Gaggy

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fucking germany did a reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and most adult games from steam are gone ffs this gem is gone too
 

Joshua Tree

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It just occurred to me that they would raise the price to a "full game" one when it's complete
That doesn't make any sense what so ever. If that would make any sense, and was a model they would go by, then every update would come as a dlc chapter everyone had to pay for...
 

Vace234

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The final result better be more than a few gif loops. Because that 40$ is going to play a huge role in how many sales the game is make.
 

Gwedelino

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That doesn't sound like a good practice..... However, if that is the price they landing on, that better reflect the amount of "missing" content they will pour into the game before it complete.
It doesn't seems right for people that didn't get the information and think that 29,99 $ is the "normal" price while in reality it's a discount price.

However, their statement says that this discount prince will stays until the 1.0 release so don't worry about this it will stay at 29,99 $ for years.
 

Quintilus

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Yes, and no... Big issue with adult content is money processors. People like to get paid for their work (games in this case). If you can distribute your game through a platform such as steam, you don't have to worry about it. If you release a game on mobile, and you can't get it sold through an app store. It become hard to monetize of it.

When looking at the adult movie industry. There was a golden age before the internet. Then internet came and everyone with a camera could start make and release content with snap of a finger in addition to rampart piracy. Big budget adult movies did occur and was profitable when people still bought VHS, and later cd/dvd's. Today people just go to pornhub (whatever) and jerk of to free stuff, the market is just not there anylonger...

In term of worth, it would be wrong to put a value on a single movie Brazzers make, but look at the worth of the entire company as whole. Their worth is probably a lot more than you think...
Patreon, bitcoin or even direct card to card....remittance??? is still exist. Even more, overwhelming majority porn games are actually developed from money received from mentioned sources.
Problem is, most people dosent much interested in "how tentacle fuck human (or furry) vagina" content. They more interested in good old dicking, rape and H U M I L I A T I O N (IMPRESSIVE ACCURACY EXCELLENT QUAD DAMAGE)
 

Joshua Tree

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Patreon, bitcoin or even direct card to card....remittance??? is still exist. Even more, overwhelming majority porn games are actually developed from money received from mentioned sources.
Problem is, most people dosent much interested in "how tentacle fuck human (or furry) vagina" content. They more interested in good old dicking, rape and H U M I L I A T I O N (IMPRESSIVE ACCURACY EXCELLENT QUAD DAMAGE)
Patreon is dependent on the likes of PayPal... PayPal got a long history of screwing over the adult history. Patreon got rules of what is allowed or not of adult content on their site. The guys behind Subverse got banned from Patreon due to some werewolf lewdness. Subverse would not been able to be funded through Patreon due to the content. I guess steam a bit libral when it come to adult content after all...

End of the day, all you describe involves money processors. Turning bitcoins into tangible cash on your account require money processors to do the transactions. The harder you make it for the end user (the player, the consumer of adult entertainment, whatever), the less likely they are to buy/trade with you. Another note about bitcoin, many doesn't want to deal with processing transactions due to possible legality issues as well.
 

Joshua Tree

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So there was an interesting email I got.

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If this imply VR version for the game, I hope that get worked on after the full release. VR games can be fun enough, but I don't think a lot of people will line up to buy hardware for VR just for this game though.
 

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That doesn't make any sense what so ever. If that would make any sense, and was a model they would go by, then every update would come as a dlc chapter everyone had to pay for...
Ya I've seen this done before by some devs - House Party did this as well, it was $15 during EA and I believe they raised the price to like $25 later on.

It doesn't bother me - it's basically giving people incentive to 'have faith' by giving them, in the case of Subverse, 25% off the game if you take a chance and buy the game during EA.

Thankfully I'm 'wise to the world' enough that I know where to take 'test drives' of games on my own as I determine their worth, but if I was a dev, I'd probably give discounts if I did an EA to encourage people to jump on board and basically be testers who give valuable feedback to help shape the game, etc.
 

