Mr. Weeaboo

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They made the porn disconnected with the gameplay, this is why most of the reviews are negative
I find this argument rather silly. Because half the complaints are that the content in pandora is short, but yet they also want it connected into the story.

Personally, I think the reason they did it this way is so players that didn’t want to watch certain content (and there were soooo many that don’t) that they don’t have to see it if they don’t unlock it. Pandora even has filters to avoid such a situation. That’s why the main story content just features scenes relevant to said story: I.E plot scenes between the captain and the waifus he recruits.

That being said, they are changing the waifu’s progression system and are updating all the planet encounters. So perhaps the version people have been wanting so much will be in 1.0. Something so big is not something that could’ve been dropped into the middle of the game development.
 

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So that doesn’t come off a bit harsh to call any given unfinished game a waste of time? All the smut isn’t in, the story isn’t finished, so that statement comes off a tad presumptuous.

I never said, that a game that is unfinished is a waste of time. I said, that a bad game is a waste of time!

And for me Subverse is a bad game.
 
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The ratings are pretty accurate. Game isn't good. It's a terrible slog-fest, combined with shitty dialogue and rather boring MC. People need to stop chalking it up to early NTR. It doesn't exist, and people understand that now.

Point is the sex scenes are godawful, you can find better ones just looking at JAVs, Porn, or even other games here, and they at least have story relevance. Here they're an after-thought and not really worth the effort to see them. Since they're not even interactable, they're just shitty 3D porn, that you could see by looking at anyone from the animations tab, at least there you got a lot of variety.

Ultimately Subverse does porn terribly, game isn't that fun, story isn't good, and the overall cast is just eh... I could find better casts of characters in other stuff found here. But the most damning factor is as a porn game the porn just sucks. I could look up the scenes online, and they're not too different from just watching another creators animations.
 

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The ratings are pretty accurate. Game isn't good. It's a terrible slog-fest, combined with shitty dialogue and rather boring MC. People need to stop chalking it up to early NTR. It doesn't exist, and people understand that now.

Point is the sex scenes are godawful, you can find better ones just looking at JAVs, Porn, or even other games here, and they at least have story relevance. Here they're an after-thought and not really worth the effort to see them. Since they're not even interactable, they're just shitty 3D porn, that you could see by looking at anyone from the animations tab, at least there you got a lot of variety.

Ultimately Subverse does porn terribly, game isn't that fun, story isn't good, and the overall cast is just eh... I could find better casts of characters in other stuff found here. But the most damning factor is as a porn game the porn just sucks. I could look up the scenes online, and they're not too different from just watching another creators animations.
I agree, Projekt Passion is what the game should be but with all that backing there seems to be a real lack of creative talent behind Subverse.
 
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I agree, Projekt:passion is what the game should be but with all that backing there seems to be a real lack of creative talent behind Subverse.
That's the issue. With a high budget like they had how are the sex scenes so lacking? I mean most like myself could forgive the game for having lackluster story and gameplay if the porn was just as good, but it isn't. It's the tamest, most boring stuff around.
 

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And you’re also taking into account the game isn’t done yet, I’d hope. Even now in its current state it still blows practically everything else on this site out of the water. I can’t go back to basic VN’s with no voice acting, Renpy models with slightly different haircuts, and combat mechanics that are basic as match 3 or click the right object in the background.
Bruh please do not act like the game will be better when 1.0 is out.

We've seen everything the game has to offer.
The gameplay is repetitive and nothing special.
The plot is mediocre at best, the dialogue is cringe and dates itself before it's even fully complete.
The porn is good, the animations are smooth and the voice acting is good. There is credit to be given there

Saying "well it's not done yet" would make sense if this was still 0.3 but the game is almost done! I think that excuse has worn out its welcome.

If you like it cool, but please don't try and gaslight us and tell us it will get better lol.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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Bruh please do not act like the game will be better when 1.0 is out.

We've seen everything the game has to offer.
The gameplay is repetitive and nothing special.
The plot is mediocre at best, the dialogue is cringe and dates itself before it's even fully complete.
The porn is good, the animations are smooth and the voice acting is good. There is credit to be given there

Saying "well it's not done yet" would make sense if this was still 0.3 but the game is almost done! I think that excuse has worn out its welcome.

If you like it cool, but please don't try and gaslight us and tell us it will get better lol.
It isn't really worn out m8. You don't introduce substantial changes to the system in the midst of development. Most of the feedback the game has been given won't be applied until the system changes. Doing things like part-way into development is how you can screw things up, like duke nukem forever.

I am not gaslighting anyone, I'm trying to argue that calling this game a failure is just objectively wrong. If you don't like the comedy or the smut that's presently available, fine. But its disingenuous to say you've seen everything when you literally haven't yet.
 
