Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Readerf2b]

In the end, i hope for subverse 2, fixing it mistakes. In the end man can only dream.

 

[Readerf2b]

See, here's the thing with taking everything Pandora and scattering it into scenes all across the game: you'd potentially have people bitch how they missed scenes and now have to replay the entire game because they missed the window on a scene or two. Some people legit have a problem with porn games with routes for that very reason as well. They want it all in one go. If FOW actually paid attention to the porn game landscape in the past few years, they will have noticed that trend and I wager that's why they decided to just leave it as is while reasoning 'the people want content and don't care about the story therein' because, in a way, they really don't care. Or else harem games with the most inane snoozefest stories wouldn't be raking in money. Fuck all the girls in one go, that's really all that matters for the most part. Not something I personally agree with, mind you, but it is what it is.

Which makes this situation so incredibly fascinating. Since the game is geolocked for me, I also never really managed to play it much so I took the one release I did play (I believe it was around Taron's release), looked at it and figured 'yup, that's gonna be the final game', then decided to give it a honest try once the full game is out. I think the loops are nice to look at and there's worse to fap to, but I can see why that would annoy people.

I suppose the game was always gonna be hit or miss no matter which way you turn, be it the sex scene implementation, what is inside them (early thread was full of cuck this, cuck that like people were trying to redefine the term) or even just the general, pretty juvenile humor.

But hey, it made the likes of Tim Poole absolutely seethe due to the whole name thing, so there's that.

Except its not necessary to hard lock scenes behind the time gates or routs. In a free roam mod on the ship or in the galaxy you can have all scenes and quests becoming available.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

How do you raise Demi devotion, thanks for any info

DEMI levels by finding her parts across the galaxy.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

Not after they learned they can make a shitton of money through crowdfunding for less than minimum effort, probably gonna make another game, take longer to do it, and put less stuff in it.

Thar explains why they made an anniversary video, teasing the next palate of ladies they have eyes on and made a funding page for it, right…

 

[Kernist]

See, here's the thing with taking everything Pandora and scattering it into scenes all across the game: you'd potentially have people bitch how they missed scenes and now have to replay the entire game because they missed the window on a scene or two. Some people legit have a problem with porn games with routes for that very reason as well. They want it all in one go.

Yeah, that is true, however:
1. There are a lot of games with missable scenes that have more than 4 stars.
2. These games often have guides for people that don't want to miss anything.
3. These games often have an option to unlock every scene you missed after you finish the game, especially RPGM ones.
4. Amount of people who complain about missing scenes because of branching is very low in comparison to how many people hate Pandora system.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

they try too hard to make this a "proper game" with unneccesary cutscenes and stuff and lowball the sex part with lazy loop scene call "pandora". if you use tool to active free camera mode in pandora, you will see missing body part and stuff, that why they lock the camera angle in pandora scene !

Those are tricks used by everyone in the business because animating bodies is actually a real pain in the ass. You have clipping all over the place with 3D models. It's the reason why so many games actually have cameras only in specific spots even with something as simple as a kiss. It's to hide noses clipping into faces.

Every close up scene of Studio Fow videos in the past (like the Kasumi and Momiji cumswap in Kunoichi 2) will have some serious clipping appear outside the frame, that's pretty guaranteed.

 

[PayneToTheMax]

Yeah, that is true, however:
1. There are a lot of games with missable scenes that have more than 4 stars.
2. These games often have guides for people that don't want to miss anything.
3. These games often have an option to unlock every scene you missed after you finish the game, especially RPGM ones.
4. Amount of people who complain about missing scenes because of branching is very low in comparison to how many people hate Pandora system.

I can't really say a lot about the first three points (apart from maybe the whole star rating system itself being pretty flawed), but as for the fourth point, well, they don't have any scenes to miss so there isn't really anything to complain for them, so of course the people who hate Pandora are the majority of complaints.

 

[xocolonu]

They sorta kept that scene. I say 'sorta' because it is now an unlockable scene via PANDORA, though it does not take place in the starfighter and it is not interactable. Just a vanilla scene in the captain's quarters.

And no they didn't add more interactive scenes.

Sad, it had potential. Oh well.

 

[inco8nito]

There was a unity hook tool which I could view the subverse instances in Pandora in every angle I wanted but that was 3 years ago and lost it, does anyone knows what app it is? UE4 hook I think it was named but I Google it and don't find it

 

[SpicyHotBeef]

There was a unity hook tool which I could view the subverse instances in Pandora in every angle I wanted but that was 3 years ago and lost it, does anyone knows what app it is? UE4 hook I think it was named but I Google it and don't find it

 

[Spideyknight]

If you are going to edit your save with the online editor don't use blueball xp. It just sits there and doesn't apply the xp. Probably have to change current xp.

