Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[DMB10]

Full save anyone?

 

[Grozar]

if this is part of the story as something that happens "in the background during the passage of time"

Well, if u read scenes description, it is.

 

[DouglasCosta]

The new Demi sex scene is kinda hot imo
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Too bad only 1 scenes. Hopefully part 2 will come out soon with lots of mantics & crew scenes.

 

[Gwedelino]

So basically the flaw it is wasn't released completed, which would make any game around here flawed then?

No, the flaw is having sex content disjointed from the storyline and used most of the time like a "bonus content".

 

[Joshua Tree]

No, the flaw is having sex content disjointed from the storyline and used most of the time like a "bonus content".

So you rather want to remove all sex content not tied to the story itself? Because it does no sense to have the number of sex scenes currently in Pandora splattered into the story with no context. And it would make no sense what so ever to try make the story fit around all these scenes, or just turn the story into a clusterfuck of one lewd scene after the other. The purpose of these random scenes is just that random events taken place around the ship.

 

[blblblblb]

How tf this game can only have 2.5 star and some random poorly made furry rpg maker games are 5 stars? ppl are crazy

 

[youmustbejoking]

if this is part of the story as something that happens "in the background during the passage of time", i don't think this game is gonna hold my interest for long lol (not a fan of ntr stuff)

now if this is just something extra that was tossed in as a bonus, cool i guess.

You're on a space ship with the biggest sluts in the galaxy and you're complaining about degeneracy aboard your ship. I'm sorry but I think you've come to the wrong place. I can recommend you some very wholesome moeges though.

 

[Gwedelino]

So you rather want to remove all sex content not tied to the story itself? Because it does no sense to have the number of sex scenes currently in Pandora splattered into the story with no context. And it would make no sense what so ever to try make the story fit around all these scenes, or just turn the story into a clusterfuck of one lewd scene after the other. The purpose of these random scenes is just that random events taken place around the ship.

It's obviously too late now, but yes, an optimal situation from the very beginning would have been the Pandora system to not even exist.

Instead you got fewer (but longer) sex scenes, all linked to the story.

That's what Studio Fow is aiming for with the final reward of their "loyalty quests" but this will be only 1 cinematic for each girl.

My preference would be to have sex scenes always linked to the story and used as rewards for completing missions or reaching some point of the main quest.

It could be like :

- You recruit the girl : 1 sex scene
- You complete a side-quest mission related to the girl : 1 sex scene
- You reach a certain point of the main quest in which the girl is important : 1 sex scene

And so at the end it looks like maybe 5 (1 - 2 minutes) sex scenes for each girl instead of a huge numbers of loops. At the end you got the same amount of sex content, but it's just concentrated on fewer scenes.

Of course you get way less diversity regarding sex content, and it will be necessary to make choice for each girl. But it could also be a good way to reinforce the personality of each girl, like :

- Lily having 3 of her 5 scenes involving Mantic.
- Ela having mostly anal content
- Killission being on top on most of her sex scenes

So on, so on...

and you conclude the game with a 5 minutes reverse Gangbang scene involving the MC and his whole harem of course.

That would be my idea of how sex content should be implemented into the game.

 

[Joshua Tree]

It's obviously too late now, but yes, an optimal situation from the very beginning would have been the Pandora system to not even exist.

Instead you got fewer (but longer) sex scenes, all linked to the story.

That's what Studio Fow is aiming for with the final reward of their "loyalty quests" but this will be only 1 cinematic for each girl.

My preference would be to have sex scenes always linked to the story and used as rewards for completing missions or reaching some point of the main quest.

It could be like :

- You recruit the girl : 1 sex scene
- You complete a side-quest mission related to the girl : 1 sex scene
- You reach a certain point of the main quest in which the girl is important : 1 sex scene

And so at the end it looks like maybe 5 (1 - 2 minutes) sex scenes for each girl instead of a huge numbers of loops. At the end you got the same amount of sex content, but it's just concentrated on fewer scenes.

