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Kyunbix

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Mar 24, 2018
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He's a man with big ideas, poor project management skills, and an inability to read the room. I'm saying this as someone who doesn't dislike the guy, and I love Succubus Covenant.
Yeah, he has huge ambitions, and a lot of ideas. Unfortunately, his Project Management Skills are poor, and he can't read the room announcing a side project while people wait for a really long time for chapter 5 to release. I love SC, I really do love the game, and I know Zion is trying his best, but jeez. This guy really needs to learn how to Manage his Projects, so people won't need to wait for so long.
 

aggs

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Feb 25, 2023
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From what I understand, the slowdown has nothing to do with the artists. In fact the art is one of the first things that gets finished, and that's true for a lot of projects. The reasons the updates have slowed down completely falls on Zion and finishing the actual game. To put in perspective:

Side Dungeons and Summer Areas were finished on - 08/09/23
Winter Area was finished on - 08/22/23
Autumn Area was finished on - 09-08-23

and that's it. Since then he's announced their other side project they're working on. I truly don't think he understands how all of this looks. It may not compute with his mind that Chapter 5 has taken the longest to come out by a considerable margin, and his fans and supporters have been waiting a long time. He should not be talking about working on side projects, not at this stage. He should be hyper focused on getting Chapter 5 done.

He's a man with big ideas, poor project management skills, and an inability to read the room. I'm saying this as someone who doesn't dislike the guy, and I love Succubus Covenant.

There are many reasons for the massive slowdowns we've seen in the production of SC. Lack of creativity, side projects, overburned, lack of artists and many more. But like it or not the most logical reason you can find is laziness. I've said that before and my comment got deleted for some reason, but dude has a steady income and his incompetence doesn't affect in any way his income. His patreon fans seem loyal enough, they do not care about the production time as long as they receive their promised game. Zion is a business mastermind. Works whenever he likes and feeds to the fans the dumbest excuses to ever exist when he doesn't meet his deadline. The demand is big and he abuses that to the limit. 2 years for a single chapter. It's nothing but laziness. The only single reason is laziness, literally nothing else.
 

HandyCapped

Newbie
May 18, 2020
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Am I retarded? After exhausting every location, every dialogue, every lootable item et al., I still don't plain and simple have the necessary stats to kill the second Vivid Forest Succubus. The only two other options are to either get smushed by the tier 1 demonic ruin ogres, or getting smashed by the Elven ruin ents. Three enemies to find, all with stats that make progress impossible. Every other location is cut off, save the third shade ruin, which surprisingly, also is an unsurvivable death trap, this time without the chance to cheese by the enemies (which the last two had, ironically without any need for it). Not like there is something to the strategy that I'm missing, as there isn't any yet to be found. Attack and make sure you have your chastity belt gauntlet's light on for succubi.

The whole game was just three hours of prologue and mindless dicking around into a softlock city? There has to be something that I'm missing.
 

fanboi

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Apr 19, 2018
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Am I retarded? After exhausting every location, every dialogue, every lootable item et al., I still don't plain and simple have the necessary stats to kill the second Vivid Forest Succubus. The only two other options are to either get smushed by the tier 1 demonic ruin ogres, or getting smashed by the Elven ruin ents. Three enemies to find, all with stats that make progress impossible. Every other location is cut off, save the third shade ruin, which surprisingly, also is an unsurvivable death trap, this time without the chance to cheese by the enemies (which the last two had, ironically without any need for it). Not like there is something to the strategy that I'm missing, as there isn't any yet to be found. Attack and make sure you have your chastity belt gauntlet's light on for succubi.

The whole game was just three hours of prologue and mindless dicking around into a softlock city? There has to be something that I'm missing.
Did you equip the items you found? You got every item, so you should easily have good enough stats with the best available items equipped to beat all the succubi.
 

HandyCapped

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May 18, 2020
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Did you equip the items you found? You got every item, so you should easily have good enough stats with the best available items equipped to beat all the succubi.
I did. The sleep fragment does nothing, as the succubus doesn't use any sleep ailments (unlike what the earlier discussion implied...). Nor paralysis, so that slot is wasted in the fight. I also have a single piece of equipment for every slot. Haven't found more or less and suspect that that's by design. I have them all equipped, but some of them are quite literally worthless. The mana item gives a whole single point of mana. Out of a hundred (and with the cheapest spell costing 30). Seriously? Fish gives more,all of which I have gathered, cooked and eaten along the meat for the bonus stats (again, one or two points of stats per nom, but those are stacking). All of the other items also give a single stat point of their ilk (+1 def, +1 atk and so on) and while not totally useless, are a far cry from actually changing the outcome.

Are they supposed to be that useless? Also with that in mind, is there supposed to be any kind of exp/level mechanic included or is it all just equipment and story based progression?
 

fanboi

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Apr 19, 2018
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There's no EXP, dev decided that he would use items instead. I'm not sure what items you need at the point in the game you're talking about since I haven't played that for a long time, but all I know is I explored all the areas and equipped the new equipment when I got it and had no problems. Use the anti-seduction thing before battle and you should be able to win every time with the equipment you pick up.
 

