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A couple of points expanding on the plot. It's kind of deliberately vague, but this is how I interpreted it:

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Also, as a note for SQDT's other games:
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And a final point, regarding the DLC/Expansion's plot:
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Thank you for your clear explanation. No worry about the Succubus Quest spoiler, I watched (absolute chad) playing it on YouTube with pride.

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A couple of points expanding on the plot. It's kind of deliberately vague, but this is how I interpreted it:

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Also, as a note for SQDT's other games:
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And a final point, regarding the DLC/Expansion's plot:
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Actually, you've definitely summarised that way better than me.

I know nothing about SQ, I've consistently failed to find a functioning, translated version of the game, I'm afraid. Maybe I'm just incompetent.
 

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Overall, I would like an opinion (or two). Do you considered that this game has a happy ending?
Kind of...neutral? Due to some of the more vague issues, either the true protagonist was kind of a jerk and got what was coming to him, or had suffered a fate worse than death and finally got granted a mercy. So in that regard, it was a good end? But it's kind of hard to see what the actual consequences of the whole thing were, since in practice, "it was all a dream", and we see that a lot of the people who died, didn't really, but at the same time, if the other protagonists were all real people with real lives too, there's potentially a lot of tragedy there. But the game doesn't really invite us to think too hard about that, and the idea of death as just another phase of infinity could be seen as sort of comforting? Yeah, we're getting existential in our H-games here. o_O

And then there's the whole question of what "death" even means...

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As for SQ, I did try just out of sort of "practice" purposes to start working on a translation of that as well between finishing the SA translation and awaiting the release of the expansion, but the problem (and probably the reason nobody else has translated it either) is that there appear to be some pretty severe technical limitations. It uses a very old version of RPGMaker as a base engine, that does some screwy things when trying to change from one language to another.
 
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ggjohnson4256

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LOL, yeah, you know the motto of us gamer. Come for hentai, stay for the story (and the world-building). Literally the motto since Monster Girl Quest came out in the 2010s. Since this is an H-game, I don't have friend to talk about (or comfortable enough to)

Thank you for answering to my question. As a H-gamer and a normal gamer, I do get absorb into the story a lot.

If anyone here like to enter a Rabbit Hole then let me introduce you to Blacksouls and Blacksouls 2
 

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I played the game again and did a bit of comparison and reading the story, between the line and the whole nine yards.

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Click below to go down the rabbit hole, dear reader and men of cultures.

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One more thing:
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Whew, here I am, being super serious about an H-game. Thank you for reading and have a great nut-busting experience.
 
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The creators put out back in September, and I'm not sure if all the info was mentioned in this thread:
  • An English translation of the DLC is planned for release sometime in October or November
  • There'll be another game, Succubus Academia 2, slated for release in 2023
  • There'll be a preview of the battle system for Succubus Academia 2 released in December. The winner of the popularity poll will make an appearance in the preview (The popularity poll was conducted and Mayu emerged as the winner, so presumably she'll be in the preview)
 

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The creators put out back in September, and I'm not sure if all the info was mentioned in this thread:
  • An English translation of the DLC is planned for release sometime in October or November
  • There'll be another game, Succubus Academia 2, slated for release in 2023
  • There'll be a preview of the battle system for Succubus Academia 2 released in December. The winner of the popularity poll will make an appearance in the preview (The popularity poll was conducted and Mayu emerged as the winner, so presumably she'll be in the preview)
hol up there's a Sequel?

Color me impressed.
 

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ahhhh, can't wait for DLC translation and then (hopefully) translation for the sequel when it comes out
what a great time to be alive, i love this game
 

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I think... regardless of the lore. Regardless of what the story actually is about at the end of the day.
It's all just background to have the sexual content this game has.

The story didn't come first.

The desire to have slutty girls murder a bunch of decent guys who just want to survive came first.
The game concept came first.

The story wraps around that so that the player doesn't absolutely hate the girls. Because what's a porn game where the player hates the "heroines?"

All the digging to understand the narrative at the end I feel shouldn't take away from what happens in the game. The girls are unrepentant sluts who proactively seek to murder men who have no idea what's going on.
If you're into that, the game's tailor made for you.
 
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I think... regardless of the lore. Regardless of what the story actually is about at the end of the day.
It's all just background to have the sexual content this game has.

The story didn't come first.

The desire to have slutty girls murder a bunch of decent guys who just want to survive came first.
The game concept came first.

The story wraps around that so that the player doesn't absolutely hate the girls. Because what's a porn game where the player hates the "heroines?"

All the digging to understand the narrative at the end I feel shouldn't take away from what happens in the game. The girls are unrepentant sluts who proactively seek to murder men who have no idea what's going on.
If you're into that, the game's tailor made for you.
Respect is earned, which SQDT have in abundance; disrespecting that earns contempt.

Calling the depth of the writing put into Succubus Academia (and even more importantly how it was presented in layers of acquired player knowledge) as "just background" for how that writing played a focal part of the design a LOT more than the typical loss scenarios was a major disservice - more towards your own design ethos than anything about SQDT.