Of course you get way less diversity regarding sex content, and it will be necessary to make choice for each girl. But it could also be a good way to reinforce the personality of each girl, like :

- Lily having 3 of her 5 scenes involving Mantic.
- Ela having mostly anal content
- Killission being on top on most of her sex scenes

So on, so on...

and you conclude the game with a 5 minutes reverse Gangbang scene involving the MC and his whole harem of course.

That would be my idea of how sex content should be implemented into the game.

A lot of the scenes currently in Pandora a lot of people doesn't want to watch. And they certainly wouldn't want it forced uppon them in the storymode. The same scenes is what some people expect from FOW based on their earlier work. Pandora offers you the benefit of unlock and watch additional lewd stuff based on your interest and fetish rather than get served up things you have no interest in. Imagine every lewd game and porn site you visited only served you fetish's and things you hated rather than give you a choice...

Some people approach the whole Mantic thing as they would with a hate for ntr, or whatever...

 

[Gwedelino]

A lot of the scenes currently in Pandora a lot of people doesn't want to watch. And they certainly wouldn't want it forced uppon them in the storymode. The same scenes is what some people expect from FOW based on their earlier work. Pandora offers you the benefit of unlock and watch additional lewd stuff based on your interest and fetish rather than get served up things you have no interest in. Imagine every lewd game and porn site you visited only served you fetish's and things you hated rather than give you a choice...

Some people approach the whole Mantic thing as they would with a hate for ntr, or whatever...

"Sex content should be always optional to not disturb anyone, so it's better not added directly into the story" is such a bad excuse in my point of view.

It just need the game to be advertised consequently and if people are not happy with that, then they simply don't buy the game".

Even F95 use something as simple as "genre tags" to show everyone what's in the game and it works well.

When I see tags I don't like on F95, then I don't try the game, and I'm at no point disturbed. It's marvelous !

 

[ArghDoe]

The game is cool. Maybe because I am just playing it from here, outside the kickstarter/steam drama, but I like it so far and quality wise there is a lot to enjoy.

Unrelated: Is there a way to watch the new cinematics with an old save?

 

[Joshua Tree]

"Sex content should be always optional to not disturb anyone, so it's better not added directly into the story" is such a bad excuse in my point of view.

It just need the game to be advertised consequently and if people are not happy with that, then they simply don't buy the game".

Even F95 use something as simple as "genre tags" to show everyone what's in the game and it works well.

When I see tags I don't like on F95, then I don't try the game, and I'm at no point disturbed. It's marvelous !

Lewd games is such a small niche as it is. Offer diversity and not force content uppon players, but rather give them a choice more likely to attract more people. More people buying the game, better for FOW.

Lets inject all kind of fetish's into the story that you hate and would never want to watch. How would that make you feel about the game? Just look at games on the site here that suddenly force ntr content in a game and what shitfest that turn threads into.

 

[Gwedelino]

Lewd games is such a small niche as it is. Offer diversity and not force content uppon players, but rather give them a choice more likely to attract more people. More people buying the game, better for FOW.

Lets inject all kind of fetish's into the story that you hate and would never want to watch. How would that make you feel about the game?

As I said situation would not happen to me since I wouldn't download a game which has content I dislike.

But here some easy solutions :

1) Only make vanilla content if you aim to reach a large audience. Movie makers that want to make a PG13 movie know that they can't add hard or trash content. Same thing should be applied for Subverse.

2) Using the reward system I described previously, use vanilla content as a reward for the main quest line, and use "problematic content" for side-quest.

Quick example : An optional side quest for Lily in which you aim to retrieve mantic DNA. Dialogs before starting the quest heavily implies that Lily gonna get railed by mantic if the quest is successfully done and if player does complete this quest, then his reward is indeed seeing lily getting ass blasted by the Megalodong.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

As I said situation would not happen to me since I wouldn't download a game which has content I dislike.

But here some easy solutions :

1) Only make vanilla content if you aim to reach a large audience. Movie makers that want to make a PG13 movie know that they can't add hard or trash content. Same thing should be applied for Subverse.

2) Using the reward system I described previously, use vanilla content as a reward for the main quest line, and use "problematic content" for side-quest.

