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Oops teehee, didn't realize normal users can call this trash out for what it is but a "new" profile gets censored. Good moderation! Also for free
Nah, you can see over a hundred pages of people trashing this game without being banned. You just did something else to get banned and you did it again (hint: ban evasion).

Edit: ah, misread there, thought your "for free" comment meant you just made a new account. That being said, read the rules about why you got your post deleted.
 
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HSHS1111

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While StudioFOW might have gotten quite as lot of money for a kickstarter or an adult game project it's still worlds away from anything you'd call triple A.
 

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This is actually a good thing imho, the more it can captures mainstream attention the more it'd also attracts actual professional game developers & publishers to think that porn games has very high demands but low supply and give making porn games a try.

The problems i keep encountering with all the good games i watched here is either they're abandoned, in a feature creep hell, just scam, or not handled by professional dev (some were even solo yolo indie dev). They oftentimes got the good ideas but none of the competence or pragmatic drive of a real game devs.
Not necessarily. There's zero push to "jump" into the adult market now based on a game brigaded deliberately by 4chan. Some middle level publishers >MIGHT< be more open to a "naughty" game, this is not any kind of sea change of any type or magnitude.

The main issue is the deliberate brigading, and the fact you're paying 30 dollars for what is ostensibly a $12 game in the best of lights, nevermind the "misperception" about "interactive" sex.

At current time this game is a 3.99 shmup and a 3.99 tile tactical and thus contains $22??? sex scenes roughly 14 seconds in length with zero interactivity except for "premium" scenes where you literally click a button. Contrast this against any content you can find online from any SFM/Blender/Maya creator much less someone pushing the technical AND content envelope like HydraFX Bewyx or Pewposterous and it doesn't present anything positive other than "hey publishers/devs, get controversial and snippy on social media, and you can oversell any r18/ao by triple the expected margins".

This also isn't SF's even fifth foray into controversy and "misunderstood expectations". Sure the average steam user has no idea whom these people are, and are likely thinking "hey mass effect lite with snogging, yay", but I'm not sure how you exactly translate that into "adult games are totally kosher and kool now", when no such animal exists.

If this had been a fantasy game instead of scifi, the sales results probably would have been far far different due to the amount of adult games coming out in this particular genre.

You're also completely skating over the fact the game sections of this game were outsourced.
 
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Joshua Tree

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Not necessarily. There's zero push to "jump" into the adult market now based on a game brigaded deliberately by 4chan. Some middle level publishers >MIGHT< be more open to a "naughty" game, this is not any kind of sea change of any type or magnitude.
Consider the world we live in atm, the money to be made in the adult market increased a lot though. People seeking new venues for their outlet....
 

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Consider the world we live in atm, the money to be made in the adult market increased a lot though. People seeking new venues for their outlet....
Maybe, but it wouldn't really be a market worth investing billions of dollars into. You have two Markets. AAA gaming which is a billion dollar industry and Porn which is a billion dollar industry. Sure there may be a market for adult games, but I doubt it would reach a point where it would reach AAA status of having a budget the likes of some of the biggest games on market. I just don't think adult games have reached a wide enough yet audience where a company would be comfortable enough to invest millions of dollars and expect that investment to triple in revenue.
 

Joshua Tree

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Maybe, but it wouldn't really be a market worth investing billions of dollars into. You have two Markets. AAA gaming which is a billion dollar industry and Porn which is a billion dollar industry. Sure there may be a market for adult games, but I doubt it would reach a point where it would reach AAA status of having a budget the likes of some of the biggest games on market. I just don't think adult games have reached a wide enough yet audience where a company would be comfortable enough to invest millions of dollars and expect that investment to triple in revenue.
Triple A games isn't really a huge part of the gaming market other than income/profit. Mid level and indy games make up the bulk of actual number of games. No, we won't see adult games with the budge of the likes of GTA series, Assassins creed and so forth, but that we could see double digit million budget adult games is not that far fetched.

The thing that hold back.. how to put it? More proper game studios is the stigma it carries to make such games. Where as the guys behind Subverse doesn't have anything like that holding them back. The interesting thing that might be worth looking at is how much Subverse end up make of profit. Because end of the day there is those that want to back you with money as long as there is profit to be made.

People cry about like Subverse raised SO MUCH MONEY.... But if you account for a dev team at their current size work a couple years, that is not really that much money in the grand scale of things.
 

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Actually it transform them into internal unreal format.
I'm not a native english-speaker so bare with me. Doesn't it import the FBX model first and then transform it? I mean you are probably right that it transforms it but how does it contradict my sentence?
 

Joshua Tree

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Cough..mobile gaming...cough
Mobile gaming is for one purpose. Put a straw into your wallet and milk you... I don't really see commercial adult games make it big on the mobile platform anytime soon. Also if you look at gaming as whole. Games on mobile fall under a own genre. You don't really have them compete with games you find more typical for pc. Like on steam, epic etc platforms..
 

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No, Triple A is a phrase the game industry started to use to reflect the money spent on development... You know like the 600 million USD budget rumored from GTA6...... That make it a Triple A. Also Triple A doesn't reflect actually quality of a game. Anthem, F76, Cyberpunk... list goes on and on and on...

