Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[Readerf2b]

How can it be representative when majority of the girls not there, and the scenes included in Pandora is more or less a show case of what to follow. The dating sytems, the girls loyality missions etc not even in the game yet. And that's where we been told the meat on the bones will be.

So fow are idiots. Ok, no surprise that idiots failed to make a decent porn game. No surprise that idiots support other idiots no matter what.

 

[Joshua Tree]

So fow are idiots. Ok, no surprise that idiots failed to make a decent porn game. No surprise that idiots support other idiots no matter what.

You do know the concept of early access do you?

 

[NBV]

NBV So where was In fault for saying the introduction sex scenes was longer? People want more of the yellow premium scenes than the other ones. People really need a reality check on how long scenes can end up or not when looking at total number of scenes the game will end up with. Just look at how many scenes they planned to release for the next content update. In addition to story content.

What? You said the introduction sex scenes were longer than the Pandora (Mantic) ones, I'm telling that you're wrong. Are you that incapable of accepting that you could be wrong and that not everyone is being unreasonable that we must go in circles over this? It's not my or anyone else's fault you said something wrong.

Maybe people want quality over quantity? The biggest complaint was the scenes all being 7 to 30 second loops at best. What did FOW do? Announce that they were going to release 20 more, not addressing whether or not they'd be longer. They're clearly missing the mark here. Does 20 more scenes really matter if 15 of them are 15 second looks again?

 

[Joshua Tree]

What? You said the introduction sex scenes were longer than the Pandora (Mantic) ones, I'm telling that you're wrong. Are you that incapable of accepting that you could be wrong and that not everyone is being unreasonable that we must go in circles over this? It's not my or anyone else's fault you said something wrong.

Maybe people want quality over quantity? The biggest complaint was the scenes all being 7 to 30 second loops at best. What did FOW do? Announce that they were going to release 20 more, not addressing whether or not they'd be longer. They're clearly missing the mark here. Does 20 more scenes really matter if 15 of them are 15 second looks again?

Where did you get 20 more from? Their last update they said they would be releasing 50+ new scenes for Pandora.

 

[Readerf2b]

50+ new scenes for Pandora.

Better release them on pornhub straightaway. At least it wouldn't take several hours of mediocre to bad gameplay.

 

[NBV]

Where did you get 20 more from? Their last update they said they would be releasing 50+ new scenes for Pandora.

Point is that quality should be more important than quality. We do not know if they'll continue being 7 to 30 second long loops, because they refuse to address that part of criticism. 50 is a lot, but if they're all just glorified webm loops? What if 20 of them are only 30 seconds long? What if the rest range between 10 and 20 seconds of loop length? Is that really what some of that million dollar funding is going towards? What if 10 of those 50 scenes are only 7 seconds long?

They have done nothing to address if they plan to improve on that part of the critic. Announcing MORE stuff that people are already heavily critical over doesn't just make things better.

 

[Zeddy]

A lot of this thread is subjective complaints. This game isn't hurting anyone. The worst it's doing is disappointing some people and there are worse things in the games industry to be upset about. People here are talking in circles and trying to catch each other out more than having an actual discussion. You all should take a moment to self reflect.

No surprise that idiots support other idiots no matter what.

Throwing around personal insults never makes the one giving them look good.

 

[Readerf2b]

Throwing around personal insults never makes the one giving them look good.

If you are trying to be a voice of reason you are clearly on the wrong internet page.

A lot of this thread is subjective complaints. This game isn't hurting anyone. The worst it's doing is disappointing some people and there are worse things in the games industry to be upset about.

Making bad, but profitable games is hurting the playerbase, because next time industry will drop the quality even lower. We already have ton of problems like patreon milking farms, because people blindly supported games in years of stagnation.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Point is that quality should be more important than quality. We do not know if they'll continue being 7 to 30 second long loops, because they refuse to address that part of criticism. 50 is a lot, but if they're all just glorified webm loops? What if 20 of them are only 30 seconds long? What if the rest range between 10 and 20 seconds of loop length? Is that really what some of that million dollar funding is going towards? What if 10 of those 50 scenes are only 7 seconds long?

They have done nothing to address if they plan to improve on that part of the critic. Announcing MORE stuff that people are already heavily critical over doesn't just make things better.

Current content is like 26 scenes in Pandora, where of 6 is "premium".. 3 of these again is the recruitment scenes that you get as part of the story, and is sex scenes you get to see regardless of Pandora or not. Adding 50+ new scenes just to Pandora in addition to the other story stuff, is more than double down twice over on content to the current game.

Oh and please stop with the million funding bullcrap already. Running a game studio have expenses. People doesn't work for a pat on the shoulder. Try start a game studio, hire 12 people and see how much that end up cost you over a period of 2 years along with other running costs you might have.

 

[Danlorn]

I agree on most of what you said. But you are missing the point here...

I agree that not everything is NTR. But we do not have terms and tags for the things we are talking about. So we are using "NTR" as a general term here.
If something makes the player feel jealous, cucked, betrayed etc ... then we just say NTR.
We are not strictly talking about netorare.

As for you missing the point. You are totally off the mark with that loyalty quest stuff.
Nobody cares about the female charaters past. They could have fucked everything that moves, nobody cares.
But the moment they are on the team with the MC, they should stop fucking around, regardless of loyalty quests.
At least optionally.