Quick example : An optional side quest for Lily in which you aim to retrieve mantic DNA. Dialogs before starting the quest heavily implies that Lily gonna get railed by mantic if the quest is successfully done and if player does complete this quest, then his reward is indeed seeing lily getting ass blasted by the Megalodong.

But that would be parts of gameplay that wouldn’t get played then. Not a great approach for the developers. It’s already as optional as it can be, you can filter out the xeno scenes, and the cards are so blurred out, you can’t even see a hint of the scene before you unlock them, so no one’s scarred for life because their waifu is being independent

 

[Deleted member 324588]

The game is cool. Maybe because I am just playing it from here, outside the kickstarter/steam drama, but I like it so far and quality wise there is a lot to enjoy.

Unrelated: Is there a way to watch the new cinematics with an old save?

Use the scene viewer in the captain’s quarters, they’re generally the last parts of a chapter.


ACT 1:
- Return To Base (Demi)
- No Teabagging Today (Lily)
- Map Complete (Kili)

ACT 2:
- Galaxy Wide Gaping (Elasha)
- Taron's Ready (Taron)

 

[youmustbejoking]

But that would be parts of gameplay that wouldn’t get played then

Again this dumb argument. This is such a moronic excuse I keep people saying but it has nothing to do with the reality of video gaming. The vast majority of people who purchase video games don't even finish them, let alone go for 100%. There will ALWAYS be content in a video game which is not seen by everyone and that is a fact of life.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

Again this dumb argument. This is such a moronic excuse I keep people saying but it has nothing to do with the reality of video gaming. The vast majority of people who purchase video games don't even finish them, let alone go for 100%. There will ALWAYS be content in a video game which is not seen by everyone and that is a fact of life.

I don’t think it is, particularly when it comes to games with level systems, ideally players are gonna want to be as strong as possible, less you’re intentionally challenging yourself.

If ya need further proof, just look for how many times people ask for an indicator as to what systems they’ve cleared. They want to do everything.

 

[Gwedelino]

But that would be parts of gameplay that wouldn’t get played then. Not a great approach for the developers. It’s already as optional as it can be, you can filter out the xeno scenes, and the cards are so blurred out, you can’t even see a hint of the scene before you unlock them, so no one’s scarred for life because their waifu is being independent

Allowing the player to skip content he doesn't want to see work wells with my system too.

I'm not talking about requiring sex scenes to all show characters having a whole speech about the plot of the game while they're engaged in physical activities. It's just that those scenes need to be properly introduced A. K. A "linked to the story of the game".

I already said that for now, recruitment scenes are probably the best ones since they are rewarding the player for completing a whole series of missions beforehand.

If it was possible, I would like every sex scenes to follow the same pattern, which of courses means that sacrifices has to be made in terms of the quantity of sex scenes.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Again this dumb argument. This is such a moronic excuse I keep people saying but it has nothing to do with the reality of video gaming. The vast majority of people who purchase video games don't even finish them, let alone go for 100%. There will ALWAYS be content in a video game which is not seen by everyone and that is a fact of life.

Quite a difference between a story driven game, that lead on you a journey through the game, and a game where you can do whatever you please. It's like compare apples to oranges. There is a difference between complete a game and complet all achievements and fluff a game might have. (like gather enough points to unlock all "extra" scenes in Subverse right?, its called optional).

 

[Joshua Tree]

Allowing the player to skip content he doesn't want to see work wells with my system too.

I'm not talking about requiring sex scenes to all show characters having a whole speech about the plot of the game while they're engaged in physical activities. It's just that those scenes need to be properly introduced A. K. A "linked to the story of the game".

I already said that for now, recruitment scenes are probably the best ones since they are rewarding the player for completing a whole series of missions beforehand.

If it was possible, I would like every sex scenes to follow the same pattern, which of courses means that sacrifices has to be made in terms of the quantity of sex scenes.

Well, let us know when you got a game to showcase your system. Whatever FOW does, is their system, and we got no say in that. Your choice is if you want to play it or not though.