory of girls, his characters and stuff like that. If you'd simply get an art of him fucking a random girl after you grinded enough points - nobody would praise those games.
Subverse already tries to provide some context like with recruitment scenes and it works well despite scenes themselves seriously lacking (you just jump right into the animation, no dialogs, no undressing animation, almost no interactivity). What's laughable is how these barebone scenes are "premium" ones.
You don't even need to integrate the porn in the plot, just make optional side events. Like you completed a mission using Lily and she got horny. You get a new dialog with her, you talk about lewd stuff, maybe add some dialog options here and there and after that show an animation, even if that same loop from Pandora. Add some dialogs during the sex. Fill the game with these optional events and voila - Subverse suddenly became a much better porn game with actual interactions with girls and lewd content outside of simple animations. In Pandora you can just have two modes - replay the whole event and one is like currently - just the animation.
It's honestly so easy to fix and yet it doesn't seem like they want to put any efforts into this. Their community mod acts like a complete retard and defends this fundamentally flawed Pandora system to death. I hope the feedback will reach them. Subverse should be a revolution for high production porn games but if they'll keep their lazy approach for future content there will be no revolution just a disappointment.
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thats why your "opinion" on the game is null you gave it next to no time and in an hour you would still be in the tutorialI played normal 1 hour, after that I used a FULL save file to see all scenes and dont waste my time.
Rance is an actual game compared to this one and its complete, you get what you payed for.Lets look at rance , we spend hours playing just to unlock a sex scene that is only 2/3 images, and rance has a lot of success. I think they put the same mentality in subverse, a game with porn content and not a porn game
The rance sex scenes have context and dialog. Actual effort put into having them make sense with whats happening on screen. As other people stated, this is just a game where you use points to unlock a gallery instead.Lets look at rance , we spend hours playing just to unlock a sex scene that is only 2/3 images, and rance has a lot of success. I think they put the same mentality in subverse, a game with porn content and not a porn game
Thats nice combination of lies and idiocy. Most porn games that was made after 95 has plot in porn scenes. Even fucking "step bro I got stuck in the dryer" has context of partisipants being kinda-siblings, one partisipant being there unwillingly and that one partisipant starts the scene in provocative pose. This way people who is going to masturbate to it can relate themselfs to situation, imagining iether having a sexy non-sibling under their roof or being stuck and giving in to unavoidable pleasure. Same goes to Rance were people most likely relate themselfs to Rance, who is sex-terrorist, traversing universe and having sex with willing and not so willing parters without consequnces, giving them best fuck of their lives and making them whant more.Except most porn in porn games is largely unrealted to the plot, and is simply a reward for beating some random fetch quest, or something similar. There is about as much "context" to porn in most porn games as "step bro I got stuck in the dryer" porn movies have. Like a lot of the sex in Rance is "I defeated you in battle, now I will rape you becuase I am Rance and that is what I do!"
People tend to take good writing as norm. If DC would have just dropped animated scene without any context, like "press x to fuck goth girl" and than bam, you are seing animation without any backstory of where and when and why and how you are banging a goth girl, than his patrons will go ballistic of such neglectance.Games that do try to tie the porn directly into the plot get mocked because of how bad the writing is. Look at Summertime Saga, its the porn game with the most patrons of any porn game out there, and is the third most patroned project on Patreon. I have never once seen anyone actually claim to like Summertime Saga's story. The only thing people enjoy is that some of the girls are hot, and they want to see them get fucked. In fact, every time DC tries to do a story update there is collective moaning because it means one less update where we aren't seeing the girls people care about getting new scenes. The only time there was any praise of SS's writing was the Roxy update, and even that was only "in relation to the rest of SS's writing this is good".
Because people are idiots who dont understand how hard it is to write a porn scene. And if people shit about writing, than they actually are interrested in it being done well. There is also need to be distinction between game plot(which is general story) and porn scene plot(which is a scenario of this actual sex scene)The same is true of things like Milfy City, Being a DIK, Good Girl Gone Bad, and especially Seeds of Chaos. People just shit all over those games for awful writing, unlikable characters, and the devs extending plots out for years, instead of actually letting us have sex with the girls. The devs know no one cares about their mediocre melodrama, and just want to see the main girl take it, and the moment they do everyone is going to bail because that is what they are there to see. So they stall it out to rake in the cash. And Seeds of Chaos has its own problems where getting to anything requires reading the whole Lord of the Ring trilogy between each scene.