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I don't want to perpetuate the argument of what is ntr and what is not so I'll ask my question this way. I have used the search and have gotten some confusing results on what goes on in this game. Some say there is ntr and some say there is not, while others say the girls have sex with others, other than the mc with people giving mixed results on this as well. I am not here to argue with anyone, but just want to be informed. So my questions are these do the girls have sex with others (including aliens) other than the MC? If this does occur is it a situation where it is avoidable, and if it is avoidable is it just that it happens offscreen and you don't see it, but still occurs or does it just not happen at all? Again just want to see if it something I would be comfortable playing. Any answers are appreciated.
 

Joshua Tree

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I don't want to perpetuate the argument of what is ntr and what is not so I'll ask my question this way. I have used the search and have gotten some confusing results on what goes on in this game. Some say there is ntr and some say there is not, while others say the girls have sex with others, other than the mc with people giving mixed results on this as well. I am not here to argue with anyone, but just want to be informed. So my questions are these do the girls have sex with others (including aliens) other than the MC? If this does occur is it a situation where it is avoidable, and if it is avoidable is it just that it happens offscreen and you don't see it, but still occurs or does it just not happen at all? Again just want to see if it something I would be comfortable playing. Any answers are appreciated.
All sex scenes you unlock in Pandora and watch at your own leisure. Apart for the "recruitment" scene with the girls that is (so far), you the mc and the girls....

The girls can have scenes with xeno aliens (beasts). Using them as sex pets (whatever). If you consider that ntr, well... thats it. If you don't like it, then don't unlock it... quite simple really.
 
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For anyone wondering they did an ''What's Next'' Update on their Kickstarter page if anyone wants an update/have an read.
Pretty much Info on all the stuff, also the Romance stuff because I think that's what most of your care about, 3-4 minute sequences with the girls etc
 
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I don't want to perpetuate the argument of what is ntr and what is not so I'll ask my question this way. I have used the search and have gotten some confusing results on what goes on in this game. Some say there is ntr and some say there is not, while others say the girls have sex with others, other than the mc with people giving mixed results on this as well. I am not here to argue with anyone, but just want to be informed. So my questions are these do the girls have sex with others (including aliens) other than the MC? If this does occur is it a situation where it is avoidable, and if it is avoidable is it just that it happens offscreen and you don't see it, but still occurs or does it just not happen at all? Again just want to see if it something I would be comfortable playing. Any answers are appreciated.
Currently there is no cuck or NTR in the game....because there are also no relationships or romance in the game - the girls aren't even really waifus. So far the girls are basically just sluts that do anything. Also, all sex scenes are completely detached from the narrative outside of (3) Recruitment scenes, which really have little to no context for the scene, but are basically the only canonized 'scenes' in the game.

As far as monster stuff it is canonized with Lily as there are conversations that do happen that indicate she 'takes her work home with her' involving the mantics so to speak. There's also a specific conversation where she talks to the captain about having boned a couple dudes at the same time in a brothel or something in the past (the captain apparently remembers her from that location). Some people might consider these 'cuck' type things (and for the record I'm not into cuck or NTR stuff), but IMO they can't be defined as that because the game has open relationships, which again, for the record, I consider to be an error by the dev team with the way they designed this aspect of it.

It's worth pointing out that the game is on v0.1 which means a lot can change, so my advice to you would be 'test drive' the game yourself and give your feedback on the Steam forum and Subverse Subreddit on what you liked / disliked. While there are things I really liked about the game, I think the sex is terrible, not because the animations are bad, but because of the lack of context, and just the way they've handled romance / relationships in the game.

For me, coming out of checking the game out myself, I am not buying it right now as there's too much I don't like (all of those things are with the sex / romance parts of the game), but I thought the graphics were great, and I enjoyed the schmup missions as well as the story so far. I am basically in a holding pattern waiting to see what kinds of changes they make to the game moving forward and then I'll re-evaluate.
 
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For anyone wondering they did an ''What's Next'' Update on their Kickstarter page if anyone wants an update/have an read.
Pretty much Info on all the stuff, also the Romance stuff because I think that's what most of your care about, 3-4 minute sequences with the girls etc
Thanks - here's a link to what you are referencing for others to make finding it easy -
 

Joshua Tree

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For anyone wondering they did an ''What's Next'' Update on their Kickstarter page if anyone wants an update/have an read.
Pretty much Info on all the stuff, also the Romance stuff because I think that's what most of your care about, 3-4 minute sequences with the girls etc
I liked in particular the RECRUITMENT section :ROFLMAO:
 
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