Like you said, it would be great if there was the a tick option to disable the girls from fucking around at present.
Not fucking others characters, not fucking any monsters/xenos etc ...
The girls not talking about how they fucked something on the ship, no dialog that reflects that etc ...

It would still be horrible if we have to play up to the girls loyalty quest, in order for them to stop fucking others/xenos.
And if we do not do their loyalty quests, they fuck around and talk about it.... this is sad and depressing
Thats like getting sloppy seconds...
This is exactly what most of do not want from the game and want it to be optional.

If the girls are still fucking around, this will just make us dislike them. This will change our perception of them. They will be dead to us and we will have no interest towards them, or care about them.

Man, have you considered sending your complaints to devs? I don't think they read this thread, so it would make more sense to post it maybe on their steam forum or in their discord... The game is still in early stages of development, so maybe SFOW will work on making NTR-ish stuff REALLY avoidable, if they receive more messages with constructive critisism and complaints like yours, who knows (>_>)

 

[Joshua Tree]

Man, have you considered sending your complaints to devs? I don't think they read this thread, so it would make more sense to post it maybe on their steam forum or in their discord... The game is still in early stages of development, so maybe SFOW will work on making NTR-ish stuff REALLY avoidable, if they receive more messages with constructive critisism and complaints like yours, who knows (>_>)

Because the topic NEVER been brought up before on the steam forum and never been responded too right? I think their current stance is more like "play the game, or eat a bag of dicks"... They make the game, and then its up to people if they want to play it or not, just as with every other game or assorted entertainment people can consume out there. They have their own site you can post on as well.

 

[Readerf2b]

Man, have you considered sending your complaints to devs? I don't think they read this thread, so it would make more sense to post it maybe on their steam forum or in their discord... The game is still in early stages of development, so maybe SFOW will work on making NTR-ish stuff REALLY avoidable, if they receive more messages with constructive critisism and complaints like yours, who knows (>_>)

Yeah, probably they better cut out all sex out of the game, to make sure no one feels cucked. There are probably wirdoes who associete themseves with that mechanic dude we saved.

 

[magaclaawe]

I see people here are again crying about NTR because they have nothing better to do. Because of you StudioFOW already did put that horrible pandora system into the game ruining sex scenes by not connecting them to the story and characters just so your insecure feelings wont get hurt by being "cucked".

 

[UZone]

Yep, I remember people having this exact same NTR discussion months ago, not much has changed since then. It's amazing how the main criticism of Subverse in this forum went from the sex scenes being disjointed 10-second gifs that have no connection to the story, to some of those scenes being TOO CONNECTED to the story lol (the mantic scenes in Pandora that everyone says are canon NTR or whatever).

At the end of the day I feel like the elephant in the room should be called out - caring this much about some fictional, ultra-horny ladies in a hentai game being ultra horny with someone other than the fictional McPantsFace MC is unreasonable. The fact is that Subverse already gives you the choice to avoid watching whatever content you don't like (albeit in the most boring and rudimentary way possible). Let people enjoy the content in their game and keep real-life concepts like "that girl cheated on me with X" out of it.

 

[ronadan]

Let people enjoy the content in their game and keep real-life concepts like "that girl cheated on me with X" out of it.

well unfortunately NTR and cheating are big, problematic subjects around here. many threads got struck by banhammer of mods because of offtopic talks and guess what? almost always there was an argument about NTR/cheating. there's for sure too much sensitivity about something you can avoid. I even remember someone posted a negative review about a game with similar features (avoidable NTR, could just turn it off at the start) and his reasoning was "he was missing out on content because he didn't like NTR". like dude, it's not like that's the only porn game in existence. if you don't like it, leave it to its fans. it's not like porn is your real life
I personally think if someone's familiar with studio Fow's work, themes like these are to be expected. they created some pretty hardcore videos. it's their style and their appeal, their "win condition". it's like watching their many rape-themed videos and then bombard them with comments like "I hate rape. this is wrong" or "why couldn't you make a vanilla porn video?"

 

[j4yj4m]

I see people here are again crying about NTR because they have nothing better to do. Because of you StudioFOW already did put that horrible pandora system into the game ruining sex scenes by not connecting them to the story and characters just so your insecure feelings wont get hurt by being "cucked".

Well, SFOW obviously didn't do it because some people complained, but because they wanted to tap into that huge playerbase to get additional revenue. You either write a game that appeals to the mainstream or you don't. In this case your complaint should really be directed at SOFW and not at those who don't like a certain kind of content. I think we agree that nobody would expect people to pay for a game they don't like.

Then again, the main problem seems to be that SOFW simply didn't bother to implement these things well. Most of this could have been avoided quite easily.

 

[xemurai]

i downloaded the full archive and it just brings up steam? how do i get it to play, anyone know?

 

[Joshua Tree]

i downloaded the full archive and it just brings up steam? how do i get it to play, anyone know?

Nope, never been brought up in this thread before.... Or maybe... that search feature up there can help you, or maybe the OP can too..

 

[xemurai]

Nope, never been brought up in this thread before.... Or maybe... that search feature up there can help you, or maybe the OP can too..

is that sarcasm? xD i genuinely don't know and i tried looking but i couldn't seem to find it. def would love a solution bc i waited hours to download it (':

 

[xemurai]

nvm i found the cracked files LOL