Most of their movies have at least some scene plot. 2B undergoing violent sex experiments, Major being hacked, kidnapped and brainwashed into a slut and so on. This is a plot, good enough to most.Now compare to FOW's movies. They barely had any context or plot beyond things like "demons are invading Tokyo and raping all the girls!" like the Kunoichi series, and FOW was by miles the biggest SFM/Blender animation group on Patreon because of it. No one cares about the plot of Kunoichi, they just want a bare bones premise for putting the girls into situations to get fucked.
Oh boy, seriously? Most of doujin have a plot, they usually use some original narrative and crank situation into kinkfeast. But they are not like, sex without dialogs, context and finale.The same is true of the vast majority of doujin. Most doujin are like 30 pages long, with a "step bro I got stuck in the dryer" type plot. The ultra long form narrative ones are the small minority, and most of those don't turn out well in the end either.
Thats a story plot. But where is scene plot? Is lily being raped by tentacels or is she the one who released it on herself? Maybe tentacle attacked when she was asleap or maybe its capitain being idiot released it on her mid dinner? Does dami have short circuit thats makes her temporary dumb after orgasm or is she preprogrammed to this unrealistic emotions? You see, having some actual plot in porn is much more interresting than having a loop of robot having dumb face and Vsign.subverse provides the context it needs to. They are in a galaxy ruled by an anti-sex opressive empire, and all the girls are massive turbo sluts wh ofuck anything, so here is some explanation as to where all the things you can see them fuck come from.
>they are sluts but whyExcept most porn in porn games is largely unrealted to the plot, and is simply a reward for beating some random fetch quest, or something similar. There is about as much "context" to porn in most porn games as "step bro I got stuck in the dryer" porn movies have. Like a lot of the sex in Rance is "I defeated you in battle, now I will rape you becuase I am Rance and that is what I do!"
Games that do try to tie the porn directly into the plot get mocked because of how bad the writing is. Look at Summertime Saga, its the porn game with the most patrons of any porn game out there, and is the third most patroned project on Patreon. I have never once seen anyone actually claim to like Summertime Saga's story. The only thing people enjoy is that some of the girls are hot, and they want to see them get fucked. In fact, every time DC tries to do a story update there is collective moaning because it means one less update where we aren't seeing the girls people care about getting new scenes. The only time there was any praise of SS's writing was the Roxy update, and even that was only "in relation to the rest of SS's writing this is good".
The same is true of things like Milfy City, Being a DIK, Good Girl Gone Bad, and especially Seeds of Chaos. People just shit all over those games for awful writing, unlikable characters, and the devs extending plots out for years, instead of actually letting us have sex with the girls. The devs know no one cares about their mediocre melodrama, and just want to see the main girl take it, and the moment they do everyone is going to bail because that is what they are there to see. So they stall it out to rake in the cash. And Seeds of Chaos has its own problems where getting to anything requires reading the whole Lord of the Ring trilogy between each scene.
Now compare to FOW's movies. They barely had any context or plot beyond things like "demons are invading Tokyo and raping all the girls!" like the Kunoichi series, and FOW was by miles the biggest SFM/Blender animation group on Patreon because of it. No one cares about the plot of Kunoichi, they just want a bare bones premise for putting the girls into situations to get fucked.
The same is true of the vast majority of doujin. Most doujin are like 30 pages long, with a "step bro I got stuck in the dryer" type plot. The ultra long form narrative ones are the small minority, and most of those don't turn out well in the end either.
subverse provides the context it needs to. They are in a galaxy ruled by an anti-sex opressive empire, and all the girls are massive turbo sluts wh ofuck anything, so here is some explanation as to where all the things you can see them fuck come from.
Depends on whether you gave them money.When they raised money, they said that they had half the game ready and that they would launch Early Access when the campaign was over. Something went wrong and they soon announce (when they raised the money) that they are not satisfied with the state of affairs (quality) and they are not going to release the game in Early Access. Instead, they will bring it to perfection and eventually release a finished product. As a result, we have a happy raw Early Access. Am I the only one feeling cheated?