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Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.0] [Studio Fow]
A system designed and implemented to patch a soft lock created by a former system could... get this... be solved by amending the former system. Gifts/Trash items don't have an actual purpose in their gameplay loop but dumping into girls on the end if you played on mechanics instead of on unlocking content. PP could just be one currency, problem solved and balooning coding footprint averted from needing a gift system (with no anger or personal relationship/relationsim elements) accounting for past and future girls. As a "game for adults" that is badly designed.
Captain underpants being able to say fuck isn't what makes this an adult game, it's the porn m8. The AO rating comes from the Tits and monster sex. Do you really want to keep septupling down on the game as a "real game for adults" when it fails far harder when viewed as an Xcom and bullethell game compared to name a legitimate title of either genre? At least Valien knows to hide behind the smut.
I'll give you a direct comparison, one highly relevant.
It was also a front end crowdfunded title made by people who had made a name for themselves in the industry and pivoted it into the game. It's also listed on steam and frequently ends up in steam promotions if you have the adult tag allowed. It also released in early access, but on time if not ahead of schedule.
A little game called "Max Gentlemen Sexy Business"
It is an adult game, with adult humor, and very, very, very VERY little porn for it's runtime.
I reviewed right here. Highly. Why?
>Because it's fun
An actually good management game with clever adult humor, good OC characters, mostly interesting unique takes on game mechanics for its genre, all topped off by decently written relationsim elements with it's dozen+ characters.
It legitimately was dragged down and hamstrung by giving itself an unwarranted adult rating. Without a few pairs of tits it'd be a MA or lighter and just as entertaining.
And unlike subverse they hit the ground running to exit early access and start producing further content for the title, within weeks having a newgame+ and extented ending gamemode.
Subverse without the pandora system and porn barely even qualifies as a game. It's just two newgrounds flashgames in a trenchcoat shouting fuck. There is no nonporn reason for your "game for adults" to operate on. it's entire underpinning and central plot mechanic is just accessing the pandora system. That is why they're so afraid to pull this card out from the bottom of their stack of cards. Fixing the pandora system requires making a competent game. Even a fully linear one following basic conventions is seemingly beyond them, they're afraid to try and think they can power through to the end of development on this misguided game design and baffling idea people are here for the "Adult themes" of not deadpool being zany and not the "Adult content" of monster sex people expected to be fully VA'd and animated like their past works.
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I forgot you had a full copy of the completed game and could review it as such... right?
I mean we only have the repeated dev response that they aren't changing the core game systems and powering through with this overarching game design but who am I to tell you to listen to the word of your personal godhoward.I forgot you had a full copy of the completed game and could review it as such... right?
If they lied to you and ignored their community mods and fanboys about changing the game, it'd be the first smart thing they've done concerning post launch development.
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Where did they say they would change the game according to what the fanboys and community wanted? They said they did listen to feedback. That doesn't mean they will be dictated in how they make their game. Seeing what people post of desires and wishes on the steam forum. Should they just implement and change whatever people wanted, because that would make a good game right? Maybe you should apply for a position as game designer?
I know you tend to hide behind this convenient misinterpreting shtick, but if the community mods who are caught dead to rights censoring and banning any legitimate criticism of the current game and the rabid fanboys are of the opinion the game is fine as is and we just need more of it, what would FOW have to do to ignore them?
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I seen a lot of criticism where people haven't got banned as well. Don't make it sound like everyone that raise a voice get banned. I seen some god awful behavior where people been banned justified. I'm not saying mods doesn't do wrong. Some threads on this site quite vocal about such., but usually a case got at least two sides and the truth somewhere in the middle.
If you read through the feedback thread you will find quite some good suggestions on things to improve, critic and so forth, but don't get surprised if posts of the type "x & y suck, CHANGE, gief more porn NOW!". get deleted..
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Not saying he is wrong in regard of the moderator. Just saying he show us what he want to show us. If he ended up get an apology and a ban lifted then why keep cry about it?
Seen users on this forum post about they went to some creators discord and "told them", resulting in a ban (and not just one time), then come back post about it to gloat as it's some sort of honor badge. With such mentality floating around I don't really have half a ear or eye open when people complain about get banned. Same when I also consider what I seen of peoples behavior on the subverse steam forum that got them banned.