 

[Mr. Weeaboo]

It doesn't matter where you look but the universal complaint are the context less sex scenes that make 90% of all scenes and even Mr. Weeaboo here who holds the flag up for the game can't deny that. But he seems fine with it and can't see the problem.
That's fine I guess. I am glad that at least he has his fun with the game.

You’re very much misinterpreting my words and that’s a thing that happens far too much.

I knew from the get go people were gonna haaaate the initial launch. Then when the midway development change and only the new ladies got scenes I knew that would suck for the fans of certain ladies.

But I have to look at it realistically and try to see it from their side of things. They have a limited budget. They have no Patreon. Whether you want to say they should’ve just taken in more money is besides the point, they chose not to because it would bloat their goals and extend the wait even longer. The script was done before EA even began.

The story alone is already long, it being fully voice acted will make it feel even more so, since it isn’t just a bunch of soundless text. Full cinematic scenes also add to that. Yet the demand for 290+ scenes to be also crammed into it and given context is somehow the solution for many people.

Nevermind that team members leaving the project around midway drastically hurt development, leaving remaining ones to take on multiple roles (see the credits for examples), reducing the amount we could have seen, what you and so many others are asking for was not feasible. If they had all the time and money in the world, sure. I find it also ironic that the same crowd that thought they would sit on this project and milk it to high heaven are also the same type to ask for things that would have extended its development.

I would be happy if they had that. To not have to constantly defend this from a business standpoint, because FOW is an actual business, not just a bunch of singular animators working a side gig while having a 9-5, this is their 9-5. This had to be done, the priority had to be to finish the story and mark this as complete.

I wish they all had the same amount of scenes, shit for the longest time I was believing we’d see 40 for each gal to fill out the spaces that was in the builds up to now. While I’m not as bummed out because my favorite ladies happened to have some of the highest, I know Taron fans are, I know huntress fans are. They had to play the hand they were dealt, but we still got to the finish line.

By no means am I saying this game is perfect, I would not give it a 5/5, 10/10, paid IGN review. But that does not mean that what we got isn’t still so much better than the mass of Renpy titles, the RPGM series of games with 2D art to have a bunch of text overlay with generic moans and sounds. The titles that have been in development since before their Patreon ended (2018 if you want to check) and are still marked incomplete on this website.

Lastly regarding the characters that didn’t get any action: Kasidora was never gonna be lewded. This was known from the get-go. Her casting call specified it was a SFW role. If you didn’t know, now you do.

As for the Empress I’m gonna copy over what I wrote in discord, as believe it or not there are also people there also disappointed that the character the developers have stated was not a waifu for years didnt end up being a waifu:

Celestina is still an innocent adult learning about this world. She only *just* cooperated with the captain and the crew. It wouldn’t be logical to immediately expect her to give up her virginity. Her and Captain hold hands (aka the real lewd thing if you remember the first trailer’s humorous line about handholding), so if anything they’re just starting a relationship. It’s like how in the first Austin Powers movie, despite all the flirting he does, he doesn’t have sex with Vanessa until they end up married. For now they’re looking to the future as are we all. Kasidora is still alive and likely won’t take kindly to her choice. We’ll just have to wait and see what comes next.

I don’t know the future, but I know there’s still more content to come, there’s translations to do that’ll help bring in more fans and revenue, and there’s a lot of more gaming ladies in the world to make parody films of now.
Time marches on. Your opinions are yours, and I understand them, I do. Especially as someone who saw all of this first and could see exactly who it would tick off (again see the credits for why)

I’m just gonna reply to those asking game-related questions, as I really don’t wish to repeat this again. We can’t change how we got here or what we got. What if doesn’t do anything, what comes next is more important.

 

[Coloss]

If you are going to edit your save with the online editor don't use blueball xp. It just sits there and doesn't apply the xp. Probably have to change current xp.

any idea how to do that?
I've tried cheat engining my way in, but so far I only got Blue Balls XP (lol)

 

[Kernist]

I can't really say a lot about the first three points (apart from maybe the whole star rating system itself being pretty flawed), but as for the fourth point, well, they don't have any scenes to miss so there isn't really anything to complain for them, so of course the people who hate Pandora are the majority of complaints.

When I was talking about complains about missable scenes I wasn't saying about Subverse because as you said, Subverse has none. I was talking about complains in other games vs complains about Pandora in Subverse.

