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Well there it is.*waits to see the complaints about it*
lol, just got done reading through it. My quick reaction -

* I'm happy that they were pleased with their sales volume, means they will be able to hire some more folks and that's a good thing.

* I'm not convinced the end-state of the romance stuff and Pandora is going to be for me, but as I stated before, I'm in a holding pattern, and I'll absolutely give it a fair look as they release updates.

* More onboard interactions are good, yay.

* Not surprised there wasn't really a time estimate on future releases. Disappointed in that, but I also expected it to be the case.

* On a positive note, I'll say this (and VV, you are welcome to take this to the team if you like as I'm sure I'm not alone, here) - I do believe they worked hard on this game, and I commend their efforts. I have never personally doubted their efforts.

* My area of complaint / concern is simply with the way game handles relationships, the Pandora system's entire lack of context, and the canonization of certain events in the story that I think should have been 'optional' instead of being shoe-horned in.

We'll see where things go from here. :) Keep us posted, VV, you clearly have connections to the staff, so by all means keep us informed as things develop.
 
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Now that I think about it, it wouldn't require a radical restructure of the game for Studio FOW to make the porn feel more incorporated. The easiest way would be to rework the dating system that already exists in the bar to give you prompts on what sequences you want to unlock (like with Lily it'd be "Want to critique my ceiling?" (Vanilla Unlock), "What do you do in the lab?" (Monster Unlock), etc.) and all the other scenes you didn't pick can be PP unlocks.

Edit: also ignoring any announcements or official replies from the past day. Trust nothing until April 1st is over, folks.
 
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Seems like im one of few who actually enjoyed this game T_T
I enjoyed it too, at first the Story started out kinda cringey but it went mostly alright and well, Ground combat is okay-ish, needs a bit more to it which will prob come with the upgrading and more characters, hopefully.

Space Combat was rather bare bones but on the more good site of things, not too boring (most of the times), not too hard or easy, but that too needs a bit more overall, more upgrades, more this and that but it's playable.

Sex scenes are kinda eh but alright, I would wish for more build up for the Pandora System, as with anything else needs more, and now that they talked about the romance stuff, and want to hire more Animators etc, and looking at the earlier List from that person that showed the not used voice files, and them saying there will be a lot more. Just hope there is more context and interaction. And I dont insert myself or something of the likes to be ''NTR'd or Cucked'', I just want to see hot girls getting fucked and fap to that really, THO I dont really care about tentacle stuff, that's boring as hell.
 
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Now that I think about it, it wouldn't require a radical restructure of the game for Studio FOW to make the porn feel more incorporated. The easiest way would be to rework the dating system that already exists in the bar to give you prompts on what sequences you want to unlock (like with Lily it'd be "Want to critique my ceiling?" (Vanilla Unlock), "What do you do in the lab?" (Monster Unlock), etc.) and all the other scenes you didn't pick can be PP unlocks.

Edit: also ignoring any announcements or official replies from the past day. Trust nothing until April 1st is over, folks.
They could add a line or two from wiafus before the sex scene in Pandora. That would be at least some improvement for Pandora.
 
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anyone have an issue where their computer crashes no matter what about 8 minutes in? pc temps are fine, no errors; computer cold reboots
 

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anyone have an issue where their computer crashes no matter what about 8 minutes in? pc temps are fine, no errors; computer cold reboots
Generally when a system reboots itself unexpectedly under load like you're describing without a blue screen crash, it indicates a lack of power delivery (failing power supply, or under-equipped power supply or UPS). Could also be a failing mainboard as well, but more often it's a power supply. Just somewhere to start for you.
 

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rip it is getting some age on it. cheers
Ya that's a good place to start, at least. :) And the good thing about replacing a PSU is it's generally not that hard, and as parts go in a generic system, it's not the most expensive, either.

A good test also is to play some of your other games that are really hard on the system and see if you get the same behavior. If so, that's a good indication it's a failing PSU.
 

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Subverse made around 2mil USD on their kickstarter, at the current price point of 30 dollars they would need to sell 66,666 copies to make that back, and they have already sold over 25,000 based on top concurrent users on Steam.


