Unreal Engine Completed Subverse [v1.1.1] [Studio Fow]

[echo32]

Dude you don't have to be a simp to understand how to pace yourself. DEMI has about 15 scenes remaining in her Pandora slot (assuming there is no extra pages they ain't showing us). Devotion has shown to max out at 40. Therefore, whatever is left to fill has to take up those remaining points. And there are still several more mantics to unlock, as well 4 as other ladies.

Is it that difficult to think 'maybe those scenes they haven't added yet are for things we don't have yet?'

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

 

[The.xx]

So they couldn't even copypaste more scenes for the other girls like they did before? Lazy

I'm going to take a guess and say this is likely because Sova being a shortstack makes it harder for them to reuse the same animations with other characters.

They should have made one or two animations for them though, if that were the case. Not having anything new (except for Sova) after four and a half months sucks.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

There is nothing stopping them from lengthening the Pandora scroll bar and adding more boxes. Just because devotion maxes at 40 doesn't mean we can't have other ways to get more PP points, like through the current mini games. There are easy ways to remedy these non-issues that you're only GUESSING is the reason why we don't have new Pandora scenes.

I know you're ignoring me again, but I'm posting this for others to see.

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

 

[NBV]

The earliest girls only have a limited amount of scenes left to add, with 4 girls to recruit and several mantics to create. It is likely those remaining scenes feature later content. Not every scene is gonna warrant a retarget (which is not as simple as a copy/paste).

Vincent right now is looking at these 15 left over boxes, and through his own ignorance, thinks it's impossible for StudioFow to simply add more to these spaces. That is why he has this odd assumption that people asking why these girls didn't have more scenes this update. He really thinks it means StudioFow must be locked to these 15 slots and there's no way for them to go further than that.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

A little bit. After Star Citizen I have a hard time buying into early access stuff.

I certainly understand that hesitation. But unlike Star Citizen, Subverse didn't take in tons of additional funding which added a ton of feature creep problems. They also don't have a Patreon to pull in monthly income anymore like say Wild Life (which pulls in 5 digits on Patreon to this day, but still launched a Kickstarter...that failed). So their only profit comes from selling the game on Steam and GOG. Which is good motivation to actually finish the thing.

 

[NBV]

And you're just suggesting. Which is easy to do from the outside looking in. But they have the story scripted out already, so anything like additional scenes would require a devotion cap raise, and more dev time to go into scenes. So your path is unlikely to occur until a post 1.0 game, when they have a steadier flow of income.

I'm not suggesting. I'm saying it's easy to do and doesn't require new coding. It's a literal copy + paste job or changing the number to add more. You don't know what you're talking about.

If you're exclusively referring to the devotion thing, why can't we just keep having them "level up" that doesn't give combat points but continue giving PP? The point is that you're acting as though this is some impossible to change task, when it's not. What's worse is that you won't even allow people to even talk about these things within Subverse's own discord. You quickly chime in to shut them down and act as though you know more.

EDIT: There are people even in the Discord who dislike you for this behavior. Those who still enjoy the game in high regards simply don't like how often you act like a know it all. You're not a mod anymore and they never paid you to endlessly defend them to begin with. It's one thing to have a debatable opinion or argument, and it's another to do it when your usually 100% wrong on these game dev things.

 

[NBV]

So anyway, I completed Ela's main quest content. I'll give a small review of it later. Here's a quick save for people. It has most/all of the part 1 Sova update's missions completed and only the main quest to unlock Sova completed for the part 2 update. The rest of the missions are left open for you all the play with. All the girls have either 99 or around 80 PP points. Everyone but Sova has all her scenes unlocked, but you can use the 99 PP points to unlock the rest yourself. The new Mantic is unlocked too.

 

[Dragon x Hunter]

I think we really should review the product as a whole, now that I think about it, every update comes with good and bad stuff, even I bought the freaking game because I have hopes for it on the long run.

 

[NBV]

I bought the game and stuck with it because I want to hope it can improve in the long run. It was a massive disappointment at launch and has made some improvements in some areas, and some... not so improved additions in others. There will always be unreasonable people making useless comments. There will always be the ass kissers that take everything dished at them with a smile. What tends to turn reasonable people sour is the latter group being the one's who the moderators constantly side with, which means even reasonable and informed discussion on these subjects can easily get shut down and ignored. Subverse's feedback first gets curated by their mods, so a lot of it heavily depends on how unbiased a mod is about something. It's not hard to see how that can put people on edge.

 

[Mighty1]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

 

[echo32]

any news on when the update will be uploaded here?

Nope, gotta wait till someone does. Can be any minute or months.

 

[Deleted member 324588]

I'm not suggesting. I'm saying it's easy to do and doesn't require new coding. It's a literal copy + paste job or changing the number to add more. You don't know what you're talking about.

If you're exclusively referring to the devotion thing, why can't we just keep having them "level up" that doesn't give combat points but continue giving PP? The point is that you're acting as though this is some impossible to change task, when it's not. What's worse is that you won't even allow people to even talk about these things within Subverse's own discord. You quickly chime in to shut them down and act as though you know more.

EDIT: There are people even in the Discord who dislike you for this behavior. Those who still enjoy the game in high regards simply don't like how often you act like a know it all. You're not a mod anymore and they never paid you to endlessly defend them to begin with. It's one thing to have a debatable opinion or argument, and it's another to do it when your usually 100% wrong on these game dev things.

