Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.0] [Studio Fow]

[Deleted member 324588]

Whether the people who criticize the game are a minority or not is besides the point, it is moot to the discussion.

It doesn't change the fact that from a game design point of view (and even by adult game standards) Subverse is at best an underwhelming game with many flaws, given the budget and overall production quality.

Most people are simple creatures; you need only see what is popular across different media such as music, games, television, etc to realize that just because the majority of people like something, it doesn't make that something good or above criticism. Nothing is perfect of course and everything has haters and critics who most of the time are a very small minority.

But the point is that even Subverse's the critics are a minority, it is definitely a much more sizeable minority than usual for a piece of media (in a percentage), which in itself speaks volumes and is a testament to the game's design failings, regardless if the majority of people liked the game, because as we established, most people have simple needs and don't have enough knowledge to know when something is flawed.

The conclusion is that the majority of sfow's audience were of people who are into adult videos, and not adult games, so if Subverse happens to be one of your first adult games that you played then it will surely seem like an impressive thing, because the presentation is great. But for people who have more experience with adult games in general, then the sub-par execution is more clear, which consequently generate the displease seen here.

forgot the ‘in my opinion part’ there.

From my own experience played other adult games or not doesn’t really mean that much to the experience here. I’ve played illusion games, rpgmaker games, plenty of VN’s, both in development and fully completed ones, and this just goes above and beyond all of them, which is a good thing.

“The conclusion is that the majority of sfow's audience were of people who are into adult videos, and not adult games”

Yes, and people gave them money for a game. Of which they’re getting.

“Whether the people who criticize the game are a minority or not is besides the point, it is moot to the discussion”

So that there’s people with negative views of the game completely nullifies the positive ones? Your next paragraph seems to imply that the negative reviews are the most important ones, which I think would be a big mistake. That just screams ‘Last Jedi to Rise of Skywalker’ where the negative criticism was taken the most in, and the trajectory of the films went way off track.

There’s plenty of ways to present criticism, there’s many positive posts that also ask for things for the next update. But most of the reviews here are not the kind that a dev would care to read.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Looks like steam mods have the subverse forum on overwatch or something. Some "chinese" threads get deleted as soon as they appear. Next up, steam get under siege by Cbinese for denying them the "freedom of democracy" to protest...

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Looks like steam mods have the subverse forum on overwatch or something. Some "chinese" threads get deleted as soon as they appear. Next up, steam get under siege by Cbinese for denying them the "freedom of democracy" to protest...

think that’s steam actually, I believe there’s some system they use when a review bombing like this occurs

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Off topic, but negative reviews were NOT the ones reponsible for the sequels sucking.

personally I liked the direction TLJ was going with it, but it seems they just backtracked all over it. But yeah off topic.

 

[Joshua Tree]

think that’s steam actually, I believe there’s some system they use when a review bombing like this occurs

Yeah, but saw not just regular mods there today, saw some with actual VALVE tags on them doing some enforcing.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Yeah, but saw not just regular mods there today, saw some with actual VALVE tags on them doing some enforcing.

Makes sense, can’t just not deal with something that significant. Specially if the dev contacts them about it.

 

[Razrback16]

Can review bombing actually harm the game sales?

Eh, only for lazy people who don't read some of the actual reviews and just look at the percentages (and in my experience most people read the reviews or even inquire on messageboards if they want more information). It's important to actually read what people have to say. When I'm interested in a game on Steam, I read reviews from verified owners, and I use the options in the filters to only read reviews from people who are not only verified, but have played the game for a specified # of minimum hours and I look for commonalities in the positives and negatives to see what people think is good, bad, and mediocre before deciding whether to buy a game, and for how much $.

With the whole Chinese language translation issue, devs gave their answer to that topic, and some people were angry about it and cited it in their reviews as it was apparently important to them.

Ultimately it doesn't matter if people just read what the reviews have to say. When there's a criticism of something that doesn't matter to a potential customer, that customer just skips over that review as it doesn't apply to them.

Another route some who aren't sure will take is to the high seas where they can test drive the game and decide if it's for them and then if they like it they may then choose to buy it.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I think some of the most recent positive reviews will trigger some people down there in China land..

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Respect! Studio FOW


Also it seems like Steam taken a ZERO tolerance of Chinese threads (threads/posts started in Chinese) on the Subverse forum atm. Not just locked, but removed all together. Rather than deal with translate these things I think they doing a "no fucks given" approach.

 

[replica]

west taiwan so fragile, so weak.


well if they are really "chinese" why they can't read Traditional Chinese


if emperor xi know they play this kind of game, their hard earn social credit score 'll gone

 

[tt1230thomas]

Why I can't start the game after I downloaded the game? It keeps jumping me to steam and the application not launching

 

[Joshua Tree]

Why I can't start the game after I downloaded the game? It keeps jumping me to steam and the application not launching

Here is a hint...

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[GifMeMore1987]

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I'm relatively new to this site, so I also have a question: is there a reward for the 100th user asking the same question? It would explain a lot.

 

[Joshua Tree]

I'm relatively new to this site, so I also have a question: is there a reward for the 100th user asking the same question? It would explain a lot.

Use the search box and check how many posts about crack show up in this thread. (or steam)

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

They made a comment in their new post about the 'GIF loops' for the h scenes. They say they are not an animation studio with 80+ animators working on this. As the most crowd funded adult game of all time I expected better tbh

 

[Joshua Tree]

They made a comment in their new post about the 'GIF loops' for the h scenes. They say they are not an animation studio with 80+ animators working on this. As the most crowd funded adult game of all time I expected better tbh

Maybe you should mention it's not actual gif loops as well.

What you expect means nothing, you are not the one that employ the people and pay the wages.

 

[Razrback16]

They made a comment in their new post about the 'GIF loops' for the h scenes. They say they are not an animation studio with 80+ animators working on this. As the most crowd funded adult game of all time I expected better tbh

You're not alone in this. Fairly common critique of the game from what I've seen.

 

[rf96]

Chinese review bombers. Apparently they didn't like the localisation made in traditional Chinese (Taiwan).

 

[Joshua Tree]

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Chinese review bombers. Apparently they didn't like the localisation made in traditional Chinese (Taiwan).

There is no Chinese localization at all yet. These bumfuckers got it in their head SFOW is pro Taiwan, and don't want any Taiwanese to do the translation and gone all political about it. It's a bunch of self entitled aholes. Anyone that read the news piece about the Chinese localization update see this is not the case. All these Chinese players hide behind vpn's, and go ballistic when SFOW say they see no traffic data from mainland China.

Checking the latest positive reviews it feels like a culture war with people hitting back at the Chinese mob. People giving positive reviews not necessary because they want to give one, but because they dislike what the Chinese doing atm.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

So many 'but the budget' comments, and I wonder how many of those come from people that's have been an employer, let alone one that has had to hire high-skilled workers for substantial contracts.

 

[OdinValgallovih]

Joshua Tree
VValen
You guys need to take a break.
I'm tired of reading your crazy comments, how much are you getting paid for them?