 

[Spideyknight]

any idea how to do that?
I've tried cheat engining my way in, but so far I only got Blue Balls XP (lol)

To edit saves, go to User\AppData\Roaming\Goldberg SteamEmu Saves\1034140\remote
Then change the file inside to .sav format and go to

You must be registered to see the links

After editing and downloading new save, replace the old save and delete the .sav so the game can read it.
I just did this and it worked. Of course, backup always just in case.

From the post a few pages back. Problem is just editing current xp doesn't seem to work either. It gives you the xp. But not the rewards for leveling up. It leveled me to 34 but didn't give me Lily's outfit.

 

[Kernist]

I’m just gonna reply to those asking game-related questions, as I really don’t wish to repeat this again. We can’t change how we got here or what we got. What if doesn’t do anything, what comes next is more important.

I'm sorry, but as much as the rest of your post is ok, this is just bullshit. You out of all people dare to say that. A lot of people saw where this is going and a lot of people wanted to correct it. FOW decided to silence any disagreement and you were always the first to support that. Now you dare to say we can't change NOW how we got here? You are the last person who should be saying that, you contributed heavily to this disaster.

 

[Coloss]

To edit saves, go to User\AppData\Roaming\Goldberg SteamEmu Saves\1034140\remote
Then change the file inside to .sav format and go to

You must be registered to see the links

After editing and downloading new save, replace the old save and delete the .sav so the game can read it.
I just did this and it worked. Of course, backup always just in case.

From the post a few pages back. Problem is just editing current xp doesn't seem to work either. It gives you the xp. But not the rewards for leveling up. It leveled me to 34 but didn't give me Lily's outfit.

weird, I don't have any file "1034140"?

 

[Kernist]

They shafted us so hard with Celestina, FOW knew how much people loved her.
I will show you the post when KS campaign ended, May 2, 2019:

Not releasing any scene for her is the biggest "fuck you" from them.

 

[Readerf2b]

You’re very much misinterpreting my words and that’s a thing that happens far too much.

I knew from the get go people were gonna haaaate the initial launch. Then when the midway development change and only the new ladies got scenes I knew that would suck for the fans of certain ladies.

But I have to look at it realistically and try to see it from their side of things. They have a limited budget. They have no Patreon. Whether you want to say they should’ve just taken in more money is besides the point, they chose not to because it would bloat their goals and extend the wait even longer. The script was done before EA even began.

The story alone is already long, it being fully voice acted will make it feel even more so, since it isn’t just a bunch of soundless text. Full cinematic scenes also add to that. Yet the demand for 290+ scenes to be also crammed into it and given context is somehow the solution for many people.

Nevermind that team members leaving the project around midway drastically hurt development, leaving remaining ones to take on multiple roles (see the credits for examples), reducing the amount we could have seen, what you and so many others are asking for was not feasible. If they had all the time and money in the world, sure. I find it also ironic that the same crowd that thought they would sit on this project and milk it to high heaven are also the same type to ask for things that would have extended its development.

I would be happy if they had that. To not have to constantly defend this from a business standpoint, because FOW is an actual business, not just a bunch of singular animators working a side gig while having a 9-5, this is their 9-5. This had to be done, the priority had to be to finish the story and mark this as complete.

I wish they all had the same amount of scenes, shit for the longest time I was believing we’d see 40 for each gal to fill out the spaces that was in the builds up to now. While I’m not as bummed out because my favorite ladies happened to have some of the highest, I know Taron fans are, I know huntress fans are. They had to play the hand they were dealt, but we still got to the finish line.

By no means am I saying this game is perfect, I would not give it a 5/5, 10/10, paid IGN review. But that does not mean that what we got isn’t still so much better than the mass of Renpy titles, the RPGM series of games with 2D art to have a bunch of text overlay with generic moans and sounds. The titles that have been in development since before their Patreon ended (2018 if you want to check) and are still marked incomplete on this website.

Lastly regarding the characters that didn’t get any action: Kasidora was never gonna be lewded. This was known from the get-go. Her casting call specified it was a SFW role. If you didn’t know, now you do.

As for the Empress I’m gonna copy over what I wrote in discord, as believe it or not there are also people there also disappointed that the character the developers have stated was not a waifu for years didnt end up being a waifu:

Celestina is still an innocent adult learning about this world. She only *just* cooperated with the captain and the crew. It wouldn’t be logical to immediately expect her to give up her virginity. Her and Captain hold hands (aka the real lewd thing if you remember the first trailer’s humorous line about handholding), so if anything they’re just starting a relationship. It’s like how in the first Austin Powers movie, despite all the flirting he does, he doesn’t have sex with Vanessa until they end up married. For now they’re looking to the future as are we all. Kasidora is still alive and likely won’t take kindly to her choice. We’ll just have to wait and see what comes next.