As much as I like both HydraFX and Pew, neither of them are pushing technical or content envelopes.

Their content looks the way it does because they are using Blender, which is naturally better at lighting and skin texture rendering then SFM, because that it what it was made for. That isn't on them, its on the software they are using.

Likewise, the content of their animations tends to be very slow, basic, sex scenes, lacking any real intensity compared to something like FOW's SFM movies, or Drills3D's videos, because Blender isn't very good at that. Even hydraFX's longer videos, like that 2B/9S one are just a few very basic, slow, low movement, loops stitched together.

NYL is pushing Blender harder on a technical level. But even then, you compare some of the newer Blender work

To one of his older SFM animations

And while the Blender animation has better lighting/texture rendering... the SFM animation actually shows far more technical development in terms of speed, and nuance of movements, then the Blender one does. This is becuase Blender really isn't good at that sort of thing, hence why you rarely if ever see longer, 30 minute long, blender animations.
lol, no. Not even. Try stripping the fetish goggles off. Blender is as good or bad as the rig is manipulated, and that goes for SFM as well. Neither is magic bullet. Speaking of rigs, Source's limit of four impulses per vertex is also hard

The fact you're even mentioning SMS/Drill isn't helping because once you know he's just using sped up tweening interpolation to make large movements, the "realism" wears right off and isn't even all that realistic (you schlick someone's clitoris that fast during the start of foreplay and she'll tear your eyes out, not moan in the throes of absolute ecstasy), never mind a couple of animation swipes are sourced from literal pedophile content for the SHOCK! CONTROVERSY! EDGE! You know kinda like FOW did to drum up all that noise. Furthermore, Rape isn't intenstity, it's just rape; nevermind the part where your premise is "super intense super intensity" but mean while the not SFM and totally UE4 with hyper generic lighting are also as you say

" very slow, basic, sex scenes, lacking any real intensity compared to something like FOW's SFM movies"

You're gonna have to pick one. Either FOW's animations in this game are not up to your standards as you posited them to be, or your standards are very dependent on what kind of argument you're trying to have.

Meanwhile back at the subject a hand, 22 bux for 14 second non branching "slow basic sex scene" animations is... dubious. At best. Which falls squarely in line with FOW's reputation, which they earned over a period of seven years with consistent behavior. Currently, that behavior doesn't seem to have changed very much despite the new youtube friendly marketing.
 
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lol, just got done reading through it. My quick reaction -

* I'm happy that they were pleased with their sales volume, means they will be able to hire some more folks and that's a good thing.

* I'm not convinced the end-state of the romance stuff and Pandora is going to be for me, but as I stated before, I'm in a holding pattern, and I'll absolutely give it a fair look as they release updates.

* More onboard interactions are good, yay.

* Not surprised there wasn't really a time estimate on future releases. Disappointed in that, but I also expected it to be the case.

* On a positive note, I'll say this (and VV, you are welcome to take this to the team if you like as I'm sure I'm not alone, here) - I do believe they worked hard on this game, and I commend their efforts. I have never personally doubted their efforts.

* My area of complaint / concern is simply with the way game handles relationships, the Pandora system's entire lack of context, and the canonization of certain events in the story that I think should have been 'optional' instead of being shoe-horned in.

We'll see where things go from here. :) Keep us posted, VV, you clearly have connections to the staff, so by all means keep us informed as things develop.
Connections to the staff is a bit of a reach lol, I'm just on the discord where they happen to speak frequently, so its pretty easy to quote their words.

As for the time estimate, as I've said numerous times, FOW doesn't really like giving dates til they're sure (and I'm sure this delay on streemster is very much reinforcing that mindset in their heads).

On my own thoughts, I'm happy to see with Elaisha coming next for some chocolate-y goodness. Can't wait to hear the kind of dialogue an ex-pornstar will bring onboard.

