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I don’t think the truck sized plot holes help.

Kate kicks you out, my response would have been, ‘no worries, I’m off to chat with your board about why I was kicked out. One of your teachers forced me to a strip club while I was underage and got me drunk. Where his friend, a policewoman gave me an envelope full of money and paid for a lap dance and more drinks and watched me have sex with a stripper. Then I nearly pissed on some flowers.’

I think her summer school program is finished. :ROFLMAO:
Exactly. I pretty much said that to the screen when she told me... together with a "fuck you". :ROFLMAO:
The reason Ms.Hill is sending him home and calling him a bad influence is just an excuse. The truth is Ms.Hill is getting too close to MC romantically, and doesn't want to cross the line.

So while it is true, MC is not a blank slate, the reason of sending us home is not becuase of being a bad influence, but because she is catching feelings for us.
But she does this even if you don't romance her. That's the problem. The scenes showing her romantic feelings to the MC only show if you try to seduce her, but she will always send you home.
 

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I don’t think the truck sized plot holes help.

Kate kicks you out, my response would have been, ‘no worries, I’m off to chat with your board about why I was kicked out. One of your teachers forced me to a strip club while I was underage and got me drunk. Where his friend, a policewoman gave me an envelope full of money and paid for a lap dance and more drinks and watched me have sex with a stripper. Then I nearly pissed on some flowers.’

I think her summer school program is finished. :ROFLMAO:
I'm glad I'm not the only one that was scratching my head at Kate kicking him out. Granted, the only way I'm really enjoying this is turning my brain off and just accepting AVN logic in the hopes that the pretty renders will eventually tell a decent story. I guess I'm just disappointed this is trying to be more ambitious than slice of life at art camp. The LIs look great and while I don't care for the strip club/corrupt cop story, it's clearly the story the devs are interested in telling so I'll just have to groan and hope Sophie and Bree's content makes up for it.
 

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I'm glad I'm not the only one that was scratching my head at Kate kicking him out. Granted, the only way I'm really enjoying this is turning my brain off and just accepting AVN logic in the hopes that the pretty renders will eventually tell a decent story. I guess I'm just disappointed this is trying to be more ambitious than slice of life at art camp. The LIs look great and while I don't care for the strip club/corrupt cop story, it's clearly the story the devs are interested in telling so I'll just have to groan and hope Sophie and Bree's content makes up for it.
Same here. I'm also only really interested in the art camp stuff so the rest feel a bit annoying sometimes. And it's unfortunate that the main story seems to assume you play the character in a certain way. I prefer to play single routes but while the game allows you to play that way, the main story doesn't acknowledge it. It assumes that you play a fuckboy troublemaker.
I guess I can understand that it they have to do it that way to not have too much work making the main scenes, it becomes a bit annoying.
 

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But she does this even if you don't romance her. That's the problem. The scenes showing her romantic feelings to the MC only show if you try to seduce her, but she will always send you home.
But just because we don't romance her, doesn't mean the feeling aren't there for her. We can avoid Mia, but she still likes us. The other girls will find you interesting and attractive whether you pursue them or not. You can only control MC, but not the girls.

I will agree the kick out storyline is not my favorite, but I am willing to give it time and see how it plays out.
 

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But just because we don't romance her, doesn't mean the feeling aren't there for her. We can avoid Mia, but she still likes us. The other girls will find you interesting and attractive whether you pursue them or not. You can only control MC, but not the girls.
True, but the others show their interest no matter what (except for maybe Eve), Ms. Hill doesn't. Unless you try to seduce her, she shows no sign of being interested.
 
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So i just replayed the part when we interact with her after the club and in the morning.

When she said "it's not just that" talking about MC peeing on the flowerbed. She say it's also because of everything and his behaviour : referring IMO to JUST last night (99% sure) not the rest of the day. No matter what you do MC comment on her tits after getting busted and call her "mommy" at least once and other stuff (yes it's stupid stuff you do when drunk but still), + the fact that his is drunk when it is clearly forbidden ( this one Miller have nothing to do with btw) and peeing on the flowers, i think it can safely be called bad behaviour and a normal justification for expulsion even with the lessening circumstances of a "teacher" bringing MC to a stripclub . And as i said earlier for me, MC is totally responsible (and old enough) for accepting to follow Miller to the club the second time.

edit: You aslo have to take in consideration the Caitlynn barely know MC and it's understandable that she is worried it could get worst if she let him stay.

edit: Also for the ones who want MC to tell "fuck off " to her. Why ? She defo not deserve that. Why would you try to be an asshole and make troubles for her for whatever stupid stuff MC and Miller are doing/have done? Even if, Mc seems like a non-confrontational "nice dude " it would be out of character no?
 
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So i just replayed the part when we interact with her after the club and in the morning.

When she said "it's not just that" talking about MC peeing on the flowerbed. She say it's also because of everything and his behaviour : referring IMO to JUST last night (99% sure) not the rest of the day. No matter what you do MC comment on her tits after getting busted and call her "mommy" at least once and other stuff (yes it's stupid stuff you do when drunk but still), + the fact that his is drunk when it is clearly forbidden ( this one Miller have nothing to do with btw) and peeing on the flowers, i think it can safely be called bad behaviour and a normal justification for expulsion even with the lessening circumstances of a "teacher" bringing MC to a stripclub . And as i said earlier for me, MC is totally responsible (and old enough) for accepting to follow Miller to the club the second time.
Miller tells him "Let's go.", not "Can you come with me". And he's the MCs teacher.