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It isn't really worn out m8. You don't introduce substantial changes to the system in the midst of development. Most of the feedback the game has been given won't be applied until the system changes. Doing things like part-way into development is how you can screw things up, like duke nukem forever.
"substantial changes" bruh what the fuck are you talking about lmao, the core gameplay is xcom and shmup. Addding a "berserk mode" and side scrolling shmup stages does not change the fundamental gameplay loop.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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"substantial changes" bruh what the fuck are you talking about lmao, the core gameplay is xcom and shmup. Addding a "berserk mode" and side scrolling shmup stages does not change the fundamental gameplay loop.
The leveling system is changing, so the current two bar system (and therefore all saves currently) would be broken
The dating system at the bar is changing (ties to the leveling changes as mentioned above)
The planets and random scenarios is changing (in response to the feedback about integrating pandora content into the story)

Like just because you aren't reading the dev blogs doesn't mean you can pretend as though they aren't telling us these things.
 

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The leveling system is changing, so the current two bar system (and therefore all saves currently) would be broken
The dating system at the bar is changing (ties to the leveling changes as mentioned above)
The planets and random scenarios is changing (in response to the feedback about integrating pandora content into the story)

Like just because you aren't reading the dev blogs doesn't mean you can pretend as though they aren't telling us these things.
Like just because you don't know what a core gameplay loop is, it doesn't mean that these changes are that "substantial". Changing how leveling and "dating" work is not going to make the GAMEPLAY better. You cannot gaslight us and make us believe this shit. If it DOES change the CORE gameplay loop, I will personally eat my shoe.
 
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The porn is good, the animations are smooth and the voice acting is good. There is credit to be given there
I wouldn't even give it that. The porn really is not that good, especially when you compare the quality of it to any animations in the animation section. Not to mention a lot of it doesn't really strike any particular fetish really well, and a lot of them are just painfully boring.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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Like just because you don't know what a core gameplay loop is, it doesn't mean that these changes are that "substantial". Changing how leveling and "dating" work is not going to make the GAMEPLAY better. You cannot gaslight us and make us believe this shit. If it DOES change the CORE gameplay loop, I will personally eat my shoe.
You know what a core gameplay loop is, but then also call it repetitive. Do you not know the difference?

I wouldn't even give it that. The porn really is not that good, especially when you compare the quality of it to any animations in the animation section. Not to mention a lot of it doesn't really strike any particular fetish really well, and a lot of them are just painfully boring.
I feel like that's apples to oranges. An animator just purely making animation to play on its own doesn't have to think about how to place it within a game.

If that were the case, you wouldn't be able to properly compare the smut in this game to those other animations without seeing the devotion climax scenes first.
 

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You know what a core gameplay loop is, but then also call it repetitive. Do you not know the difference?
I called it repetitive because it's tedious to play. I even think it's fine because I like XCOM, my point stands. Them changing the way leveling work won't change the gameplay. The equipment being added is also not going to change the base game anyway.

Also that being said, they said they would only continue active development if the dough was still coming in. So even after 1.0, there is no guarantee that they will introduce anything else.
 
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I feel like that's apples to oranges. An animator just purely making animation to play on its own doesn't have to think about how to place it within a game.

If that were the case, you wouldn't be able to properly compare the smut in this game to those other animations without seeing the devotion climax scenes first.
Like how most animations are in this game already? You're acting like they're not already thrown in there without any context. What point do they serve in the game already? About the same as most smut animations being made normally. So, your argument doesn't hold any water. It would if they made them relevant to the plot of the game, or had any reason for them, but they did not. So it's essentially just a shitty 3D animation with very lackluster payoff. I'd take just watching an animation over buying Subverse for the porn, because at least with that I get more context in a 1 minute animation than I do a Subverse porn scene.
 

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It would if they made them relevant to the plot of the game, or had any reason for them
Soooo like the quest lines to recruit each lady thus far, with numerous dialogue scenes and cinematics, not to mention the pre-beginning teasers to them that were added around Sova’s update (in response to player feedback) don’t qualify? Or the same which is going to occur for the devotion scenes, which lest we forget will be several minutes of cinematic bonking? So times ten is about 30-40 minutes? I think they’re already gonna give enough in the story as is.

The pandora scenes don’t really need much context (though they already gave some with text descriptions which were added from feedback, go figure). The ladies are horny and despite how fast you might skip along the story, takes place over a long period of time (Killision’s map hunt is noted to be several weeks). So Pandora scenes to me is simply all the fucking they had along the way.
 

Mr. Weeaboo

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Is there a way to change that idiotic panty clad head of MC to something more appealing?
Hey no disrespecting the glory of Leezy-Chan, he worked hard to get those pair of undies xD

Also his design’s a reference to Hentai Kamen, so it’d be rather silly to remove said reference.
 

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Hey no disrespecting the glory of Leezy-Chan, he worked hard to get those pair of undies xD

Also his design’s a reference to Hentai Kamen, so it’d be rather silly to remove said reference.
A reference is a reference and the MC can be presented at first with that reference. After the introduction, the player can be given the option to disable the said reference, as it's as it can come off as cringeworthy, especially combined with the dialogue. So I don't agree on that point.
 
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So, I stumbled upon Jetsu4K's videos in a coomer (P)a(H)ge to see if there were anything new, and there was lmao. How do I access multi-angled PANDORA scenes? Do I have to open some sort of dev tool or something?
 
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