Not to be as rude as you're throwing at other developers, but not everyone develops like you, where getting a single screenshot you said would be forthcoming to prove progress on your game was too much because "spoilers"; there's blurring, there's blocking, there's a number of any things that could be shown that don't need to involve story elements, story elements which you could omit as easily as you handwaved here from Succubus Academia to claim its premise as simple as you have.

No shit, at a basic point porn games are for porn. But here you're trashing the exemplary part of someone else's in a really un-cool way. A game that not only released but was officially translated, released a DLC, and is working on translation of that DLC, in the time since a certain Thread Updated: 2020-06-02.

"decent guys" "the girls are unrepentant sluts who proactively seek to murder men who have no idea what's going on" - ookay. Someone evidently didn't get the actor to the basement or the perv bathroom stalker to Hello Nurse.

This concludes Diogenes bringing both candle and mirror. :(
 

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Respect is earned, which SQDT have in abundance; disrespecting that earns contempt.

Not to be as rude as you're throwing at other developers, but not everyone develops like you, where getting a single screenshot you said would be forthcoming to prove progress on your game was too much because "spoilers"; there's blurring, there's blocking, there's a number of any things that could be shown that don't need to involve story elements, story elements which you could omit as easily as you handwaved here from Succubus Academia to claim its premise as simple as you have.
I'm a consumer as well as a creator.
I think that means I'm allowed opinions.
Do I have to have finished my game to have opinions? I don't think so.
I think... a lot of people wouldn't be able to have opinions in that case.

And also hell yeah, my story's simple, but no one cares for the story of my game. I'm making it simple. Super simple for the lack of time I have to work on it due to my job which is my priority, and the fact that it's my first game which I do everything besides the art.

Does that mean, I can't have views or design critiques of other games? I don't think so. Making a game with a different focus and different limitations percludes that.

Now to go back to your other statements.
Calling the depth of the writing put into Succubus Academia (and even more importantly how it was presented in layers of acquired player knowledge) as "just background" for how that writing played a focal part of the design a LOT more than the typical loss scenarios was a major disservice - more towards your own design ethos than anything about SQDT.
Because it is.

The direct execution of the narrative is how people experience the plot. If you want to dig in and get deeper, you can because the writers put in effort there. Get that post-game info, and piece it together.
EDIT: And I wasn't criticizing the presentation and cohesion of the game. That part of the game is objectively amazing.

But what I said wasn't wrong.
"All the digging to understand the narrative at the end I feel shouldn't take away from what happens in the game. The girls are unrepentant sluts who proactively seek to murder men who have no idea what's going on."
No shit, at a basic point porn games are for porn. But here you're trashing the exemplary part of someone else's in a really un-cool way.
Trashing? My opinion is negative, but I'm not putting the devs down. I'm not mocking their efforts.
The language I'm using isn't forceful or overbearing.
That's not trashing. That's having a negative opinion.
"decent guys" "the girls are unrepentant sluts who proactively seek to murder men who have no idea what's going on" - ookay. Someone evidently didn't get the actor to the basement or the perv bathroom stalker to Hello Nurse.
Yeah I tuned out by that point. Don't think I finished the game in its entirety actually.

But yes. First MC was just a regular dude. Grew up from the age of 0 to a family that loved him, had a childhood friend, and no knowledge about succubi or whatever only to be randomly sent to an alternate universe where he had to watch his childhood friend fuck another guy to death, and ultimately share in that same fate. This is the direct plot, which shouldn't be forgotten in the miasma of reasoning or wtv the game eventually takes to make you not hate the girls or circumstances in my opinion.
And I'll even give it to you, if some of the other dudes might have some shit in their lives.
But death sentence tho? To those girls? Nah.

Especially with how it's presented in the game.
They're player characters who just want to escape from a hellworld while generally supporting each other.
 
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I really do have to apologize for having to bark and shit in public, but if that's what it took to get a point across about manners then it might have been needed; I did say Diogenes, and it was no boast or speaking from any kind of authority. More like looking over from my place in the gutter with a "Wow, mate. Fall here often?"

To sum up the writing depth in this game as you have is just unbelievably... okay then, yes, you obviously didn't play much. Otherwise, you'd have an understanding that your current concept of the plot / design is that of someone who didn't get past the first twist; you are still partway through Act 1 trying to judge the entire play from what you have seen of it.

You are invited to go back and properly look at this work of art. All aspects of it are top-notch for the use of engine.
That story? Depending on where you are it can make changes to the entire combat system.

And also hell yeah, my story's simple, but no one cares for the story of my game. I'm making it simple. Super simple for the lack of time I have to work on it due to my job which is my priority, and the fact that it's my first game which I do everything besides the art.
Spoilers was the literal reason why you said you couldn't post screenshot updates. This kind of dodgy dev behavior is probably why your Patreon seems astonishingly small. I mean, if they can't trust you to post something when you said you were going to, on the due date, without an excuse that seems pulled out of thin air with "please understand" that puts an expectation of the consumer to be mollified by that bad excuse, then why should they subscribe to that. I speak as a patron of several here. Ergo, I offered my opinion to your opinion.

