stekegkin

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That's bullshit. I've encountered plenty of games on Steam, including this one, where the devs deleted negative reviews to help hype their game. I've read reviews that offered constructive criticism without any vitriol that got removed for no good reason.

I also happen to be a former supporter of Studio FoW when they were on Patreon. I supported them for 4 years. There were plenty of times when DarkCrow deleted comments or flat out attacked and insulted supporters for offering constructive criticism. There were entire flame wars between supporters who just wanted to express their opinions and feedback versus trolls and Studio FoW's diehard asskissers who would insult and gang up on other supporters just because they weren't mutually obsessed with bestiality. I was also around for the Scarlet Nights debacle when DarkCrow intentionally put out a misleading trailer lying about the content of SN ep1 and then boldly insulted and trashtalked his own supporters for calling him out on it.
Just a heads up, but developers cannot simply "delete bad reviews" to "help hype" their game on Steam. The only thing developers can do is submit a report for Steam to take a look at said review(s) and decide if they were made maliciously or were, in fact, actual reviews (aka not review bombs, or people leaving blatantly dumb reviews meant to drag the score down). They're subject to the exact same system other users are: they can report them, they cannot delete or edit user reviews.

If reviews were removed, it was because Steam deemed them as bad faith reviews. That's not on the developers.

In regards to the rest, go off king.

Edit: Went ahead and grabbed this directly from steams partner FAQ in regards to this particular issue incase you were curious:

Q. I'm a developer. Can I delete reviews of my product?
A. Not directly. If you find abusive reviews, you can flag them. The review will continue to be listed on your store page until a moderator deletes the review or removes the flag.
 
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Enigmanic

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Just a heads up, but developers cannot simply "delete bad reviews" to "help hype" their game on Steam. The only thing developers can do is submit a report for Steam to take a look at said review(s) and decide if they were made maliciously or were, in fact, actual reviews (aka not review bombs, or people leaving blatantly dumb reviews meant to drag the score down). They're subject to the exact same system other users are: they can report them, they cannot delete or edit user reviews.

If reviews were removed, it was because Steam deemed them as bad faith reviews. That's not on the developers.

In regards to the rest, go off king.

Edit: Went ahead and grabbed this directly from steams partner FAQ in regards to this particular issue incase you were curious:

Q. I'm a developer. Can I delete reviews of my product?
A. Not directly. If you find abusive reviews, you can flag them. The review will continue to be listed on your store page until a moderator deletes the review or removes the flag.
Fair enough. But then again, I suppose no moderator ever showed unfair bias for a dev..
 

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I think the game structure is fixed when the first version come out, which means a lot of things cant changed be just do some "updates", for example the "no free cam on sex scene", the develop team just have no plan to do that system at beginning.

My opinion on this game:
1. I'm willing to buy this game for $20 or $30 when they finally finished, which is the similar price to those Japan ADV games, but it is English so at least I can understand what the character talk about, plus some high resolution porn gif(which Japan games don't have)

2. I don't know how to comment on those "million spending but shit game" saying, cause we don't have a "standard" on porn game. Like if people want compare open world game they can use GTAV as a standard, because GTAV is a very good game and we know how much they spending on it. For porn game we just don't have a good one I guess? And we also don't know how much other company's spending.

3. I was hoping Studio Fow can make a good game when they announced, cause this field is pretty much empty, only few Japan companies keeps doing that, if Studio Fow succeeded, maybe more people would join this area and produce more game. Apparently Studio Fow failed, so I can only put my hope on other teams and wish they can produce a nice one.
 

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That's bullshit. I've encountered plenty of games on Steam, including this one, where the devs deleted negative reviews to help hype their game. I've read reviews that offered constructive criticism without any vitriol that got removed for no good reason.

I also happen to be a former supporter of Studio FoW when they were on Patreon. I supported them for 4 years. There were plenty of times when DarkCrow deleted comments or flat out attacked and insulted supporters for offering constructive criticism. There were entire flame wars between supporters who just wanted to express their opinions and feedback versus trolls and Studio FoW's diehard asskissers who would insult and gang up on other supporters just because they weren't mutually obsessed with bestiality. I was also around for the Scarlet Nights debacle when DarkCrow intentionally put out a misleading trailer lying about the content of SN ep1 and then boldly insulted and trashtalked his own supporters for calling him out on it.
Devs can't delete reviews. That is why steam need to interfer when someone start review bomb games and such. Such as the case when the Chinese went apeshit on Subverse some time back. And if threads and posts get deleted due to Flamewars.. well that is natural. Such is against the steam guidelines to start with.
 

Joshua Tree

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Fair enough. But then again, I suppose no moderator ever showed unfair bias for a dev..
It's not like games on steam got their own unique steam moderators only, and that is that. Therre is a lot of steam moderators that operate across the platform and moderate threads based on the steam guidelines. More than often show up when someone report a post, complain about a poster and such. You saying all of these are biased?
 

Joshua Tree

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I think the game structure is fixed when the first version come out, which means a lot of things cant changed be just do some "updates", for example the "no free cam on sex scene", the develop team just have no plan to do that system at beginning.