I don’t know the future, but I know there’s still more content to come, there’s translations to do that’ll help bring in more fans and revenue, and there’s a lot of more gaming ladies in the world to make parody films of now.
Time marches on. Your opinions are yours, and I understand them, I do. Especially as someone who saw all of this first and could see exactly who it would tick off (again see the credits for why)

I’m just gonna reply to those asking game-related questions, as I really don’t wish to repeat this again. We can’t change how we got here or what we got. What if doesn’t do anything, what comes next is more important.

So they just spend a lot of money on things that are much less important for a porn game instead of making well written, voiced and integrated porn scenes - actually the only ONE THING that could have make this game better then your average renpy incest grindfest.

Because I doubt people were like "yay, at last we have 20+hours of mediocre plot and gameplay"
We kinda have whole non-porn gaming industry for that.

 

[Denji_DOG]

You’re very much misinterpreting my words and that’s a thing that happens far too much.

I knew from the get go people were gonna haaaate the initial launch. Then when the midway development change and only the new ladies got scenes I knew that would suck for the fans of certain ladies.

But I have to look at it realistically and try to see it from their side of things. They have a limited budget. They have no Patreon. Whether you want to say they should’ve just taken in more money is besides the point, they chose not to because it would bloat their goals and extend the wait even longer. The script was done before EA even began.

The story alone is already long, it being fully voice acted will make it feel even more so, since it isn’t just a bunch of soundless text. Full cinematic scenes also add to that. Yet the demand for 290+ scenes to be also crammed into it and given context is somehow the solution for many people.

Nevermind that team members leaving the project around midway drastically hurt development, leaving remaining ones to take on multiple roles (see the credits for examples), reducing the amount we could have seen, what you and so many others are asking for was not feasible. If they had all the time and money in the world, sure. I find it also ironic that the same crowd that thought they would sit on this project and milk it to high heaven are also the same type to ask for things that would have extended its development.

I would be happy if they had that. To not have to constantly defend this from a business standpoint, because FOW is an actual business, not just a bunch of singular animators working a side gig while having a 9-5, this is their 9-5. This had to be done, the priority had to be to finish the story and mark this as complete.

I wish they all had the same amount of scenes, shit for the longest time I was believing we’d see 40 for each gal to fill out the spaces that was in the builds up to now. While I’m not as bummed out because my favorite ladies happened to have some of the highest, I know Taron fans are, I know huntress fans are. They had to play the hand they were dealt, but we still got to the finish line.

By no means am I saying this game is perfect, I would not give it a 5/5, 10/10, paid IGN review. But that does not mean that what we got isn’t still so much better than the mass of Renpy titles, the RPGM series of games with 2D art to have a bunch of text overlay with generic moans and sounds. The titles that have been in development since before their Patreon ended (2018 if you want to check) and are still marked incomplete on this website.

Lastly regarding the characters that didn’t get any action: Kasidora was never gonna be lewded. This was known from the get-go. Her casting call specified it was a SFW role. If you didn’t know, now you do.

As for the Empress I’m gonna copy over what I wrote in discord, as believe it or not there are also people there also disappointed that the character the developers have stated was not a waifu for years didnt end up being a waifu:

Celestina is still an innocent adult learning about this world. She only *just* cooperated with the captain and the crew. It wouldn’t be logical to immediately expect her to give up her virginity. Her and Captain hold hands (aka the real lewd thing if you remember the first trailer’s humorous line about handholding), so if anything they’re just starting a relationship. It’s like how in the first Austin Powers movie, despite all the flirting he does, he doesn’t have sex with Vanessa until they end up married. For now they’re looking to the future as are we all. Kasidora is still alive and likely won’t take kindly to her choice. We’ll just have to wait and see what comes next.

I don’t know the future, but I know there’s still more content to come, there’s translations to do that’ll help bring in more fans and revenue, and there’s a lot of more gaming ladies in the world to make parody films of now.
Time marches on. Your opinions are yours, and I understand them, I do. Especially as someone who saw all of this first and could see exactly who it would tick off (again see the credits for why)

I’m just gonna reply to those asking game-related questions, as I really don’t wish to repeat this again. We can’t change how we got here or what we got. What if doesn’t do anything, what comes next is more important.

Holy shit, this shit still exists? I thought this pathetic "comedy" was abandoned a long time ago. And here some clowns explain that if a game has animations, then it is a priori better than RPG games with 2D graphics, lmao. Go look at Black Souls 2. The game was made by one person and it took 3 years, there are a lot of plot forks, endings, hentai in the end. And here a bunch of soy "animators" decided that they are fucking awesome game developers, but it turned out that they are just bullshits.