So, posted your critic and feedback in their feedback thread yet? Did it get you banned? Since NBV isn't banned any longer there, maybe he can post a link to his feedback and critics on the steam forum? People can cry about been gagged, but where is the pudding?
Seen users on this forum post about they went to some creators discord and "told them", resulting in a ban (and not just one time), then come back post about it to gloat as it's some sort of honor badge. With such mentality floating around I don't really have half a ear or eye open when people complain about get banned. Same when I also consider what I seen of peoples behavior on the subverse steam forum that got them banned.
So, posted your critic and feedback in their feedback thread yet? Did it get you banned? Since NBV isn't banned any longer there, maybe he can post a link to his feedback and critics on the steam forum? People can cry about been gagged, but where is the pudding?
You're literally saying "Yeah well he's not banned now so why does everyone have a problem with their mods acting in bad faith???? I mean have you personally been banned recently??????? Maybe you should have posted in the Steam community instead... thats controlled by community moderation... appointed by the developer..."
If you didn't think F95 was a high traffic source of potential customers that 'defending' the game like this could funnel over buy the game and support studio FOW you wouldn't be here.
I honestly wonder how you're not conscious of the damage you're doing to the "brand" of Subverse.
If you didn't think F95 was a high traffic source of potential customers that 'defending' the game like this could funnel over buy the game and support studio FOW you wouldn't be here.
I honestly wonder how you're not conscious of the damage you're doing to the "brand" of Subverse.
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You are the one stating everyone posting critic get banned. So where is the feedback and critic you posted? Did you get banned? I been involved in piracy of games (whatever), since I got a c64 way back. When internet became a thing that expanded many times over. If you want to accuse people of shill for something to attract customers on a pirate site, then you don't come across as very bright.
With the amount of fertilizer you are spreading all over Subverse you shouldn't talk about brand damage
And you have a legitimate copy if memory serves, follow the development, are active in the official media portals for the game. And are doggedly defending the game, making accusations, lowering yourself to personal attacks, and circling the wagons to find a shred of light in all the darkness to claim that at some point in the future if everyone just waits the promised AAA porngame (their words) will materialize. On a piracy site. Y tho. Seriously.You are the one stating everyone posting critic get banned. So where is the feedback and critic you posted? Did you get banned? I been involved in piracy of games (whatever), since I got a c64 way back. When internet became a thing that expanded many times over. If you want to accuse people of shill for something to attract customers on a pirate site, then you don't come across as very bright.
With the amount of fertilizer you are spreading all over Subverse you shouldn't talk about brand damage
Explain the rationale behind how do you think you're helping foster the brand by claiming a PM chain with those at the top about their own moderation practices isn't enough "proofs" there is an internal issue with how they handle feedback within their power to delete?
You really don't seem to understand your own archetype here
All us meanieheads said our piece about the game around launch and don't think it's improving. The .2.2 leak more than likely will vindicate that when someone wastes the bandwidth and any new scenes will be on rule34video a minute later. The thread isn't bumped by the people who honestly rated and played the game, it's bumped by... others, which generates these flurries of posts in response. Now F95 pops up when you search "Subverse free" pretty damn quickly and fresh eyes might react to the dichotomous difference between our rating and the steam rating, maybe not privy to the fact the lions share of current reviews were posted the first hour the game launched and slowly ticked down to it's present state losing nearly 20 points in aggregate. In the absence of lets call it a "clear comparison" it may even seem we're being overly critical. Too nitpicky. Going against the grain for it's own sake. That is until you see the active discussion with the games gallant defenders interacting with said community. I bet a lot of them come away from that thinking "Oh. Good thing I didn't spend $30 on this."
My spread is covered. If the game stays like this the 2.5 rating is accurate, if it improves it'll be because people complained loud enough. And by backchannels, fomenting a public perception they've lost control of. (The public perception of most games journos/youtubers as of now with the hype firmly dead for those that bother to keep tabs on dumpsterfires.)
From your perspective how is that you've positioned yourself to eat crow if they radically improve the gameloop and lean heavily into pornography? I don't see how you'd find that where you want to be, as a customer or general state of being.
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Ack, my pride. if only I'd known a version number change was a lie from studio FOW! I'd assumed erroneous in my great folly they may not be 100% in devhell on real builds when someone posted an update link.
yeah sidestep, deflect and act flippantly. 50% of the time it works every time. I still really don't get how the hill you want to die on is the main gameloop shouldn't be improved and the game shouldn't expand it's integration with pornography. Like, why would you want that?