My opinion on this game:
1. I'm willing to buy this game for $20 or $30 when they finally finished, which is the similar price to those Japan ADV games, but it is English so at least I can understand what the character talk about, plus some high resolution porn gif(which Japan games don't have)
It been stated the price of the game will go up when the game is completed. So in reality picking it up now will be the cheapest option for a good while.
 

Enigmanic

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It's not like games on steam got their own unique steam moderators only, and that is that. Therre is a lot of steam moderators that operate across the platform and moderate threads based on the steam guidelines. More than often show up when someone report a post, complain about a poster and such. You saying all of these are biased?
Again, fair points. But the system isn't perfect and some people do have bias. If someone is a fan of a certain dev or genre it's possible their judgement can be colored to a degree. Also, what checks are in place to deal with the opposite of a review bomb? How about when a game gets several rave reviews despite the game being a broken buggy mess? It's not a perfect system. As I've stated before, when it comes to Studio FoW specifically I know how scummy and toxic they can be. And I have seen negative reviews on games that ended up being removed unfairly.

Aside from Steam, devs have been known to shun criticism. Many adult game makers have Discord servers. I have been in several where the dev became abusive and confrontational about constructive criticism. It's one reason I enjoy using this site to discuss the games without fear of being ganged up on or having my comments deleted just for providing honest albeit negative feedback.
 

Joshua Tree

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Again, fair points. But the system isn't perfect and some people do have bias. If someone is a fan of a certain dev or genre it's possible their judgement can be colored to a degree. Also, what checks are in place to deal with the opposite of a review bomb? How about when a game gets several rave reviews despite the game being a broken buggy mess? It's not a perfect system. As I've stated before, when it comes to Studio FoW specifically I know how scummy and toxic they can be. And I have seen negative reviews on games that ended up being removed unfairly.

Aside from Steam, devs have been known to shun criticism. Many adult game makers have Discord servers. I have been in several where the dev became abusive and confrontational about constructive criticism. It's one reason I enjoy using this site to discuss the games without fear of being ganged up on or having my comments deleted just for providing honest albeit negative feedback.
There been cases in the past of devs that tried to "boost" their game, and got slapped hard by Steam. There is checks in place.
If you get a ban, or disagreement with a moderator and you feel it's unjust you can kick it up in the system and make a complaint. You will never find yourself in a situation where you have to just deal with the moderator that banned you, gave you a warning etc.




If a game on steam end up get a unnatural huge negative or postive reviews Steam will look into it. Reviews doesn't get deleted per see, but they get hidden. You as a user can select if you want to view these though. These reviews end up not counting towards the game's stats in any way though. Subverse have had several periods of "off topic" reviews, also known as review bombing. At large at the hands of Chinese people, of which at some degree keep going on...
 

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Everytime there is an update, the same kind of maggots keep crawl out of the woodwork and repeat the same crap over and over. Why not just stay away if you don't like the game?

If you have valid feedback and critic, go to the steam forums and post in the actual thread for it. People that get posts/threads deleted doesn't do so because they don't listen to critic or feedback, they do so because they can't bloody act their age, break steam forum guidelines and what not.
You'll heave to deal, sweatie.
 

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A "sweatie" is someone who is delusional enough to think people shouldn't be able to criticise the game here simply because a steam forum for this game exists. Does this rule also apply to every other game on f95 that has a steam forum or only to this one?
Seeing as you have no problem calling the people who talk about the game "maggots" IN THE THREAD ABOUT THE GAME IN QUESTION I'm betting you have a severe case of hypocrisy, sweatie.
 
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A "sweatie" is someone who is delusional enough to think people shouldn't be able to criticise the game here simply because a steam forum for this game exists. Does this rule also apply to every other game on f95 that has a steam forum or only to this one?
Seeing as you have no problem calling the people who talk about the game "maggots" IN THE THREAD ABOUT THE GAME IN QUESTION I'm betting you have a severe case of hypocrisy, sweatie.
I said feeback and critics on this forum doesn't help any. If you want it to have any impact on the game you need to do it where it actually does, right? Sweetie...
 
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I said feeback and critics on this forum doesn't help any.
People here constantly post criticism and feedback for Japanese games where no way in hell will their developer look but I can't recall seeing you in any of those threads telling them that. You're lying, you just don't want to see people's "wrong" opinions about this particular game. Which is just an impotent bark because you will see people here talk about and criticise it.
 
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still no torrent link?
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People here constantly post criticism and feedback for Japanese games where no way in hell will their developer look but I can't recall seeing you in any of those threads telling them that. You're lying, you just don't want to see people's "wrong" opinions about this particular game. Which is just an impotent bark because you will see people here talk about and criticise it.
Why would I post in threads about games that doesn't interest me at all? And thanks for underline the my point.. People posting critics and feedback in threads where the devs will never look have no impact on the game what so ever. There is no right or wrong opinions about anything. Opinions, like assholes, everyone got them and they splitt down the middle. If people want to reach out to the devs with their feedback they need to stop shout into echo chambers that serve no purpose what so ever.
 
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People will say stuff on a forum because that's what it is for and no amount of calling the "maggots" will change that.
 
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