Triple A experience could just as well translate to go to a fancy restaurant spend a fortune, get served several dishes of minuscule portions you end up doesn't even like the taste of. Leave hungry and drop into a local McDonalds to pick up something because you still hungry...
So we can say that Illusion games are the Triple A games of porn games.
 

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Mobile gaming is for one purpose. Put a straw into your wallet and milk you... I don't really see commercial adult games make it big on the mobile platform anytime soon. Also if you look at gaming as whole. Games on mobile fall under a own genre. You don't really have them compete with games you find more typical for pc. Like on steam, epic etc platforms..
Yes, most popular mobile games are something like "raiding on the shadow of a legend".
But there are, in any case, erotic mobile games. The fact that they are not present in appstore/googleplay is not mean that they are not exist.

IMO you should comparing game industry with film industry.
Is production of Brazzers have >9000 "money" of budget? No, its literally bald man in Super Mario outfit and half naked woman.
Does Disney comics films have >9000 "money" of budget? Yes, but...TBH well they are not that good. Or even good at all.

IMO Subwerse is rather exclusion from rules, because....I dont know why. Studio FOW isnt popular enough to pull "YO MANS, WE GONNA MAKE PORN GAME WITH ELIENS, EEEEE BABY" off just on its reputation.
 

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So we can say that Illusion games are the Triple A games of porn games.
I always hear people talking about how good illusion games are, and I never try to play this kind of game.

It is good just because of the porn, or does it offer good gameplay too ?

Currently Subverse is trying to do both.
 

SkyPirate122

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I always hear people talking about how good illusion games are, and I never try to play this kind of game.

It is good just because of the porn, or does it offer good gameplay too ?

Currently Subverse is trying to do both.
Well the gameplay is the porn itself in most of Illusion games except their newest game A.I. Shoujo in which there's some kind of survival, builder and taking care of your girl aspect.
 

Joshua Tree

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Yes, most popular mobile games are something like "raiding on the shadow of a legend".
But there are, in any case, erotic mobile games. The fact that they are not present in appstore/googleplay is not mean that they are not exist.

IMO you should comparing game industry with film industry.
Is production of Brazzers have >9000 "money" of budget? No, its literally bald man in Super Mario outfit and half naked woman.
Does Disney comics films have >9000 "money" of budget? Yes, but...TBH well they are not that good. Or even good at all.

IMO Subwerse is rather exclusion from rules, because....I dont know why. Studio FOW isnt popular enough to pull "YO MANS, WE GONNA MAKE PORN GAME WITH ELIENS, EEEEE BABY" off just on its reputation.
Yes, and no... Big issue with adult content is money processors. People like to get paid for their work (games in this case). If you can distribute your game through a platform such as steam, you don't have to worry about it. If you release a game on mobile, and you can't get it sold through an app store. It become hard to monetize of it.

When looking at the adult movie industry. There was a golden age before the internet. Then internet came and everyone with a camera could start make and release content with snap of a finger in addition to rampart piracy. Big budget adult movies did occur and was profitable when people still bought VHS, and later cd/dvd's. Today people just go to pornhub (whatever) and jerk of to free stuff, the market is just not there anylonger...

In term of worth, it would be wrong to put a value on a single movie Brazzers make, but look at the worth of the entire company as whole. Their worth is probably a lot more than you think...
 

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what make those unity/unreal engine game different from some r34 3DCG is the ability to directly control the gameplay,or at least control the camera ,these are many successful 3d studios out there make full advantage of this like Project Helius, miconisomi,...
And Subverse lacks of this,i mean their budget for making actual porn is like 10% while 90% for making Star War movies and Touhou ez mode gameplay
I like Subverse jokes inside the game, the chicken invader style gameplay,and unique characters design,but i hope they would give a better try at making actual porn-the main reason it got so hyped in next update
 
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These are all the sex scenes in the game so far as videos. Mega
Most of these videos are loopable except for the premium ones that could be controlled.
I'm including a text file that goes over the unused audio files in this first version of the game. This could mean that these scenes are coming in the future or that nothing will ever happen with them, hopefully the former. I could upload the audio if people want that.
Audio Pls, and where did you manage to get that?
 

Kardie222

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Triple A games isn't really a huge part of the gaming market other than income/profit. Mid level and indy games make up the bulk of actual number of games. No, we won't see adult games with the budge of the likes of GTA series, Assassins creed and so forth, but that we could see double digit million budget adult games is not that far fetched.

The thing that hold back.. how to put it? More proper game studios is the stigma it carries to make such games. Where as the guys behind Subverse doesn't have anything like that holding them back. The interesting thing that might be worth looking at is how much Subverse end up make of profit. Because end of the day there is those that want to back you with money as long as there is profit to be made.

People cry about like Subverse raised SO MUCH MONEY.... But if you account for a dev team at their current size work a couple years, that is not really that much money in the grand scale of things.
Meh, I don't think Subverse is going to be the huge double digit million dollar hit. I'm not even sure it's going to make back the kick starter money. If the game reaches 5 millions or heck even 3 million sells I'd be shocked.
 
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