GifMeMore1987

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You do quests/missions and earn points. You spend the points to unlock scenes in Pandora. In addition you need to create new Mantics to to unlock some as well. As they release new updates to the game more content get added to Pandora. The scenes you see in there now, is all there is for now.
Yeah, I get the point/unlocking system. I was just wondering when new scenes are added to Pandora (new locked ones that is) or if I have all available scenes (81 right now).
 

Puzzlehead

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Well I was happy when I finally could download 0.3.0 just to get hopes crushed cuz it forces steam to start. It's not like I don't have Steam but my country is a dick so it's not possible for me to play.
Solution "streemster"? Oh please... since almost a year it says "coming soon". Devs don't care about it. Only thing that good for me a bit is that I didn't spend a cent on it at least and it will stay that way...
 

GifMeMore1987

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Well I was happy when I finally could download 0.3.0 just to get hopes crushed cuz it forces steam to start. It's not like I don't have Steam but my country is a dick so it's not possible for me to play.
Solution "streemster"? Oh please... since almost a year it says "coming soon". Devs don't care about it. Only thing that good for me a bit is that I didn't spend a cent on it at least and it will stay that way...
Instead of complaining you could've read my answer: you need the crack file to run it without opening Steam. Works just fine!
 
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UZone

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I feel like there are some misunderstandings in this thread about what "a porn game" or "a game with porn" actually means. At first glance, I didn't even make any distinction between these phrases as they literally meant the same thing to me. At some point during the development, however, some people started emphasizing that Subverse was always MEANT to be a video game first, and an adult experience second, i.e. a "game with porn".

On the other hand, they think "a porn game" is your run-of-the-mill RPG Maker/2D sidescroller hentai game with static CGs and basic gameplay/visuals. That is, an adult experience first, game second...Well, what did you expect with the shoestring budgets these indie creators have? Of course they can't make a REAL game (TM) by themselves with just their monthly Patreon earnings of a few thousand USD at most.

I am certain the vast majority of backers expected Subverse to be an adult experience first, but with the added bonus of it feeling like an AA game with enjoyable gameplay and great visuals. I am tempted to make another poll about this silly discussion on semantics, but there has already been plenty of screenshot proof in previous pages that even the mods and devs have literally called it a "porn game" on Discord.
I'm still wondering how some people actually differentiate a "game with porn" and "a porn game" (hence my quoted post above). If anyone can actually bother to explain what they mean by that exactly, that would be great.

As a bonus, I want to see how people would rate Subverse based on JUST its gameplay experience, excluding all the adult scenes, since the gameplay is supposed to be the star of the show apparently. My personal bet is that Subverse would get about 5.5/10 on Metacritic if it was released as simply a regular game (and get about 100 times less sales).

Funnily enough, I never had anything against the gameplay being just average, as this is their first game after all. The part that FOW was super experienced in was supposed to compensate for that though.
 

pjaiisnmaa

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I'm still wondering how some people actually differentiate a "game with porn" and "a porn game" (hence my quoted post above). If anyone can actually bother to explain what they mean by that exactly, that would be great.

As a bonus, I want to see how people would rate Subverse based on JUST its gameplay experience, excluding all the adult scenes, since the gameplay is supposed to be the star of the show apparently. My personal bet is that Subverse would get about 5.5/10 on Metacritic if it was released as simply a regular game (and get about 100 times less sales).

Funnily enough, I never had anything against the gameplay being just average, as this is their first game after all. The part that FOW was super experienced in was supposed to compensate for that though.
gameplay is simple, if it was cheaper and was not crowdfunded then it would probably be a better than average game, without the porn , the art style is very appealing and is unique enough IMO. but with the porn it becomes a good with porn
 

Joshua Tree

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I'm still wondering how some people actually differentiate a "game with porn" and "a porn game" (hence my quoted post above). If anyone can actually bother to explain what they mean by that exactly, that would be great.

As a bonus, I want to see how people would rate Subverse based on JUST its gameplay experience, excluding all the adult scenes, since the gameplay is supposed to be the star of the show apparently. My personal bet is that Subverse would get about 5.5/10 on Metacritic if it was released as simply a regular game (and get about 100 times less sales).

Funnily enough, I never had anything against the gameplay being just average, as this is their first game after all. The part that FOW was super experienced in was supposed to compensate for that though.
If you look at all the "games" found on this site, and I say games collective even majority can't really be rated as games. Most require very little interaction from your side. And many of those that try present themselves as VN's not all that great at most times either. Why not draw some ideas from games such as Ace Attorney, Zero Escape etc and SEX it up..