Also that VR tease that uhh...sure sounds promising for that 'interactivity' so many people are itching for :p
 

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lol, no. Not even. Try stripping the fetish goggles off. Blender is as good or bad as the rig is manipulated, and that goes for SFM as well. Neither is magic bullet. Speaking of rigs, Source's limit of four impulses per vertex is also hard

The fact you're even mentioning SMS/Drill isn't helping because once you know he's just using sped up tweening interpolation to make large movements, the "realism" wears right off and isn't even all that realistic (you schlick someone's clitoris that fast during the start of foreplay and she'll tear your eyes out, not moan in the throes of absolute ecstasy), never mind a couple of animation swipes are sourced from literal pedophile content for the SHOCK! CONTROVERSY! EDGE! You know kinda like FOW did to drum up all that noise. Furthermore, Rape isn't intenstity, it's just rape; nevermind the part where your premise is "super intense super intensity" but mean while the not SFM and totally UE4 with hyper generic lighting are also as you say

" very slow, basic, sex scenes, lacking any real intensity compared to something like FOW's SFM movies"

You're gonna have to pick one. Either FOW's animations in this game are not up to your standards as you posited them to be, or your standards are very dependent on what kind of argument you're trying to have.

Meanwhile back at the subject a hand, 22 bux for 14 second non branching "slow basic sex scene" animations is... dubious. At best. Which falls squarely in line with FOW's reputation, which they earned over a period of seven years with consistent behavior. Currently, that behavior doesn't seem to have changed very much despite the new youtube friendly marketing.
Not 100% sure what this was all about, but feel the need to address that last bit. You're paying for an entire game. Whether the initial 0.1 didn't please you in its sex scenes offered isn't really something to say 'see its not worth it'. You really have to wait for a finished product to make a proper judgement. If you buy in now, you're saying 'I'm getting in now, not just cuz its cheaper, but because I believe the end product is worth, and I want to voice my feedback to help aid in its development'. Cuz whether its on discord or on steam reviews and forums, its being read.
 

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On my own thoughts, I'm happy to see with Elaisha coming next for some chocolate-y goodness. Can't wait to hear the kind of dialogue an ex-pornstar will bring onboard.
I always liked Elaisha's rendering and I remember some of the devs stating that she's on the submissive side, which I like, although not too crazy about the porn star past, lol. Are any of these girls going to be actual waifus, or all super sluts, lol. (I intend that somewhat rhetorical, as I do think some will be a bit more straight-laced like Celestina, or 'maybe' Fortune...?)

Also that VR tease that uhh...sure sounds promising for that 'interactivity' so many people are itching for
Maybe - I'm not into VR and don't have VR equipment, so it won't mean anything to me, but for those that do, I imagine it'll be a positive.
 

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I always liked Elaisha's rendering and I remember some of the devs stating that she's on the submissive side, which I like, although not too crazy about the porn star past, lol. Are any of these girls going to be actual waifus, or all super sluts, lol. (I intend that somewhat rhetorical, as I do think some will be a bit more straight-laced like Celestina, or 'maybe' Fortune...?)



Maybe - I'm not into VR and don't have VR equipment, so it won't mean anything to me, but for those that do, I imagine it'll be a positive.
I mean if you want purity and chastity, look to the Imperium xD
 

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You really have to wait for a finished product to make a proper judgement
Opinions do not require factual things or final states, hence why they are opinions.

It's generally more conducive to civilized conversation to wait until such things are present, but they aren't required.

to whit:
because I believe the end product is worth
You were saying something about proper viewing and weighting of value?

Again, as above, you can't have your cake and eat it too; either you wait and pay extra for what you can get for free on r34 because you think or want FOW to succeed for completely nonfactual reasons, or you don't do those things because you have viewed FOW's history of "interesting takes" and "for the luls" (except entirely not) behavior.

I'm not advocating EITHER of those things. What I am advocating is there is a repeated and public pattern of behavior, and any value judgements should be made accordingly, and also made by and with viewing other products of similar vein and genre.

"One time FOW made my peepee hard" isn't really an objective value I'm going to be buying a >game< for, all subject matter and forum premise aside.
 
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