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Newsflash... games get a new version number when they updated with a bugfix...
Nothing keep you from post feedback on the steam forums. You don't need to own a game to partake in the forums. You can hide if you own the game or not in your profile as well. So how about it bob, where is your feedback?
I never said what the game shouldn't do, or shouldn't be. Just referred to what the devs said about it themselves. There is even youtube links further back in the thread where they talk about it. In case reading is a issue. Just as I don't throw a judgement on some 0.1 release on this site, I don't see why should do it with a game in early access on steam either.
And back to the start of the script. You said a lot more past that, as you have many time before, most recently a page back.
Your "opinion" is this isn't a porn game because the devs said so, it's a bigboy adult game for adults and the AO rating is for... something other than ever present sex with dog monsters, and are apparently happy with that as the state of things for why they shoved the still integral pornography into a side interface. In a gameplay loop entirely centered around farming points to feed into a machine that spits out contextless sex scenes instead of doing the normal, conventional, thing and having the content narratively integrated as milestones to a "waifu"s relationship. A system they have stated they aren't entertaining changing while banning critique and suggestion wherever they can due to in the best case unprofessional moderators. A known quantity at this point of a game that launched in a feature complete state with almost a third of it's narrative content implemented. After over Two years of development. It isn't a .001 because it is in early access, it wasn't supposed to release in early access at all. But these are your stated beliefs you've held within the last 12 hours.
Your "opinion" is this isn't a porn game because the devs said so, it's a bigboy adult game for adults and the AO rating is for... something other than ever present sex with dog monsters, and are apparently happy with that as the state of things for why they shoved the still integral pornography into a side interface. In a gameplay loop entirely centered around farming points to feed into a machine that spits out contextless sex scenes instead of doing the normal, conventional, thing and having the content narratively integrated as milestones to a "waifu"s relationship. A system they have stated they aren't entertaining changing while banning critique and suggestion wherever they can due to in the best case unprofessional moderators. A known quantity at this point of a game that launched in a feature complete state with almost a third of it's narrative content implemented. After over Two years of development. It isn't a .001 because it is in early access, it wasn't supposed to release in early access at all. But these are your stated beliefs you've held within the last 12 hours.
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If the creator say they are making a game for adults, and not a porn game, well that is what they are doing right? If you want a porn game you want something that serve up one kitty after the other to nut too.. Not have you play tactical ground combat and a shoot em up and get served lewdness on the side. You can feel free to define subverse to whatever you feel like like, but it doesn't change the fact it is what the creators decide it is.
Posted your feedback and critic on the steam forums yet? Maybe afraid of get banned by the scary mod monster....
Unless you can come up with something new, going back and forth with you get old very fast. Especially when you grab fertilizer out of thin air with no recites to show for.
Mantics with the most agressive genitalia Steam allows fucking girls in every hole is just Lewdness he says, the rich tactical gameplay of the two stripped down 24hr gamejam versions of Xcom and shmup are the true draw of subverse he says, between the complete failure of his ability to type out of...
While still somehow thinking it's defensible that the higher ups of FOW actively know about their "overzealous" mods managing their community forums such as steam. Yet again at best it's incompetence not malice at attempting a cross platform media presence, but they still know. Not the best look, or the best thing to defend "bob."
While still somehow thinking it's defensible that the higher ups of FOW actively know about their "overzealous" mods managing their community forums such as steam. Yet again at best it's incompetence not malice at attempting a cross platform media presence, but they still know. Not the best look, or the best thing to defend "bob."
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- More full sex scenes cinematics instead of small loops
- More context / story related to those sex scenes
- Fuck this Pro-NTR / Anti-NTR debate.
That's all, topic completed
- More context / story related to those sex scenes
- Fuck this Pro-NTR / Anti-NTR debate.
That's all, topic completed
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There is no NTR because there is no love to begin with, it's literally a orgy. There's no cheating, because there are no gf or bf, there are literally sex machines , penis shaped ships. And here you debate about NTR?
NTR is there only if you somehow see it as some kind of relationship because you self-insert and you want it to be there for your personal fetish.
NTR is there only if you somehow see it as some kind of relationship because you self-insert and you want it to be there for your personal fetish.