"There are people" has about as much weight as "I have been told by a friend of a friend". If I ever went too far with a member, the mods would've shut the convo down or given me a warning. Neither has occurred in a very long time.

It is not a copy/paste job. And until someone actually experienced in UE4 steps up and shows otherwise, that endless back and forth will stop. And from what I remember in this very forum, people weren't exactly kind to the repeated scenes. Now suddenly ya'll would rather have that than wait for them to come later.

I don't shut anything down, I present reasons why its unlikely. I'd gladly be wrong and it meant we got more scenes, but I'd rather not get people's hopes up and expect 100 scenes with only 40 devotion levels, guaranteeing there'd be scenes still locked in the end. FOW has stated in the past that if you do everything, you can unlock everything, which implies there's an exact amount needed to provide every gal up to 40 and get their devotion quest. Adding more scenes means adding more planets, more combat scenarios to provide the points to earn that further PP. Which is more work and more time than they have planned.

As I said before, what are you asking for is unlikely to occur now. I did not say it is impossible, it just isn't right now. Right now they need to focus on completing what they already penned from beginning to end.

 

[Grozar]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

 

[Cpt.SumTingWong]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

Maybe squid-girl

 

[NBV]

"There are people" has about as much weight as "I have been told by a friend of a friend". If I ever went too far with a member, the mods would've shut the convo down or given me a warning. Neither has occurred in a very long time.

Given the fact that you lost mod over going to far and mods have shut down past conversations with you in it, I'd say history is already there. Besides, like I said, they mods themselves tend to side with those who endlessly defend the game. Even reasonable users have been banned from their Discord server because a staff member didn't like how they talked about the game.

It is not a copy/paste job. And until someone actually experienced in UE4 steps up and shows otherwise, that endless back and forth will stop. And from what I remember in this very forum, people weren't exactly kind to the repeated scenes. Now suddenly ya'll would rather have that than wait for them to come later.

It is a copy and paste job for scenes involving Lily, Demi, and Kili. Why do you think it's different for UE4? What experience do you have with UE4 that makes you know better? What experience do you personally have with other 3D animation programs? You do know that most of these files are universal, right? You import Blender files into UE4 natively. Tell me how how more complicated it is to swap the models that share the same bones armature in UE4 for an animated scene.

And why are you acting as though us saying we'd rather have something over nothing is akin to hypocrisy?

I don't shut anything down, I present reasons why its unlikely. I'd gladly be wrong and

You do attempt to shut things down. You've it here and in the Discord. You toss out a guess and argue it as though it is a confirmed fact by the developers. You have never gladly been wrong. You have consistently been proven wrong or called out throughout the history of these threads and then refused to acknowledge them. You and the other guy have spoken about games like Honey Select, Koikatsu, or other subjects you personality had zero knowledge about and then simply moved on when people who either played or developed for them (modding) had to tell you otherwise.

it meant we got more scenes, but I'd rather not get people's hopes up and expect 100 scenes with only 40 devotion levels, guaranteeing there'd be scenes still locked in the end. FOW has stated in the past that if you do everything, you can unlock everything, which implies there's an exact amount needed to provide every gal up to 40 and get their devotion quest.

That's a hard guess at best. Them saying you would be able to unlock every scene just means they're going to make sure players won't be able to complete the game with content not unlockable. You have to be intentionally disingenuous to hold a stance that they meant there would only be an exact amount of PP points to align with each girl's maximum devotion quest level.

Adding more scenes means adding more planets, more combat scenarios to provide the points to earn that further PP. Which is more work and more time than they have planned.

You're kidding, right? Adding more ground and space combat is not a lot of work. The space combat is just them choosing different waves to spawn at you.

 

[NBV]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

We don't know anything yet. The ending of the current update shows the Huntress tailing us with a few allied ships. People think it will be her for that reason.

 

[Deleted member 3600196]

Dont mind me, just waiting for 0.5.0 update links to be up.

 

[Gwedelino]

I'm probably just gonna pass for this one, she's the least interesting girls to me.

Could be different if they added scenes for others characters in this update, but I guess I'm unlucky this time.

 

[Danlorn]

So do we know which girl will be in the next update?

Most likely it's Fortune.

Maybe squid-girl

Nah mate, they be keeping the most delicious ones for later updates...

 

[Lurker]

Didn't expect much from the Sova-Update so the lack of scenes and generally content doesn't really surprise me.

However, the screeching of some people every single update is extremely annoying. Can't you just wait until 1.0 is released and then pass judgement?
Just to make a point from where I'm coming from: They "might" (pretty sure that's the devs-team train of thought right now, I wouldn't do it any different) just try and rush the introduction of every Subverse-girl and get through the story as quickly as possible, collecting first feedbacks along the way on which "gallery"-system works for the users and which doesn't (see the 3D-rotation-scene). That way they can focus on the lewd stuff and it's implementation at the end/before release. And even then they can update stuff, no big deal and it reduces repeated work-loadout.

I would assume it's something along those lines - It would at least make more sense than just assuming "devs lazy hurr durr", especially with comments where they are doomed if they copy/paste scenes and doomed if they don't. Calm down a bit. I get the frustration, really I do, but man the lot of you keep acting like spoiled little children.
Just hold your pitchforks in check until release because that's the product they are officially selling by then.

And no, I'm not defending anything - If that's what you got out of this you lack reading-comprehension. Maybe you should get away from Twitter for some time and get back to reality. You're insane.

Cheers!