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Krosos

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That's what every VN here does oldshool adult games is what i call them
Jesus i want that we improve further than that, did we got stuck in Time ?

Everything arround moved but we keept frozen in old ideas and concepts and technology wise on that level as well ?

And we need UNREAL for that :D

That totally underpowers it
 
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Readerf2b

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So when you bench yourself in front of your tv/monitor with your preferred brand of lotion for some happy time. You go for the deep meaningful porn movies with plot, deep characters and context.... fair enough :ROFLMAO:
So you play only games without plot, because letters make you soft?
 

Joshua Tree

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So you play only games without plot, because letters make you soft?
Actually I prefer literature, rather than visual in your face... But if you just after some material for a quick release I never heard people need that deep plot and context.... Damn, all those people faping to pornhub and similar... they doing it wrong I guess..
 

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So you play only games without plot, because letters make you soft?
Letters can make a hard on lasts longer than the Roman Empire if you know how to craft it.

Otherwise... well, good luck surviving a potential cringe material.
 

Krosos

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Words bring you to the Sex they buildup the tension the atmosphere the emotional states.
Words can be like a foreplay themselves and the Sex itself should be your Interaction, of course works only perfect in VR but at least it can be done way better than Subverse shows it and others do it better already also outside of it.
 
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"Help me step bro im stuck 4" had such a great storytelling i really hope they elaborate on the subplot about the broken washingmaschine more in the next sequel.

wait what you guys mean the plot didnt matter??? preposterous!
 

Joshua Tree

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Words bring you to the Sex it buildsup the tension the atmosphere the emotional states Words are a foreplay itself and the Sex itself should be your Interaction of course works only perfect in VR but at least it can be done way better than Subverse shows it and others do it better already.
You could pick any random story at sites such as literotica or similar, and it would be far more exciting than most of the games on this site. If you want to bash of Subverse for the lack of story etc, then it just end up in good company with majority you can find here already.
 

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You could pick any random story at sites such as literotica or similar, and it would be far more exciting than most of the games on this site. If you want to bash of Subverse for the lack of story etc, then it just end up in good company with majority you can find here already.
Yeah, you are right, but maybe people are more sensitive about this case because the rest didn't say they are "first true, premium porn experience".
 

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Yeah, you are right, but maybe people are more sensitive about this case because the rest didn't say they are "first true, premium porn experience".
This is indeed my big point of criticism, too. I know, nowadays talk is incredebily cheap and this kind of stuff works really well to get people on board, keep them hyped and make them spend money, but it'll inevitable make those angry, who expect that to be objectively true and then get something, that's about as good, maybe a little better, as what's on the market in some areas and quite worse in others.

There's simply a correlation between what you promise and what you deliver.
 
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Joshua Tree

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Ya know...conversations like this is why the phrase 'different strokes for different folks' exists.
Well there is a slight difference, I don't really care about how "different folks do their strokes to whatever tickle their fancy. Some people seems to think they doing it wrong, unless doing it their way :ROFLMAO:
 

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Well there is a slight difference, I don't really care about how "different folks do their strokes to whatever tickle their fancy. Some people seems to think they doing it wrong, unless doing it their way :ROFLMAO:
Yeah but just this whole discussion over whether porn needs a story or not behind it is like the old pizza delivery guy/plumber coming to a housewife's place. Like premise is one thing, but not everyone needs a life story.

That being said, you are getting to know these character's life stories. Much like in Mass Effect, over time. So are the current Pandora scenes contextless (aside from the Recruitment scene), yeah. But as they explained, its only a small bit of it, plus it was just kinda added to get the system running. It can improved, and they see everyone wants it to be improved. So just relax and wait to see, ya know?
 

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So when you bench yourself in front of your tv/monitor with your preferred brand of lotion for some happy time. You go for the deep meaningful porn movies with plot, deep characters and context.... fair enough :ROFLMAO:
It's a video game, and the main point of a video game is to have interactivity between the player and the game.
Moreover this game was branded as a porn video-game, so people expect at least some interactivity with porn scenes.

One way to do it, it to give some context to those porn scenes and to link those porn scenes to the story.

For example, I think that the recruitment scenes (expecially the one with killysion) were without a doubt the best scenes of the early access, because we had context.

I know that I could fuck this hot redskin alien waifu because I helped her to get what she wanted.
 

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It's a video game, and the main point of a video game is to have interactivity between the player and the game.
Moreover this game was branded as a porn video-game, so people expect at least some interactivity with porn scenes.

One way to do it, it to give some context to those porn scenes and to link those porn scenes to the story.

For example, I think that the recruitment scenes (expecially the one with killysion) were without a doubt the best scenes of the early access, because we had context.

I know that I could fuck this hot redskin alien waifu because I helped her to get what she wanted.
Well, it seems many want to remove the mechanics that allows for that interaction, or lead up to it. You know the things you had to do to earn your romp with Killysion...Remove that, and all you have left is "press next"... And then you don't really have game any longer.

They already said they would add more fringe kink content to the game. And I suspect that could be far more "in your face" shock value than the xeno beasts already had people cry over. If you integrate that as a part of the story and throw it in peoples face without it wouldn't make it any better. At least now people get given a choice.
 

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If every scene was integrated into the story, I guarantee there'd be 10x more complaining about how the Xeno scenes are forced and its an NTR game.
A game dev a couple pages back, I think his username was 'Zimon' or something similar, had a great suggestion to deal with that - you simply make it choice based, which adds replay value, injects context into the xxx content for the game, allows the player to feel like they're shaping the story, and the captain's personality a bit as well.
 
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A game dev a couple pages back, I think his username was 'Zimon' or something similar, had a great suggestion to deal with that - you simply make it choice based, which adds replay value, injects context into the xxx content for the game, allows the player to feel like they're shaping the story, and the captain's personality a bit as well.
So you want them to make a more branching story, which means more dialogue, more script, more VA work, and generally just more time and money. Given that the story, all 22 chapters of it, is already penned and recorded, I just don't see that happening. The choice is already there with Pandora.

I get people wanted the Mass Effect of smut games, but 2 million and 2-3 years of development just isn't enough for that. That's why the sex system is simple, the combat is simple, its their first game.

We've heard from the devs and the VA's that they love how the story builds on the characters relationships, so there's gonna be like context with some of the sex scenes, just not every single one of them. And considering there's gonna be dozens, if not hundreds of Pandora scenes from various categories to choose from between 10 girls, I think that's the best we could have asked for.
 

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So you want them to make a more branching story, which means more dialogue, more script, more VA work, and generally just more time and money. Given that the story, all 22 chapters of it, is already penned and recorded, I just don't see that happening. The choice is already there with Pandora.
Pandora is terrible and offers no context within the narrative, so yes - a branching story is what should have been done to begin with.

I get people wanted the Mass Effect of smut games, but 2 million and 2-3 years of development just isn't enough for that. That's why the sex system is simple, the combat is simple, its their first game.

We've heard from the devs and the VA's that they love how the story builds on the characters relationships, so there's gonna be like context with some of the sex scenes, just not every single one of them. And considering there's gonna be dozens, if not hundreds of Pandora scenes from various categories to choose from between 10 girls, I think that's the best we could have asked for.
I disagree, but we'll see where it goes, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised, I just don't have high hopes for that. But the one thing I will do is give them a chance.
 
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