Maybe people got to used to gobble up mediocre stuff just because it got lewd content. The more effort it require of you to progress, game mechanics you have to deal with. Resource management (whatever obstacles), and where the erotic content is a result/reward of the progression you make, I consider that become a game with porn/erotic content. Not just a porn game where you hit next to serve up another pussy after the other with as little effort as possible. Games that make you do the dishes or massages someone's feet 100 times to progress. I don't rate as games foremost either, just a abysmal pointless grind.

When it come to the gameplay of Subverse. It's not something exceptional or special. It got a watered down tactical ground combat, that I seen in many games before it, and I'm quite sure we will see in many games after it. Just those other games didn't have any sexual content in it... People argue there is other games that make better shmup games. Yeah, but where is the sexual content in them? They are not trying to reinvent the wheel here, they still offer a fun experience. Of course if the only thing you are interested in is space pussy and boobies you will get a poor experience. Growing up playing games on the c64/Amiga such as Galaga, R-Type, Project X, Turrican and so forth. I thought the shmup brought a retro/nostalgic feel, but that is just my own experience.
 
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mrbungle50221

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So the quest for Celestina nudes was just a tease and you get nothing for it?
It's part one of what I assume is a side quest chain they haven't fully implemented yet. Also judging from the time lines and the data storage being old, I'm going to guess the Empress Nudes are actually Kassiadora..
 
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So... Does this looks like a game yet or it's still in the promises realm?
It is a game, the elements that are already in are working well, it didn't crash for me and overall - it's an solid early access title.

That being said, I thought about what they promised and it's not really that mindblowing. Pandora is boring as fuck right now and there is no info on how they plan to make it better (outside of planned costumes).
They plan to work on ground/space combat to make it at least mediocre, hopefully they can make the side missions more interesting. Main quest ones have nice variety to them and voice acting, so they are obviously better.

Most folks complain about sex scenes without context and Studio FOW seems so retarded about it that it really boggles my mind.
They had their first big opportunity with Elaisha/Captain scene in the new update, but all they did was like 15 seconds of sex and rest of it being comedy bit with aliens reacting to them broadcasting their porn scene.

How the fuck they are not getting this? People play porn to fap. Did they suddenly got brainwashed or something?

Also their promised "big" 3 minute sex scene for completing waifu's loyality quest. Whoopity fucking doo, 3 minutes times 10 (number of waifus) gives us half an hour total. That's like one Kunoichi movie.

At the end of the day I don't really care, because they'll only get my money if they finish the game (I REALLY WANT to support quality adult games), but right now even their promised stuff does not blow my mind and it's not even that impressive compared to what they already did in their movies.
Making videogame is much more complex, I know that, but since the foundation is already there I really expect them to ramp up their efforts into making it much more interesting.
 
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GifMeMore1987

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Sooo I have played through the main story but haven't finished every side quest. My question: how do Pandora events become available? Do you have to finish everything? Right now I have:
- 20 Demi
- 14 Ela
- 23 Killi
- 24 Lily scenes.
I also have all six mantics.

Edit: corrected the numbers and false fact about Trisha.
To answer my own question: I finished all side missions and didn't get any extra scenes in Pandora.
 

Limited20

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Seems the xenos/mantics stuff will be the main focus of the game going forward. Still , its good that we get some Captain + girls content too. Tho I hope the xeno stuff can be fully avoid with them removing any mentions of it in dialog and codex.
Because as long as the girls mention it and it writen in the codex, it means that the girls still fuck the xenos evne if we do not "unlock" the scenes.

But honestly whats the deal with the xeno/mantics stuff ?
Since the doc creates them in the lab, they should not be "alive with a soul" or have their own consciousness.
Is that the case ?

Im asking since I want to play the game, but xeno/mantics stuff is pushing me away from the game xd
I need something to COPE :D

If for example the xenos/mantics were controlled by the Captain. Like that they would not be anything more than "toys" in my eyes and I can look passed it.
Especially if the girls would make comments later to the Captain. Like the girls thanking the Captain for his skillful controll over the xenos/mantics during the act.

If the Camptain actually controlls the xenos/mantics, then for me it would be the same if he took a dildo and ram it in the girls butts.

But if the xenos/mantics have a will of their own.... then it would be NTR in my eyes :(
 
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Joshua Tree

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To answer my own question: I finished all side missions and didn't get any extra scenes in Pandora.
Why would you? You can only unlock what is there. There wont magically appear new scenes to unlock. You need content updates to the game for that.
 
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