Frosthugger

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Dec 28, 2017
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SS included for proof.
use iron will before a fight and every time during the fight when its duration is down to 1. Best not use buff skills (other than iron will) during fights, they are shit. Just attack/magic and iron will. Possibly health/mana items if the fight is really close. When you get the lightning spell, use that/ Always equip new runes and the crown/diadem whatever thing you will eventually get out of the ruins. When you get the lightning spell, use that - if you move first, it will stun the enemy.
You can use iron will in exploration mode by going into skills, it will be acive at combat start. Never let this run out unless you want to be smushed by the lady.
 

Kyunbix

Newbie
Mar 24, 2018
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SS included for proof.
Well, use Iron will before the fight. Also attack her, and when you are low on hp, use healing items (You should have some I think, and if not then if I remember correctly, you can buy them on the beach). If it's the second succubi, then she should be quite easy. The only succubi I think is hard to fight is the first General, it was the only one I actually had to make the strat for.
 

KFC Pork

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Aug 7, 2023
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Yeah, he has huge ambitions, and a lot of ideas. Unfortunately, his Project Management Skills are poor, and he can't read the room announcing a side project while people wait for a really long time for chapter 5 to release. I love SC, I really do love the game, and I know Zion is trying his best, but jeez. This guy really needs to learn how to Manage his Projects, so people won't need to wait for so long.
And work more harder u dont need a months or more to do management . He is just lazy asf and greedy at this point.
He see CH 5 big chapter as a opportunity to milk more. Instead of release ch5 like rest chapters (6months per 1ch) then regain trust and faith. But he choose the milking way again.
He just shown it is possible to finish pretty big map in two weeks (actually every one can do this in les than 2days) we dont need to prove zion is scamming annumore. zion prove it by himself.
 

Hardtime

New Member
Jan 1, 2018
11
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I have no idea why but quests just won't show up in my journal. I've found two other people in this thread asking about this and both got ignored. One was told it happens with Joiplay but I don't use that. It makes the game basically impossible to play since there is hardly any info on guides etc online to go after instead.
 

Succubus Hunter

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May 19, 2020
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Well, use Iron will before the fight. Also attack her, and when you are low on hp, use healing items (You should have some I think, and if not then if I remember correctly, you can buy them on the beach). If it's the second succubi, then she should be quite easy. The only succubi I think is hard to fight is the first General, it was the only one I actually had to make the strat for.
Succubus = singular

Succubi = Plural
 

HandyCapped

Newbie
May 18, 2020
68
40
use iron will before a fight and every time during the fight when its duration is down to 1. Best not use buff skills (other than iron will) during fights, they are shit. Just attack/magic and iron will. Possibly health/mana items if the fight is really close. When you get the lightning spell, use that/ Always equip new runes and the crown/diadem whatever thing you will eventually get out of the ruins. When you get the lightning spell, use that - if you move first, it will stun the enemy.
You can use iron will in exploration mode by going into skills, it will be acive at combat start. Never let this run out unless you want to be smushed by the lady.
While I always appreciate help, but half of that is something I already said I did, while the other half is something I most likely get farther in the game after the softlock point. Not much to be gotten out of.

I had missed that you can use items mid-fight, as the option is hidden below the guard as the only scrollable option in the UI... Well, not sure this game is worth it, so I'm probably going to count the hours of infodump as a sunk cost and nope out. That consumable item spam requirement part is probably a good thing to paste every now and then on this forums for other prospective players, though. Nice catch on that one!
 

Frosthugger

Member
Dec 28, 2017
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While I always appreciate help, but half of that is something I already said I did, while the other half is something I most likely get farther in the game after the softlock point. Not much to be gotten out of.

I had missed that you can use items mid-fight, as the option is hidden below the guard as the only scrollable option in the UI... Well, not sure this game is worth it, so I'm probably going to count the hours of infodump as a sunk cost and nope out. That consumable item spam requirement part is probably a good thing to paste every now and then on this forums for other prospective players, though. Nice catch on that one!
I haven't really used consumable items in fights later on, but it might have been necesary early, I don't remember. If you want to nope out of the game, you could download someone else's saves, there should be a few packs in this thread where you have a save just before a fight with each succubus.
 

yeahboi84

Newbie
Aug 20, 2023
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the spring area is done and know Zion is working on the Dutchess.
considering that update before that was almost a month ago and there is still the lore and testing that's needs to be done, I would not get any hopes up for Ch 5 anytime soon.
 
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KKmonster

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May 10, 2017
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And work more harder u dont need a months or more to do management . He is just lazy asf and greedy at this point.
He see CH 5 big chapter as a opportunity to milk more. Instead of release ch5 like rest chapters (6months per 1ch) then regain trust and faith. But he choose the milking way again.
He just shown it is possible to finish pretty big map in two weeks (actually every one can do this in les than 2days) we dont need to prove zion is scamming annumore. zion prove it by himself.
Agree
 
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