Ms. Hill also says "I just can't have you around the other students. You're a bad influence, especially on the girls..." as well as accusing the MC of gambling and that he did "plenty of other things to be sent home", so obviously it's not just drinking.
Then we have the whole "keep it quiet and don't tell anybody" thing.
And she says that Mike "doesn't seem to be a troublemaker. Unlike you...".

They also made it clear that drinking was not against the camp rules, just against the law. And that he never actually peed on the flowers.
 

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Damn, I just discovered this one. And what a surprise. The render is good, the writing is great, the gimmicks and mechanics are awesome, and most importantly, all the models are stunning.

I really hope this one doesn't suffer from unhealthy development time, or worse, getting rushed and/or abandoned.

Oh, and I had a sense that Bree and Sophie were supposed to be twins or something? Their model is really similar.
 

Meabe37

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Ms. Hill also says "I just can't have you around the other students. You're a bad influence, especially on the girls..."
I have the convo in front of me RN, it's clearly referring to his drunk behaviour and comportment of last Night only.

edit: What would even be earlier in the day for her to be mad about? There is nothing even if you play more of a bad boy (which the MC isn't no matter what). She dosn't mention anything else than him being drunk, go to a stripclub past curfew, peeing on the flowerbed and saying unacceptable things to her ( like " nice tits").
 

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I have the convo in front of me RN, it's clearly referring to his drunk behaviour and comportment of last Night only.
But how was he a bad influence on the girls? They never even saw him drunk. Considering he's not allowed to tell anybody, nobody even knows about it. It makes no sense.

I love this game, but it's obvious that the scene was written with one type of character in mind. The fact that it doesn't changed depending on your chosen behavior in the game (except for if you flirt with Ms. Hill) also tells that.
 
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Damn, I just discovered this one. And what a surprise. The render is good, the writing is great, the gimmicks and mechanics are awesome, and most importantly, all the models are stunning.

I really hope this one doesn't suffer from unhealthy development time, or worse, getting rushed and/or abandoned.

Oh, and I had a sense that Bree and Sophie were supposed to be twins or something? Their model is really similar.
It's definitely not a rushed game. Long development, unfortunately, and few lewd scenes so far, but well worth it IMO.
 

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What do you even mean by chosen behaviour? No matter what you choose to say or who you choose to flirt with it doesn’t change anything of MC personality or behaviours. I don't think there is any choice that make the MC being an ass or do "bad things" (except being a liar here and there but there is no way she could know about that). Again Cait dosn't know MC. It's fair to assume he is gonna be a" bad influence" on the others if he do that on the first day. Sure she overreact a bit, it's not that bad ( a little bit but you know) and it's the first time, maybe a conversation and a "warning" would have been enough, i can agree on that. But at the same time i don't and can't blame Kate for it.
 

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the last time i played was around 0.3 update

eeeerm
dafuq is going on?
playing the erand boy for miller and hill?
what is this ? correction camp?
forced to go with miller all the time - to the strip club too? really?
whats the point?
miller needs a high five - with a brick - in the face imo
if he wants a son to teach and care, he should make his own
and this idiot of "best-bro" ..
some sweet girls and nice renders alone doesnt make a good game ...
You are roleplaying a young man under the guard of adults as art student so it makes sense they have a slight "authority" over you and help themselves to ask you "things". But I mean errand boy, correction camp... Miller gave you the opportunity to meet new girls at a strip club away from an art camp with other hot girls, in what world do you see this as a painful stay.
 

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What do you even mean by chosen behaviour? No matter what you choose to say or who you choose to flirt with it doesn’t change anything of MC personality or behaviours. I don't think there is any choice that make the MC being an ass or do "bad things" (except being a liar here and there but there is no way she could know about that). Again Cait dosn't know MC. It's fair to assume he is gonna be a" bad influence" on the others if he do that on the first day. Sure she overreact a bit, it's not that bad ( a little bit but you know) and it's the first time, maybe a conversation and a "warning" would have been enough, i can agree on that. But at the same time i don't and can't blame Kate for it.
There are some choices. Like telling her it's her job to clean, not answering when she says something, chose bad answers on the form (deep in pussy, spend free time masturbating or similar), saying you don't care to know about Miller, having a negative attitude when she asks about how you like the camp, telling her you're only there to get laid, being rude when she offers you a juice pack, say "no" when she asks you to help Miller with the lights, don't believe her when she says she doesn't drink much, things like that. Saying you are there to get laid, as an example, opens up the choice to be more inappropriate.
 
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There are some choices. Like telling her it's her job to clean, not answering when she says something, chose bad answers on the form (deep in pussy, spend free time masturbating or similar), saying you don't care to know about Miller, having a negative attitude when she asks about how you like the camp, telling her you're only there to get laid, being rude when she offers you a juice pack, say "no" when she asks you to help Miller with the lights, don't believe her when she says she doesn't drink much, things like that. Saying you are there to get laid, as an example, opens up the choice to be more inappropriate.
Alright, yeah, completely forgot about all of that. I'm too nice probably to choose those things lol. Still of how the conversation go and what's said i still believe that she only referring to the night events. The devs aren't bad enough to make this kinda of mistake imo, they would have make the necessary variations in this case if it was needed.
 
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And it's unfortunate that the main story seems to assume you play the character in a certain way. I prefer to play single routes but while the game allows you to play that way, the main story doesn't acknowledge it. It assumes that you play a fuckboy troublemaker.
the game from your signatures also does the same thing with the ep8 'cliffhanger'
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