One consumer to another, right?
 
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To sum up the writing depth in this game as you have is just unbelievably... okay then, yes, you obviously didn't play much. Otherwise, you'd have an understanding that your current concept of the plot is that of someone who didn't get past the first twist; you are still in Act 1 trying to judge the entire play from what you have seen of it.

You are invited to go back and properly look at this work of art. All aspects of it are top-notch for the use of engine.
I mean...
I'm spoiled enough to know about the depth of the narrative tho.

MC was a villain trying to get immortality and split his soul yadayada.
No extra context changes anything about what I said prior.
In fact it's that extra context that I think shouldn't change your perception of the events that happen in the game which is my original statement.
Spoilers was the literal reason why you said you couldn't post screenshot updates. This kind of dodgy dev behavior is why you probably can't get your Patreon to take off. I mean, if they can't trust you to post something when you said you were going to, on the due date, without an excuse that seems pulled out of thin air with "please understand" that puts an expectation of the consumer to be mollified by that bad excuse, then why should they subscribe to that. I speak as a patron of several here. Ergo, I offered my opinion to your opinion.

One consumer to another, right?
Narrative spoilers aren't the only kind of spoilers.
The reason I can't get my Patreon to take off is cause I haven't updated it in a while due to a large amount of factors regarding my personal life.

If I was able to work at the speed I was when I started I could've finished 3 sex machines by now.

But like... that's got nothing to do with the conversation here. Don't mind if you post in Sex Machine though.
 

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The official translator popped up on the official Discord today. I've posted their messages (and the messages they were replying to) below.


is because there's a ton of pixiv mod but no one TL-ing it
I'm hoping to take a look at them but won't be doing so at the very least until the expansion work is done (and no, can't comment on current status right now, sorry)

i mean if hes the translator he should know if hes close to finishing? Why would it be a problem to release an estimated date (is there so much text in that expansion compared to the base game?)? Anyways its not my intention to be an a**hole, i know that if he's not allowed to release info there's nothing he can do but this whole thing just seems so weird to me

also, piracy is very predominant in the western market: the longer it takes the higher the chance for fan translation to pop up (hence a decrease in possible profit margins)
I do the script, but in trying to get a completed product, I'm not the only one involved (the fancy word-art to introduce each area, is not me, for example). Also, there's an editing process to make sure that the drafts are up to snuff. So it's not just as simple as going "I've translated x%", or even releasing bits at a time, like with a fan translation.

Plus, if I say I'm at a certain point, it can put other people on the spot. Or if I then find out something needs a re-write, it still does, even though I'm the one who ends up needing to do the work, it might look like someone else is holding things up. Or the reverse, if I say "I'm still working on x" for a while and then suddenly stop, people still might end up making assumptions anyway. So since I've never been asked to speak in an official capacity, I don't, out of that respect.

I know that's not a very fun answer, and I'm a GREAT. BIG. NERD. when it comes to this stuff so believe me part of me would like to, but it's not my place when it could even imply a commitment. I only mentioned the previous date because that was on SQDT's ci-en page. Obviously plans have had to change since then, but if I mouth off about stuff that could just make things worse.
Tldr: English translation is still being worked on, no ETA.
 
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I mean...
I'm spoiled enough to know about the depth of the narrative tho.

MC was a villain trying to get immortality and split his soul yadayada.
No extra context changes anything about what I said prior.
In fact it's that extra context that I think shouldn't change your perception of the events that happen in the game which is my original statement.

Narrative spoilers aren't the only kind of spoilers.
It is poignant in that as with all traditional encounters with OG succubi, anything that starts with a Succubus ends in Death, even dreams. Especially by dreams. The Drifters alone should have shown that there are FAR more than just succubi here, and that's as much as I'll get into without spoiler tags, because someone already put forth that effort and it seems to have not helped to convey the writing and design depth that could have people go on sizeable posts about its merits.

Welp, in other news, Game Developer Shocked to Discover Succubus Game has Actual Succubi :|
 

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It is poignant in that as with all traditional encounters with OG succubi, anything that starts with a Succubus ends in Death, even dreams. Especially by dreams. The Drifters alone should have shown that there are FAR more than just succubi here, and that's as much as I'll get into without spoiler tags, because someone already put forth that effort and it seems to have not helped to convey the writing and design depth that could have people go on sizeable posts about its merits.

Welp, in other news, Game Developer Shocked to Discover Succubus Game has Actual Succubi :|
First, writers have creative license to do whatever they want with their characters. If this game had OG succubi they wouldn't actually be attractive.
Second, I wasn't disputing any of that.

None of what you just said contradicts anything I originally stated.
 
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